Media Create Sales: Week 44, 2013 (Oct 28 - Nov 03)

Jan 3, 2012
4,307
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650
Majorca - Spain
Huh; do you have Yellow/Crystal/Emerald/Platinum final numbers? I'm curious to see how B2W2 has compared to the iterations more similar to it.
[NGB] Pokémon Yellow (Nintendo) {1998.09.12} - 851.091 / 2.294.065
[NGB] Pokémon Crystal (Nintendo) {2000.12.14} - 707.580 / 1.871.307
[GBA] Pokémon Emerald (Pokémon Co.) {2004.09.16} - 643.987 / 2.197.017
[NDS] Pokémon Platinum (Pokémon Co.) {2008.09.13} - 967.675 / 2.603.358

[NDS] Pokémon Black 2 / White 2 (Pokémon Co.) {2012.06.23} - 1.618.621 / 2.990.161
 
May 24, 2012
18,812
119
500
Dengeki Weekly Software Highlights:

Pokemon X won first place for 4 consecutive weeks with 138K units sold to consumers this week.

  • 74K units of Pokemon X (1.529 million LTD)
  • 64K units of Pokemon Y (1.434 million LTD)

Best-selling 3DS games:

  • Animal Crossing: New Leaf - 3.4 million LTD
  • Pokemon X + Y - 2.963 million (first four weeks LTD)
  • Monster Hunter 4 - 2.93 million LTD

Wii Party U took second place with 71K units.

  • About 50% of Wii Party U's 70,556 sales came from the Wii U Family Premium Set hardware bundles (¥32,800 to ¥34,800, Black or White)
  • Wii U sold 38,904 this week, so the bundle deals made up the vast majority of its weekly sales (around 95% bundle ratio)
  • Original Wii Party performance: 2.35 million LTD (sold to Japanese consumers). Because of this, pay close attention to Wii Party U performance to see if it has legs like its predecessor

The debut game Little Battlers eXperience: Wars from Level-5 was also in the Top 5 software sold this week.

  • First week sell-through percentage was 55%
  • With a sell-through figure of 47,044, we can assume Little Battlers eXperience: Wars had ~85,500 initial shipments to retailers


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[B]DENGEKI TOP 50 SOFTWARE SALES
Week 44, 2013 (Oct 28 - Nov 03)[/B]

[U][B]RANK/L.WK	TITLE								PUBLISHER		RELEASE		SALES	LTD		WK. CHANGE[/B][/U]
1/1	3DS	Pokémon X							Pokémon Co.		13/10/12	74,076	1,529,397	-41%
[b]2/-	Wii U	Wii Party U							Nintendo		13/10/31	70,556	70,556[/b]	
3/2	3DS	Pokémon Y							Pokémon Co.		13/10/12	64,141	1,433,875	-40%
4/3	PS3	Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013				Konami			13/10/24	58,430	142,169		-30%
[b]5/-	3DS	Little Battlers eXperience: Wars				Level 5			13/10/31	47,044	47,044[/b]	
6/5	3DS	Monster Hunter 4						Capcom			13/09/14	46,524	2,932,783	-27%
7/7	PSP	Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013				Konami			13/10/24	34,306	72,673		-11%
[b]8/-	Vita	Gundam Breaker							Bandai Namco Games	13/10/31	33,650	33,650[/b]	
9/71	Wii U	New Super Mario Bros. U						Nintendo		12/12/08	32,078	602,216	
[b]10/-	Vita	Chou Tsugitsugimono Game Neptune Re:Birth1			Compile Heart		13/10/31	31,507	31,507[/b]	
11/6	PS3	Grand Theft Auto V						Rockstar Games		13/10/10	30,582	457,385		-35%
[b]12/-	PS3	Tears to Tiara II: Haou no Matsuei				Aqua Plus		13/10/31	24,647	24,647[/b]	
13/8	Vita	Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013				Konami			13/10/24	14,682	39,026		-40%
14/10	3DS	Sentouchuu: Densetsu no Shinobi no Survival Battle!		Bandai Namco Games	13/10/17	13,394	79,201		-29%
15/4	PS3	BlazBlue: Chronophantasma					Arc System Works	13/10/24	11,897	89,957		-85%
16/18	3DS	Animal Crossing: New Leaf 					Nintendo		12/11/08	5,506	3,402,958	-4%
[b]17/-	PSP	Shinsouhan Heart no Kuni no Alice: Wonderful Wonder World	QuinRose		13/10/31	5,189	5,189[/b]	
18/15	3DS	Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life				Bandai Namco Games	13/08/01	5,067	312,620		-17%
19/20	3DS	Friend Collection: New Life					Nintendo		13/04/18	4,865	1,485,425	0%
[b]20/-	PSP	Seishun Hajime Mashita!						Honeybee		13/10/31	4,622	4,622[/b]	
21/9	PSP	Diabolik Lovers: More, Blood					Idea Factory		13/10/24	4,050	25,323		-81%
22/12	PS3	FIFA 14								Electronic Arts		13/10/17	3,976	32,131		-44%
[b]23/-	PSP	Hentai Ouji to Warawanai Neko.					C-Territory		13/10/31	3,753	3,753[/b]	
24/17	PS3	Tales of Symphonia: Unisonant Pack				Bandai Namco Games	13/10/10	3,106	101,411		-46%
25/14	PS3	Soccer Tsuku: Pro Soccer Club o Tsukurou!			Sega			13/10/10	2,922	100,881		-55%
26/25	3DS	Youkai Watch							Level 5			13/07/11	2,856	207,429		-12%
27/16	PS3	Beyond: Two Souls						SCE			13/10/17	2,841	28,858		-52%
28/19	Vita	Dangan-Ronpa 1-2: Reload					Spike Chunsoft		13/10/10	2,831	90,144		-47%
29/11	PSP	Kamigami no Itazura						Broccoli		13/10/24	2,830	16,643		-80%
30/27	3DS	Mario Kart 7							Nintendo		11/12/01	2,688	2,101,902	-2%
31/23	PS3	Fairy Fencer F							Compile Heart		13/10/10	2,544	58,243		-43%
32/29	3DS	New Super Mario Bros. 2						Nintendo		12/07/28	2,469	2,033,955	0%
33/21	PS3	Saint Seiya: Brave Soldiers					Bandai Namco Games	13/10/17	2,389	28,200		-48%
34/31	3DS	Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon					Nintendo		13/03/20	2,382	916,914		1%
35/28	3DS	Mario & Luigi: Dream Team					Nintendo		13/07/18	2,378	345,135		-10%
36/24	PS3	Warriors Orochi 3: Ultimate					Koei Tecmo		13/09/26	2,311	130,161		-31%
37/13	PS3	Samurai Warriors 2 with Xtreme Legends & Empires HD Version	Koei Tecmo		13/10/24	2,233	9,202		-68%
38/184	Vita	Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational (PlayStation Vita the Best)	SCE			13/10/10	2,072	3,126	
39/22	3DS	Sonic: Lost World						Sega			13/10/24	1,994	6,569		-56%
40/42	Wii U	The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD				Nintendo		13/09/26	1,961	45,193		32%
41/26	Vita	Soccer Tsuku: Pro Soccer Club o Tsukurou!			Sega			13/10/10	1,822	45,076		-38%
42/35	PS3	Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Real Reborn				Square Enix		13/08/27	1,750	235,271		-7%
43/40	3DS	Ace Attorney 5							Capcom			13/07/25	1,639	348,768		-1%
44/37	PS3	Armored Core: Verdict Day					From Software		13/09/26	1,483	87,682		-18%
45/39	Wii	Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition			Bandai Namco Games	12/11/29	1,465	566,447		-12%
46/30	PSP	J-League Pro Soccer Club! 8: Euro +				Sega			13/10/17	1,406	10,686		-43%
47/41	3DS	Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D					Nintendo		13/06/13	1,378	283,904		-9%
48/48	PSP	God Eater: Burst (PSP the Best Reprint)				Bandai Namco Games	13/06/06	1,361	34,200		15%
49/34	Vita	The Legend Of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki				Nihon Falcom		13/09/26	1,256	106,406		-35%
50/44	3DS	Kuma-Tomo							Bandai Namco Games	13/06/20	1,228	61,893		-9%
Top 50

3DS - 17
PS3 - 14
PSP - 8
PSV - 7
WIU - 3
WII - 1

New releases not present in the Top 50:
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[B][3DS] Starry Sky: In Winter 3D
[3DS] Starry Sky: In Winter 3D (Limited Edition)

[PSV] Naitei! Shuukatsu Kanzen Taisaku - ES - SPI - Mensetsu

[PS3] Mahjong Haoh: Kaikyu Battle 3
[PS3] Darkstalkers Resurrection (Best Price!)
[/B]

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[B]DENGEKI TOP 3 SOFTWARE SALES PER PLATFORM
Week 44, 2013 (Oct 28 - Nov 03)[/B]

[U][B]RANK	TITLE								PUBLISHER		RELEASE		SALES	LTD[/B][/U]

[B]PS3 Top 3[/B]
1	Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013				Konami			13/10/24	58,430	142,169
2	Grand Theft Auto V						Rockstar Games		13/10/10	30,582	457,385
[b]3	Tears to Tiara II: Haou no Matsuei				Aqua Plus		13/10/31	24,647	24,647[/b]

[B]PSV Top 3[/B]
[b]1	Gundam Breaker							Bandai Namco Games	13/10/31	33,650	33,650[/b]
[b]2	Chou Tsugitsugimono Game Neptune Re:Birth1			Compile Heart		13/10/31	31,507	31,507[/b]
3	Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013				Konami			13/10/24	14,682	39,026

[B]PSP Top 3[/B]
1	Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013				Konami			13/10/24	34,306	72,673
[b]2	Shinsouhan Heart no Kuni no Alice: Wonderful Wonder World	QuinRose		13/10/31	5,189	5,189[/b]
[b]3	Seishun Hajime Mashita!						Honeybee		13/10/31	4,622	4,622[/b]

[B]WIU Top 3[/B]
[b]1	Wii Party U							Nintendo		13/10/31	70,556	70,556[/b]
2	New Super Mario Bros. U						Nintendo		12/12/08	32,078	602,216
3	The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD				Nintendo		13/09/26	1,961	45,193

[B]WII Top 3[/B]
1	Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition			Bandai Namco Games	12/11/29	1,465	566,447
2	Mario Kart Wii							Nintendo		08/04/30	629	3,597,157
3	Super Smash Bros. Brawl						Nintendo		08/01/31	576	2,425,860

[B]3DS Top 3[/B]
1	Pokémon X							Pokémon Co.		13/10/12	74,076	1,529,397
2	Pokémon Y							Pokémon Co.		13/10/12	64,141	1,433,875
[b]3	Little Battlers eXperience: Wars				Level 5			13/10/31	47,044	47,044[/b]

[B]NDS Top 3[/B]
1	Pokémon Black 2							Pokémon Co.		12/06/23	261	1,624,574
2	Pokémon White 2							Pokémon Co.		12/06/23	233	1,421,880
3	Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Ultimate Hits)	Square Enix		10/03/04	218	191,839

[B]360 Top 3[/B]
1	Grand Theft Auto V						Rockstar Games		13/10/10	607	32,327
2	Minecraft: Xbox 360 Edition					Microsoft Studios	13/06/06	130	11,239
3	Armored Core: Verdict Day					From Software		13/09/26	93	6,042
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[B]DENGEKI TOTAL HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE SALES
Week 44, 2013 (Oct 28 - Nov 03)[/B]

[U][B]SYSTEM		SALES		SALES(%)	L.WEEK		L.WEEK(%)	FY 2013 SALES	FY 2013(%)	FY 2013(L.WK %)[/B][/U]

[B]SOFTWARE SALES:[/B]														
PS3		181,156		22.7%		290,301		34.0%		5,946,323	24.1%		24.2%
Vita		100,193		12.5%		49,013		5.7%		1,649,164	6.7%		6.5%
PSP		77,097		9.7%		98,250		11.5%		2,191,477	8.9%		8.9%
Wii U		111,556		14.0%		9,970		1.2%		800,916		3.2%		2.9%
Wii		9,294		1.2%		9,781		1.1%		568,102		2.3%		2.3%
3DS		313,736		39.3%		388,495		45.5%		12,991,310	52.7%		53.2%
DS		3,692		0.5%		3,907		0.5%		250,960		1.0%		1.0%
X360		1,929		0.2%		3,221		0.4%		247,867		1.0%		1.0%
Total		798,653		100.0%		852,938		100.0%		24,646,119	100.0%		100.0%
												
[B]HARDWARE SALES:[/B]														
PS3		10,263		6.1%		10,792		7.2%		372,162		9.6%		9.8%
Vita		26,396		15.8%		21,627		14.3%		470,597		12.2%		12.0%
PSP		3,828		2.3%		3,757		2.5%		176,967		4.6%		4.7%
Wii U		38,905		23.2%		2,484		1.6%		281,100		7.3%		6.6%
Wii		818		0.5%		653		0.4%		34,004		0.9%		0.9%
3DS LL		58,780		35.1%		73,019		48.4%		1,778,968	46.1%		46.6%
3DS		28,328		16.9%		38,385		25.4%		732,571		19.0%		19.1%
X360		256		0.2%		205		0.1%		10,925		0.3%		0.3%
Total		167,574		100.0%		150,922		100.0%		3,857,294	100.0%		100.0%

[B]*Note: FY 2013 refers to the period from April 2013 through March 2014[/B]
For the people who aren't regulars in Media Create threads:

What is Dengeki?
Dengeki is a website (it's also a brand of magazines / a book and manga imprint) that publishes sell-through Japanese sales data tracked by ASCII Research Institute, courtesy of ASCII Media Works, Inc. Every week they publish a nationwide snapshot of Japanese video game sales with the cooperation of more than 3,000 specialty game stores and convenience store chains all across Japan.

Why post Dengeki numbers when you have Media Create / Famitsu in the OP?
1) Unlike any other tracker, Dengeki gives us software numbers for Top 50 sales so we can track low-performing titles for a longer period of time
2) Unlike the others, Dengeki gives us total software sales for every platform, so we can track the relative health of platform software ecosystems
3) Dengeki is a respected sales tracker with 5 consecutive years of being reported each week in GAF threads

Is Dengeki less accurate than Media Create / Famitsu?
1) Dengeki is just as accurate as Media Create and Famitsu. Just because each tracker has quirks and natural deviations from the others doesn't mean one is inherently superior to the rest.
2) Dengeki is the tracker most unfamiliar to GAF / the public, and sometimes people confuse lack of dissemination with inaccuracy in sales figures
3) The amount of retail stores Dengeki tracks is similar to Media Create and Famitsu

Here are the differences between the trackers:

Media Create:
+ Nationwide Japanese sales data from Media Create Co., Ltd.
+ Tracks more than 3,000 retail stores / chains
+ Top 20 software sales with numbers
+ Top 50 software sales without numbers
+ Total hardware sales per platform
+ Sometimes presents sell-through figures
+ Releases first (at the same time as Famitsu)
+ Nintendo uses these numbers in their investor presentations
+ Distinguishes between 3DS and 3DS LL
- Does not track download cards
- Does not provide software sales figures past the Top 20

Famitsu:
+ Nationwide Japanese sales data from Enterbrain, Inc.
+ Tracks about 3,600 retail stores / chains
+ Top 30 software sales with numbers
+ Total hardware sales per platform
+ Sell-through ranges for all titles
+ Has the most historical data available for GAFfers
+ Tracks download cards
+ Releases first (at the same time as Media Create)
- Does not distinguish between 3DS and 3DS LL
- Does not report total software sales

Dengeki:
+ Nationwide Japanese sales data from ASCII Research Institute.
+ Tracks more than 3,000 retail stores / chains
+ Top 50 software sales with numbers
+ Top 3 software sales per platform
+ Total software sales per platform
+ Total hardware sales per platform
+ Sell-through figures for a few titles
+ Distinguishes between 3DS and 3DS LL
- Inconsistent data reporting over the years
- Does not track download cards
- Releases nearly 24 hours after Media Create / Famitsu

Dengeki Spreadsheet Archive
http://bit.ly/16xq86v

Dengeki Historical Sales Archive
2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | 2013
(A very special thanks to Road for making this archive possible)

Last Week's Sales Figures (Week 43, 2013, Oct 21 - Oct 27)
 
Jan 10, 2013
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2
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that WiiU bump, but i reckon its not gonna hold for long

And Vita still holding that 25k, wonder how its gonna perform once god eater hits, especially with the god eater 2 bundle and VitaTV release
 
Aug 10, 2012
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Media Create 

06./00. [WIU] Wii Party U <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.10.31} (¥4.935) - 37.371 / NEW
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Famitsu 

02./00. [WIU] Wii Party U # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.10.31} (¥4.935) - 79.715 / NEW <40-60%> 
06./00. [WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} (¥5.985) - 38.936 / 595.161 <80-100%>
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Dengeki 

2/-	Wii U	Wii Party U							Nintendo		13/10/31	70,556	70,556	
9/71	Wii U	New Super Mario Bros. U						Nintendo		12/12/08	32,078	602,216
MC is slacking.
 
Jun 7, 2013
3,399
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0
Nintendo needs to be working on New Super Hotcakes U 3D.

I just don't see it holding any momentum next week. Expecting under 20k.

When do we get some pictures of lines for VitaTV? Just one person will be twice the number for the 2000 revision.
 

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I just remembered there's the Monster Hunter 4 3DS bundle coming out today. Probably won't have much of an impact, but that's at least one thing to look forward before next week's charts.
 
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That's pretty disappointing for Tears to Tiara II, I thought the demo was pretty decent and it deserved to do a bit better than that
The fanbase is probably annoyed that it isn't originally a PC hentai game like the first one.

Also, why is Danball Senki not dead yet? You disappoint me Japan.
 

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Marvelous AQL earning's presentation: pdf.irpocket.com/C7844/GpH7/Ge6n/Awv7.pdf

Valhalla Knights 3 (Vita) shipment: 82k.

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{2008-07-17} [PS3] Tears to Tiara: Kakan no Daichi - 34.376 / 55.415
{2009-07-16} [PS3] Tears to Tiara: Kakan no Daichi [AquaPrice 2800] - 2.000 / 10.728
{2010-11-25} [PSP] Tears to Tiara: Kakan no Daichi Portable - 6.045 / 12.895
{2009-09-17} [PS3] Tears to Tiara Gaiden: Avalon no Nazo - 16.469 / 33.512
{2010-12-16} [PSP] Tears to Tiara Gaiden: Avalon no Nazo Portable - ? / 10.134
{2013-10-31} [PS3] Tears to Tiara II: Haou no Matsuei - 24.621 / NEW

This title is the winner of this week, what an impressive second week hold!

For example, the PS3 and PS Vita versions of Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 have already outsold their previous entry. The cheaper price probably helped a lot, and maybe the release date (October instead of July)? I don't know, I'm not into Baseball.

Second week for 2013 edition vs lifetime sales for 2012 edition:

[PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 (Konami) {2013.10.24} - 60.157 / 144.260
[PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2012 (Konami) {2012.07.19} - 134.431

[PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 (Konami) {2013.10.24} - 32.139 / 70.121
[PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2012 (Konami) {2012.07.19} - 82.791

[PSV] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 (Konami) {2013.10.24} - 13.339 / 35.735
[PSV] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2012 (Konami) {2012.07.19} - 32.765
Tsutaya mentioned Japan Series, which happened last week.


07./05. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2013.10.10} (¥7.770) - 33.929 / 471.522 <80-100%> (-31%)
Another great hold. Grand Theft Auto V was expected to be big, but not that big. Usually a title like this would be more front-loaded. This game is having strong legs in addition with a very high first week sales.
It's already over Dragon's Dogma last known total: 470.141 (Famitsu).



Still tracking ahead of Yakuza 5 (Media Create):

 
Mar 17, 2010
1,942
0
0
Japanese 3rd party support is moving towards smartphones and Wii U and Vita are the two platforms to best catch ports from that sector. As we can see from L5's strategy most of those smartphone games can (and will) easily be ported to all traditional game devices but U and Vita are the ones that come equipped with both a touchscreen and gyro.

L5 are leading the way for smartphone games with console appeal anyway, DQ9 had perfect touch controls for an RPG (I wonder why SE doesn't use that control scheme for 1~8) and Layton works perfectly well on smartphones too.
I dont know if it will become a trend, but wiiu already got a port of an smartphone game in togabito no senritsu. Which is a damn fine game, i must say. The problem with that approach is that those companies are only going to do the minimum and release on the eshop, with no changes whatsoever, so, wiiu retails presence is not going to get much different than it is now because of it, nor it is going to be a huge changer, since theres already cheaper ways to play those games.

That is, if the companies start to port their games, right.

And looks like Mario advertising already started. Maybe that will help the system to stay above awful levels. Also, zelda got an up of 32÷. Its nice. It shows some people waited on it, unfortunately, looks like this is the only game that got a bump.
 
Aug 12, 2012
1,088
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I wonder if people on this board are too caught up in games when discussing sales. It seems to me image and hype are the bigger factor. How much is Nintendo advertising in Japan? I just walked out of a Best Buy. The Wii U section is appealing with its selection of games, bundles and prices, but of course it was barren. On the way out I saw a dad buying 3 (yes 3) PS3s, and someone else buying a 360 game. I think Nintendo needs a big marketing push that makes the Wii U more desirable to the 18+ audience that Sony and Microsoft have, because at the moment people don't even seem to care or know that it exists.
 
Apr 15, 2010
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I wonder if people on this board are too caught up in games when discussing sales. It seems to me image and hype are the bigger factor. How much is Nintendo advertising in Japan? I just walked out of a Best Buy. The Wii U section is appealing with its selection of games, bundles and prices, but of course it was barren. On the way out I saw a dad buying 3 (yes 3) PS3s, and someone else buying a 360 game. I think Nintendo needs a big marketing push that makes the Wii U more desirable to the 18+ audience that Sony and Microsoft have, because at the moment people don't even seem to care or know that it exists.
The biggest selling point for the WiiU are Nintendo games, those generally aren't very appealing to the MS/Sony crowd.
 

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Speaking of VNs, is there any tracker that tracks PC sales in Japan? I imagine some of them like Fate/stay night must have sold really well there.
Famitsu (Enterbrain) tracks PC (or at least they used to), but numbers are hard to come by.

I just know rankings: http://pc-press.info/sales.html

You can tell by the pictures what type of PC games are the most popular in Japan...
 
Mar 22, 2009
10,810
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First day


Battlefield 40-50%

Akibastrip 40-50% vita slightly higher than ps3

Exstetra 30% vita 20% 3ds

Metal Max 30%

That snes game collection thing on 3ds 40%

Onechanbara 40%

Dream school tamagotchi - some kind of spill, maybe a broken egg?
 
Jul 6, 2012
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www.japanesenintendo.com
First day


Battlefield 40-50%

Akibastrip 40-50% vita slightly higher than ps3

Exstetra 30% vita 20% 3ds

Metal Max 30%

That snes game collection thing on 3ds 40%

Onechanbara 40%

Dream school tamagotchi - some kind of spill, maybe a broken egg?
Tamagotchi would've been better without a demo. The promotional videos are all amazing, the demo appalling.
 
Aug 3, 2009
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Moga Village
3DS - 13.575.994
PSP - 20.021.162

This is going to take a while... 2015 most likely.

Around 15 million by the end of this year, and I don't see 3DS selling another 5 million in 2014, even with the help of Dragon Quest XI and a new redesign?

3DS is running out of system-sellers in Japan, it's time for Nintendo to offer SE some incentive, get that FF up and running.
 
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3DS - 13.575.994
PSP - 20.021.162

This is going to take a while... 2015 most likely.

Around 15 million by the end of this year, and I don't see 3DS selling another 5 million in 2014, even with the help of Dragon Quest XI and a new redesign?

3DS is running out of system-sellers in Japan, it's time for Nintendo to offer SE some incentive, get that FF up and running.
I thought we had all concluded that Puzzles and Dragon Quest is going to be multiplatform on smartphones anyway.
 

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Still tracking ahead of Yakuza 5 (Media Create):

What, a Western game selling even better than a well-known Japanese franchise? Ok, Yakuza is no Monster Hunter, but that's quite impressive, really.

First day


Battlefield 40-50%

Akibastrip 40-50% vita slightly higher than ps3

Exstetra 30% vita 20% 3ds

Metal Max 30%

That snes game collection thing on 3ds 40%

Onechanbara 40%

Dream school tamagotchi - some kind of spill, maybe a broken egg?
Looks OK for eXstetra, though I'm not expecting huge numbers. Not surprised it's selling better on Vita either, though the gap seems smaller than for Conception II (maybe because it's an original game?).

I'm surprised that retro-collection game is selling that well. I know it's just %, but I was expecting that thing to have 40% sellthrough... after 4 days, not from Day 1.
 
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3DS - 13.575.994
PSP - 20.021.162

This is going to take a while... 2015 most likely.

Around 15 million by the end of this year, and I don't see 3DS selling another 5 million in 2014, even with the help of Dragon Quest XI and a new redesign?

3DS is running out of system-sellers in Japan, it's time for Nintendo to offer SE some incentive, get that FF up and running.
You're really setting yourself up for disappointement if you're looking forward to an FF on 3DS or rather on anything rather than the next gen consoles. The only new and original exclusive I see 3DS getting from Square is BD2.
 
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You're really setting yourself up for disappointement if you're looking forward to an FF on 3DS or rather on anything rather than the next gen consoles. The only new and original exclusive I see 3DS getting from Square is BD2.
You don't see TWEWY 2? I see at least a 3DS exclusive before an iOS version later down the road.
 

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03./00. [3DS] Little Battlers eXperience: Wars <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.10.31} (¥4.980) - 50.217 / NEW <60,31%>
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21./22. [3DS] Youkai Watch <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.07.11} (¥4.800)
22./13. [PS3] FIFA 14 # <SPT> (Electronic Arts) {2013.10.17} (¥7.665)
23./00. [PSP] Hentai Ouji to Warawanai Neko. # <ADV> (C-Territory) {2013.10.31} (¥6.090)
24./16. [PS3] Soccer Tsuku: Pro Soccer Club! <SLG> (Sega) {2013.10.10} (¥8.379)
25./18. [3DS] Sonic Lost World <ACT> (Sega) {2013.10.24} (¥5.229)
26./17. [PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.10.10} (¥6.980)
27./27. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800)
28./00. [PSV] Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational (PlayStation Vita the Best) # <SPT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.10.10} (¥2.940)
29./30. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800)
30./24. [PS3] Warriors Orochi 3: Ultimate # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.09.26} (¥6.615)
31./29. [3DS] Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.03.20} (¥4.800)
32./26. [3DS] Mario & Luigi: Dream Team # <RPG> (Nintendo) {2013.07.18} (¥4.800)
33./09. [PSP] Kamigami no Itazura # <ADV> (Broccoli) {2013.10.24} (¥6.090)
34./20. [PS3] Beyond: Two Souls <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.10.17} (¥5.980)
35./23. [PS3] Fairy Fencer F # <RPG> (Compile Heart) {2013.10.10} (¥7.329)
36./12. [PS3] Samurai Warriors 2 with Xtreme Legends & Empires HD Version # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.10.24} (¥5.040)
37./21. [PS3] Saint Seiya: Brave Soldiers # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.10.17} (¥7.480)
38./32. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Real Reborn # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.08.27} (¥3.300)
39./41. [WIU] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD <ADV> (Nintendo) {2013.09.26} (¥5.985)
40./25. [PSV] Soccer Tsuku: Pro Soccer Club! <SLG> (Sega) {2013.10.10} (¥7.329)
41./34. [PSV] Warriors Orochi 3: Ultimate # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.09.26} (¥6.090)
42./00. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Chibi Dragon to Fushigi na Orb <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.12} (¥5.040)
43./36. [PSV] The Legend Of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki # <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) {2013.09.26} (¥7.140)
44./40. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.29} (¥5.040)
45./43. [3DS] Kuma-Tomo <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.06.20} (¥4.980)
46./42. [PSP] God Eater: Burst (PSP the Best Reprint) <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.06.06} (¥1.800)
47./28. [PS3] Armored Core: Verdict Day <ACT> (From Software) {2013.09.26} (¥6.800)
48./33. [PSP] J-League Pro Soccer Club! 8: Euro + <SPT> (Sega) {2013.10.17} (¥5.229)
49./45. [3DS] Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.06.13} (¥4.800)
50./48. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800)
00./00. [3DS] Little Battlers eXperience: Explosive Boost <RPG> (Level 5) {2012.07.05} (¥4.400) - * / 207.000

Top 50

3DS - 17
PS3 - 14
PSP - 8
PSV - 8
WIU - 2
WII - 1

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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |
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28./00. [PSV] Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational (PlayStation Vita the Best) # <SPT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.10.10} (¥2.940)
So the bundle was a bit popular.




00./00. [3DS] Little Battlers eXperience: Explosive Boost <RPG> (Level 5) {2012.07.05} (¥4.400) - * / 207.000
Woo, over 200k.

I hope Youkai Watch becomes a million-seller for Level-5, the anime needs to happen already!
 
Feb 5, 2009
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3DS - 13.575.994
PSP - 20.021.162

This is going to take a while... 2015 most likely.

Around 15 million by the end of this year, and I don't see 3DS selling another 5 million in 2014, even with the help of Dragon Quest XI and a new redesign?

3DS is running out of system-sellers in Japan, it's time for Nintendo to offer SE some incentive, get that FF up and running.
I was wondering this the other day, is DQ XI targeted to the 3DS? Also i thought the DS remakes of the traditional FF games did well, what's holding up Square Enix for doing the same for the 3DS?
 
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You're really setting yourself up for disappointement if you're looking forward to an FF on 3DS or rather on anything rather than the next gen consoles. The only new and original exclusive I see 3DS getting from Square is BD2.
The only thing FF I could see is maybe the Type-0 subseries and even that looks happily smartphone bound instead of handhelds.

Bravely Default is a nice alternate though. It doesn't have the name brand but it's pretty much the most Final Fantasyish game in the ways that matter to me. So much moreso than the mainline games at this point too.
 
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I don't see TWEWY until KH3 is out of the way.
Why? That would contradict the nature of that type of game.

TWEWY was outsourced to Jupiter with only some involvement by SE staff. Therefore it was easy to do on the side since obviously as director and character designer Nomura can work on more than one project at the same time.

I don't see why a sequel would be different in that regard. The real question is, is 3DS the best platform for it since KH3D didn't do too great and the touch gameplay would maybe work better on a smart device.
 
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Why? That would contradict the nature of that type of game.

TWEWY was outsourced to Jupiter with only some involvement by SE staff. Therefore it was easy to do on the side since obviously as director and character designer Nomura can work on more than one project at the same time.

I don't see why a sequel would be different in that regard. The real question is, is 3DS the best platform for it since KH3D didn't do too great and the touch gameplay would maybe work better on a smart device.
KH3D underperformed in Japan but it did okay in the US. Same with TWEWY I believe.
 
1m average seems pretty low
A lot of developers there are making yore zed low end PS2 titles.

Also given its Japan you have scenarios like the average programmer salary being 85% that of a janitor: http://www.worldsalaries.org/japan.shtml

In comparison in the West programmers are often incredibly expensive, so you're looking at quite a cost base disparity that likely applies to most if not all roles on a project.
 
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Article about next-gen development cost and Japan:

http://sankei.jp.msn.com/west/west_economy/news/131109/wec13110912000001-n1.htm

I can't read Japanese but using the Google translation they apparently say average development cost for the PS3 was around 100m yen ($1m) per title or something like this if I understand correctly. They also expect PS4 development to be higher than PS3.
Just how much is that, the Mega Drive, PC-Engine and Saturn had their own fanbases but saw a lot more support.
 
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Sales goals from Sinobi:
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  • Battlefield 4: 330k (PS3) 20k (360)
  • Onechanbara Z Kagura: 50k (PS3)
  • Akiba's Trip 2: 100k (Vita) 50k (PS3)
  • Exstetra: 60k (Vita) 20k (3DS)
  • J Legend Retsuden: 50k (3DS)
  • Metal Max 4: 20k (Limited Ed.) 50k (Normal Ed.) (3DS)
  • Medabots Dual: 140k (3DS)
  • Seisou no Amazones: 20k (3DS)
  • God Eater 2: 400k (Vita) 200k (PS3)
  • COD Ghosts: 300k (PS3) 30k (360) 25k (WiiU)
  • Winning Eleven 2014: 370k (PS3) 70k (PSP) 70k (3DS)
 
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A lot of developers there are making yore zed low end PS2 titles.

Also given its Japan you have scenarios like the average programmer salary being 85% that of a janitor: http://www.worldsalaries.org/japan.shtml

In comparison in the West programmers are often incredibly expensive, so you're looking at quite a cost base disparity that likely applies to most if not all roles on a project.
Just look at those expectations a few posts above...20K sales expectations for the Year of the Amazoness RPG at 6,090 JPY ($61.42)? That's a gross profit of $1,228,480 and a net of $600,000 (50% to publisher is just a random estimate)...apparently this is a figure that Arc System Works is happy with.

But are niche and mid-tier retail developers (aka. not Square Enix, Sega Sammy, Capcom, Nintendo, Konami, Namco Bandai or Sony) going to transition over to the PS4 with those PS2-quality titles? Or are the expectations for PS4 too different than PS3 for niche Japanese developers to switch from PS3 / Vita (for retail titles)?

In the article they were talking about soaring development costs and the vicious cycle that accompanies it (companies produce "safe" titles to recoup extravagant development cost, take less risks as a result, and the sequel sells less than the predecessor). But as you pointed out, few companies in Japan are taking the "skyrocketing development costs" seriously.

Many have stopped caring about the latest and greatest graphics...for the sake of maintaining a strict budget.

I keep worrying that these companies have reached a plateau in terms of aspirations...i.e. they're not going to move onto the next iteration of consoles...and they'll stay behind on mobile, PS3 and handhelds where there is fully-realized, reduced expectations of where graphics must be.

When I imagine the "plateau" of mid-tier Japanese graphics, I think of Toukiden for the Vita...clearly a step up from the PS2 generation, but nowhere near graphically intensive...and perhaps inappropriate as a retail title for the PS4?







This ties into concerns about the health of the Japanese console market as a whole. With the Wii U doing incredibly poorly and the Xbox One setting itself up to fail (in terms of third-party relations), does this set the PS4 up to take the reigns from the PS3? Or is it filling a need that doesn't exist?