MH4 was announced before the Vita was even released but even then Capcom probably still would've gone 3DS.
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Media Create Sales: Week 49, 2013 (Dec 02 - Dec 08)
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MH4 was announced before the Vita was even released but even then Capcom probably still would've gone 3DS.
I'm really interested to see exactly how they have changed up the mechanics from FTP to a full price release, I tried the mobile version but it wasn't for me, I really don't like the enforced limit on play per day.
It's the reason I stopped playing Marvel Puzzle Quest too, keeping me coming back for 20 minutes a day to maximise the chance over a period of months of me getting annoyed and spending more money than I would do normally just doesn't work for me, I'd rather pay £30 up front and never again. Still the business model has left them rolling in enough cash to greenlight a portable version with my preferred business model as an afterthought, that can't be a bad thing.
It's not about console wars, it's about the financial incentives of not splitting a user base for a game with a heavy focus on multiplayer, while keeping development as cheap as possible. Vita would have required significant investment, PSP and 3DS were equally viable, but the 3DS came with Nintendo offering to promote it overseas (and a better future for their handheld overseas), something that was a core aim for the franchise.
why isn't every game on every platform?
Risk Breaker
Member
Well, thank god for that. I'm sure Capcom is really happy with its overseas' performance.
metalslimer
Member
Yeah why do companies get to play console warz with millions of dollars? This is how business works right guys?
MH4 will be the selling for at least another 12-18 months with a Budget/Best-Of version being released. 2014 will also be the date for a western release, which alone will push the game easily above 5 million and make it the best selling MH title so far.
MH isnt the problem for Capcom, the problem is what else they can release on handhelds - Revelations 2 would be nice or a Dragons Dogma Spin-Off.
MH isnt the problem for Capcom, the problem is what else they can release on handhelds - Revelations 2 would be nice or a Dragons Dogma Spin-Off.
Well, there's Super Smash Bros ha ha ha. Perfect game for the Golden Week, though it probably won't be released a few days before it starts.
For a second, I thought it was a sequel to that Dragon Ball card game, which performed quite well if I remember correctly.
You need to look at it as the franchise as a whole- they did alright with Monster Hunter Tri in that way, and 3G got bundled in with various eshop promotions, both of which were also efforts to beef up the number of MonHun fans here. It's a decade old, and previous efforts to sell it on Sony platforms in the West amounted to sod-all. It's easy enough to look at it with the benefits of hindsight now, but at the time, with the Vita yet to launch, it must have absolutely seemed like an option that was low cost, had everything to gain and little to lose overseas compared to the PSP sales of previously released titles.
Definitely a million times more happy than their P3rd overseas' performance.
Also why do you care whether Capcom are happy or not, are you a shareholder?
Me, as a gamer am very happy that Nintendo is willing to help out with the Monster Hunter franchise. I can just buy the game at my local store, pop the game in and play it.
With MHP3rd I had to wait for someone to make an English patch, import the expensive JP version, wait for it to arrive by mail, download the language patch. Rip the game, patch it, needs a CFW PSP and still a lot of things aren't translated. Well, thank god for Sony!
Nightstick11
Banned
Wait wait wait. I knew Phoenician was a very unique poster, but I find it hard to believe that anyone thought Monster Hunter 4 would FAIL.
Glass Rebel
Member
There were a few...
Remember a gaffer predicting MH4 to do less than 2M cause no MH game ever sold more than that on a Nintendo hardaware.
It's like one of the posters a year ago predicted that Monhun 3G wouldn't sell more than 800k and that a Vita version would sell double the amount (lol). Well that bit him in the ass
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Don't put words in my mouth like you usually put words in others peoples mouth. Its a fact it's selling less than 3, you can spin it the way you want the fact still stands.
Lol. People from glass houses should not throw stone, but
Its one way to spin.
All the time, don't you think that you post in a vacuum.
Lol underperforming is now a good thing for sequel. Yeah keep dreaming and spinning.
Let's be honest here it's like you don't have a post history of spinning Nintendo's news. And prove that I would do this or STFU. I guess some people here are allergic to numbers lol.
I have never once said the Vita is doing fine relative to expectations. Don't spout bullshit lies. The only thing i say is that the Vita is doing ok in Japan and that the 3DS has never met Nintendo's expectations. Both are correct statements. But of course you have to lie and put words into people's mouth to prove a point.
slaughterking
Member
Guys. Guys.
Nightstick11
Banned
Man, I should have paid more attention to those long-ass Vita vs. 3DS threads. Mind blown. So that's where all the hilarious meltdowns were.
Hellraider
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Herb Alpert
Banned
So, to come back on topic cause I guess the troll ate enough, shouldn't we have some numbers for Puzzle and Dragons now? Doesn't Famitsu release some figures on mondays when something special appear?
Only for real important stuff (like Monster Hunter for example, or Pokémon). I doubt Puzzle and Dragons Z is that important... if it'd sold 1 million + in just 4 days, maybe. So we'll have to wait a bit more before we get any numbers (unless Gibson -- that Nintendo analyst in Japan -- leaks some stuff on Twitter).
metalslimer
Member
lol this guy, I'm going to stop feeding this obvious troll
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
Is he right though? Is MH4 selling less than MH Portable 3rd?
Poimandres
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So this is anecdotal and all, but I'm on holidays in Tokyo at the moment and the Wii U is being pushed pretty hard. Ads on trains, and billboards at train stations. Super Mario 3D World demos on tv's at bic camera etc. Puzzles and Dragons is the only thing seemingly being pushed harder.
STFU? Be careful with what you said. I remember a guy who said a similar word got banned. Just a friendly reminder.
Glass Rebel
Member
MH4 isn't underperforming though. And I'm sure someone will come and say that Capcom always underestimates MH.
Sammy Samusu
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I was planning to save this thread but Tsutaya's weekly report is even less interesting than the current discussion. :'(
http://mantan-web.jp/2013/12/17/20131217dog00m200009000c.html
http://mantan-web.jp/2013/12/17/20131217dog00m200009000c.html
gamergirly
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What's even more hilarious are those trying to spread Wii U's troubles to the 3DS. The 3DS is not doing DS numbers but its fine. I still don't think Wii U is done by a mile......It's like one of the posters a year ago predicted that Monhun 3G wouldn't sell more than 800k and that a Vita version would sell double the amount (lol). Well that bit him in the ass
Depends who the user is
. I was told to shut the fuck up outright and the person was fine. I think the point is we should all try to be respectful. Which hopefully can last at least until we get the numbers this week!The WiiU is in a similar position to the PS3, which everyone agreed started out horribad last gen. The difference is the third party support. For HD games, the PS3 was the system to get. The WiiU simply isn't getting those games right now, and its exclusives, while obviously high quality, aren't selling. Not sure what Nintendo can do to change it at this point.
Sammy Samusu
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Actually, let's talk about Digimon Vita, interesting platform choice.
Looks like P&D did just fine, and Attack on Titan seems to be holding better than I expected. Of course, without any numbers...
Immaculate
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Isn't MH4 at 4 million including digital sales?
Hellraider
Member
Not yet, but it will definitely get there sooner or later. It's closer to 3.5 IIRC.
Jusr realized that Taiko WiiU has been released already.
Does anyone still thinks that it would have done worse on PS3?
Capcom has shipped 4M.
I think adding retail copies + DD estimates from Famitsu the game is around 3.5M
Does anyone still thinks that it would have done worse on PS3?
Capcom has shipped 4M.
I think adding retail copies + DD estimates from Famitsu the game is around 3.5M
That's actually shipped.
Yes. Shipments + digital sales
Famitsu has packaged + download cards at 3.171.035 up to December 8 and direct e-shop sales at 256.203 up to October 27.
After Week 13
[PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 3rd - 20 594 / 4,315,919
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 - 25.743 / 3.171.035
We also know that digital sales for MH4 are >250k
It should have legs and has yet to have its first christmass and golden week (whereas MHP3rd already had the former)
Immaculate
Banned
oh didn't know if it was shipped or sold. thanks for the clarification
Hellraider
Member
Stop spinning and twisting, the game sold less than portable 3rd it's clearly a failure!
Capcom is filling for bankruptcy as we speak.
...Still with MH4, eh?
It would be much better to talk about Digimon for Vita, seriously
I heard there was a high likelihood of large breasts in that game. True, or false?
Glass Rebel
Member
Very curious choice. One would think that the 3DS is a better choice for a game aimed at kids but who knows what their reasoning is.
Search for Devil Survivor and Digimon World Re: Digitize art. It might be the same artist, who knows.
Hero of Legend
Member
Yep, the only possible reason that springs to mind is that they have said ReDigitize was on PSP because the Digimon crowd was on PS platforms (to be fair, the original DW games were PS1 exclusives).
But other than that, this is a baffling choice, and it's not coming out until 2015, that's really bizarre even then alone.
That's me waiting for the Puzzle & Dragons figures :
Barely exaggerated.
Quoting myself because I want to know if there is some kind of record at stake with P&D.
Barely exaggerated.
Quoting myself because I want to know if there is some kind of record at stake with P&D.
The Vita actually has a surprisingly robust anime tie-in game line-up in terms of title count.
Vita Only:
-Sword Art Online
-Girls und Panzer
-Tu-Love Ru
-Digimon
-Madoka Magica: Battle Pentagram
Vita/PS3:
-J-Stars Victory
-Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Z
-Shin Gundam Musou
-Rozen Maiden: Wechseln Sie Welt ab
-Infinite Stratos 2: Ignition Hearts
-Super Heroine Chronicle
If I had to guess, Sony has either been spending to get this audience, or they have successfully convinced publishers they have this audience.
Vita Only:
-Sword Art Online
-Girls und Panzer
-Tu-Love Ru
-Digimon
-Madoka Magica: Battle Pentagram
Vita/PS3:
-J-Stars Victory
-Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Z
-Shin Gundam Musou
-Rozen Maiden: Wechseln Sie Welt ab
-Infinite Stratos 2: Ignition Hearts
-Super Heroine Chronicle
If I had to guess, Sony has either been spending to get this audience, or they have successfully convinced publishers they have this audience.