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Media Create Sales: Week 49, 2013 (Dec 02 - Dec 08)

Exile20

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Which is Sony's biggest IP now that Gran Turismo and God of War have declined the last few years? Uncharted?
Ye Sony doesn't seem to have any strong legacy IPs but we got Last of Us so if they keep giving us that then I guess it is okay.
 

kinggroin

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I still maintain that Nintendo should have focused all their energies to get MK8 out for the holidays. Would have been a great chance to build the kind of momentum that leads to a healthier sales life in Japan for the Wii U.
 

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Famitsu Sales: Week 49, 2013 (Dec 02 - Dec 08)

01./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 6 # <RCE> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.12.05} (¥6.980) - 187.640 / NEW <40-60%>
02./00. [WII] Dragon Quest X: Nemureru Yuusha to Michibiki no Meiyuu Online <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.12.05} (¥3.990) - 111.187 / NEW <80-100%>
03./02. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) - 93.387 / 3.449.741 <80-100%> (+54%)
04./00. [3DS] Attack on Titan: The Last Wings of Mankind <ACT> (Spike Chunsoft) {2013.12.05} (¥6.090) - 89.448 / NEW <60-80%>
05./00. [3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go Galaxy: Big Bang / Supernova <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.12.05} (¥5.500) - 85.834 / NEW <20-40%>
06./00. [WIU] Dragon Quest X: Nemureru Yuusha to Michibiki no Meiyuu Online <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.12.05} (¥3.990) - 68.560 / NEW <80-100%>
07./07. [WIU] Wii Party U # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.10.31} (¥4.935) - 49.344 / 226.352 <40-60%> (+67%)
08./10. [WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} (¥5.985) - 43.817 / 707.550 <80-100%> (+75%)
09./05. [WIU] Super Mario 3D World <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.11.21} (¥5.985) - 39.298 / 185.571 <60-80%> (+0%)
10./00. [3DS] Yu-Gi-Oh! Zexal Clash! Duel Carnival! <TBL> (Konami) {2013.12.05} (¥4.980) - 38.451 / NEW <40-60%>
11./00. [3DS] Bravely Default: For the Sequel <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.12.05} (¥4.990) - 36.990 / NEW <40-60%>
12./09. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 # <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.09.14} (¥5.990) - 25.743 / 3.171.035 <80-100%> (+0%)
13./03. [PS3] Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.11.21} (¥7.770) - 18.243 / 374.283 <80-100%> (-67%)
14./01. [3DS] Hatsune Miku: Project Mirai 2 # <ACT> (Sega) {2013.11.28} (¥6.279) - 17.238 / 101.914 <60-80%> (-80%)
15./24. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 15.965 / 3.908.197 <80-100%> (+56%)
16./04. [PS3] Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2013.11.28} (¥7.770) - 15.701 / 65.733 <60-80%> (-69%)
17./08. [3DS] One Piece: Unlimited World Red # <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.980) - 15.615 / 119.289 <40-60%> (-41%)
18./14. [3DS] Aikatsu! 2-nin no My Princess <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.480) - 13.845 / 83.364 <40-60%> (-12%)
19./30. [3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life # <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.08.01} (¥5.480) - 13.131 / 338.090 <80-100%> (+90%)
20./00. [3DS] Friend Collection: New Life # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.04.18} (¥4.800) - 12.848 / 1.488.511 <80-100%>
21./12. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.11.14} (¥7.980) - 12.441 / 227.760 <80-100%> (-43%)
22./00. [PS3] Batman: Arkham Begins # <ADV> (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2013.12.05} (¥7.980) - 11.537 / NEW <60-80%>
23./19. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2013.10.10} (¥7.770) - 11.466 / 567.810 <80-100%> (-23%)
24./13. [PSV] God Eater 2 # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.14} (¥5.980) - 11.089 / 326.713 <80-100%> (-43%)
25./00. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800) - 10.321 / 2.154.892 <80-100%>
26./29. [3DS] Battle For Money Sentouchuu: Densetsu no Shinobi no Survival Battle! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.10.17} (¥4.980) - 8.865 / 118.970 <60-80%> (+24%)
27./26. [WIU] Taiko no Tatsujin: Wii U Version! # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.480) - 7.996 / 33.261 <20-40%> (+3%)
28./00. [PS3] The Walking Dead: A Telltale Games Series <ADV> (CyberFront) {2013.12.05} (¥6.279) - 7.672 / NEW <60-80%>
29./06. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors 8: Xtreme Legends # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.11.28} (¥5.040) - 7.667 / 44.255 <60-80%> (-79%)
30./20. [PSP] God Eater 2 <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.14} (¥5.980) - 7.663 / 161.929 <80-100%> (-40%)

Top 30

3DS - 14
PS3 - 8
WIU - 5
PSP - 1
PSV - 1
WII - 1

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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
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| 3DS # |    122.126 |    100.144 |    219.103 |  4.293.808 |  4.592.776 |  14.056.310 |
|  WIU  |     46.773 |     27.325 |    308.570 |    608.773 |    308.570 |   1.247.112 |
| PSV # |     28.253 |     27.768 |     10.348 |  1.038.414 |    623.697 |   2.115.573 |
|  PS3  |     22.762 |     13.302 |     37.636 |    749.995 |  1.176.751 |   9.494.328 |
| PSP # |      4.198 |      3.657 |     17.379 |    406.404 |    820.690 |  19.585.504 |
|  WII  |      1.258 |        968 |      6.811 |     70.559 |    455.909 |  12.731.301 |
|  360  |        524 |        513 |      1.288 |     17.746 |     62.548 |   1.605.757 |
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|  ALL  |    225.894 |    173.677 |    601.774 |  7.192.603 |  8.092.431 |  82.823.144 |
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|  PSP  |      4.198 |      3.657 |     17.379 |    406.404 |    820.690 |  19.424.929 |
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Between Week 40 and Week 44 the Wii U sold 12,874 units (MC), and average of 3,219 per week.

In a single week last week it sold nearly 4 times that combined 4 weeks of sales.

Fuck you if you want to pretend this week's number was likely.
It is indeed much higher than most of us would've thought from last week. Some of it is obviously from Dragon Quest but even then it's a much faster ramp up for the holidays than I would've expected. I wonder how high it'll get to, didn't the Gamecube once get to around 100k the week of Christmas once?
 

metalslimer

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Are people missing the part of my post that said he can do without the last line?
No, because getting upset that a piece of plastic is getting shit on even without telling people to fuck off is a sign you take this way too seriously.
 

Exile20

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I still maintain that Nintendo should have focused all their energies to get MK8 out for the holidays. Would have been a great chance to build the kind of momentum that leads to a healthier sales life in Japan for the Wii U.
I am sure that is what they wanted but no matter ho much money and people you throw at a project it will still take time. It can also lead to a disastrous development.
 

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Still 4 weeks to go for the Christmas/New Year Season. Maybe 3D World can slowly climb to 500K LTD when it is all said and done... Disappointed but at least better than what people expected after bomba FW

According to Sinobi, Puzzle & Dragon Z (3DS), which releases tomorrow in Japan, already shows shortage for pre-order. Some shops will have second shipment on 20th Dec. Sinobi predicts it will be out of stock by Christmas time...

Gung Ho is the Christmas winner this time
 
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Hmm, what week was the december predictions? I think I predicted 220k or 250k for 3DW

Does that seem likely now?
 

KillerTravis

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Let the Nintendo fans have this.

There has been nothing but doom and gloom lately. Don't rain on their small parade.

Bu-but next week or well the 3ds is not doing ds numbers.

Let them have their cake.

Tommorow the npd bomb will hit and it will return to the regular scheduled program.
So how about that MGSV exclusive Xbox stuff? ;)
 

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I thought it was supposed to turn around in August once games started coming out? As it is, this is only at best a start. Three key test, as for the other next gen systems, will be how it does post-holiday.
Wii U sales pattern is probably gonna be unlike any previous console. Good launch. Horrible post launch. Good post relaunch.

Nintendo released good games, good bundles and good ads this quarter. The local multiplayer orientation of games like Mario & Wii Party should give the console exposure, beyond current owners. Thanks to that I expect more and more people will realize it's a fun system to own. I believe Wii U can enjoy better sales from now on, which could be cimented with Mario Kart on the near horizon.

Don't remind me of The Wonderful 101 terrible sales though, out of all audiences I believed japanese would love its artstyle and game mechanics. Plain wrong. Still hurts.
 
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I am sure that is what they wanted but no matter ho much money and people you throw at a project it will still take time. It can also lead to a disastrous development.
Should have done like most next gen games thus far: release it broken and patch later
 

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It is indeed much higher than most of us would've thought from last week. Some of it is obviously from Dragon Quest but even then it's a much faster ramp up for the holidays than I would've expected. I wonder how high it'll get to, didn't the Gamecube once get to around 100k the week of Christmas once?
Yep. Normally we'd expect this kind of numbers for WiiU leading up to the heat of the holiday period, but the system hasn't even been showing GC-like trends recently so that threw a lot of people off.
 

michaelius

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Which is Sony's biggest IP now that Gran Turismo and God of War have declined the last few years? Uncharted?
One weaker entry doesn't make those franchises decline.

If GT7 on PS4 doesn't hit GT5 numbers WW then we can talk about decline
GoW:A was only a spinoff and those never sell as well as main entries.

And even "flop" GT6 will probably end outselling any of Uncharted games as Gran Turismos sell for years.
 

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I've found GameCube's Media Create sales for December 2002 (which would be the equivalent of this year, also with a new 3D Mario at its side, with a new Zelda on top of it):

The charts for the week ending:

Dec. 8th: 26.200
Dec 15th: 67.500
Dec 22nd: 76.900
Dec 29th: 62.100
Jan 12th: 19.902

So Wii U's number this week are rather good in comparison. Which does not mean it's a revival, but considering GameCube sold better than Wii U, this is a good result.
 

jj984jj

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I was talking specifically about Japan since this is a Japanese sales thread. Globally 2013 could beat 2012, the 2DS performance is going to be key, it needs to bring in new buyers.
So was I? I only brought up the west because I think the software line-up we got over here in 2013 makes us forget that the situation in Japan was different. 2012 didn't have MH4 and Pokemon but it was already coming off a successful holiday that included MH3G and it had a steady stream of titles throughout 2012 over there too. It's disappointing that 3DS is not going to beat 2012 HW sales this year but does that really mean it has already peaked?
 

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No, because getting upset that a piece of plastic is getting shit on even without telling people to fuck off is a sign you take this way too seriously.
Telling people to fuck off over something like that is very rude, no idea why your trying to defend him. The discourse here is better than that regardless how badly you try to pretend it isn't and such behaviour shouldn't be condoned as "normal".
 

metalslimer

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Wii U sales pattern is probably gonna be unlike any previous console. Good launch. Horrible post launch. Good post relaunch.

Nintendo released good games, good bundles and good ads this quarter. The local multiplayer orientation of games like Mario & Wii Party should give the console exposure, beyond current owners. Thanks to that I expect more and more people will realize it's a fun system to own. I believe Wii U can enjoy better sales from now on, which could be cimented with Mario Kart on the near horizon.

Don't remind me of The Wonderful 101 terrible sales though, out of all audiences I believed japanese would love its artstyle and game mechanics. Plain wrong. Still hurts.
Yes, all based on the holidays where Nintendo systems have always done well. Well maybe the relaunch to Gamecube numbers is possible though.
Telling people to fuck off over something like that is very rude, no idea why your trying to defend him. The discourse here is better than that regardless how badly you try to pretend it isn't and such behaviour shouldn't be condoned as "normal".
You might want to read that post again unless you misquoted
 

Sakura

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In what way is the 2DS not inferior to the XL though?
I know very well what the Vita TV is, but it is also the only console hitting that low price point (abeit without a controller...) which is why I mentioned it. I just don't know if the 2DS is something people want, it's less portable with a similar battery life and much uglier. I see it steal some of the regular 3DS sales and the lower end audience might give it some growth, but not nearly enough to overcome the decline.
The Vita TV isn't a handheld console though, regardless of its price point, which is why I don't think it's comparable to the 2DS. The 2DS has done very well in the west so far even though it is "inferior", I don't see why it would be necessarily different in Japan.
 

kinggroin

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Wii U sales pattern is probably gonna be unlike any previous console. Good launch. Horrible post launch. Good post relaunch.

Nintendo released good games, good bundles and good ads this quarter. The local multiplayer orientation of games like Mario & Wii Party should give the console exposure, beyond current owners. Thanks to that I expect more and more people will realize it's a fun system to own. I believe Wii U can enjoy better sales from now on, which could be cimented with Mario Kart on the near horizon.

Don't remind me of The Wonderful 101 terrible sales though, out of all audiences I believed japanese would love its artstyle and game mechanics. Plain wrong. Still hurts.
I cry inside every time I boot the game up.


Poor tearaway too.
 

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I wonder how a new 3ds FE would perform. Would Awakening be pretty much the upper ceiling for the series? Or could it see further growth?

It seems like they could easily build up and improve many of Awakening's features (more customization for the avatar, maybe some interactivity in support conversations with the avatar, integrating fanservice/past game characters better, more map events - there's also much more, like game balance, but I think history shows that those elements don't help sales much already...), but I guess it's hard to know if that'd translate into sales.
 

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Which is Sony's biggest IP now that Gran Turismo and God of War have declined the last few years? Uncharted?
Go figure, the second GT game in a generation continues to sell less and a fourth GOW game that no one wanted sold like crap, much like the other GOW.
Truly the signs of declining franchises.
 

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I've found GameCube's Media Create sales for December 2002 (which would be the equivalent of this year, also with a new 3D Mario at its side, with a new Zelda on top of it):

The charts for the week ending:

Dec. 8th: 26.200
Dec 15th: 67.500
Dec 22nd: 76.900
Dec 29th: 62.100
Jan 12th: 19.902

So Wii U's number this week are rather good in comparison. Which does not mean it's a revival, but considering GameCube sold better than Wii U, this is a good result.

the GC had competitors on the market, wii u won't have any of them for months
 

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I've found GameCube's Media Create sales for December 2002 (which would be the equivalent of this year, also with a new 3D Mario at its side, with a new Zelda on top of it):

The charts for the week ending:

Dec. 8th: 26.200
Dec 15th: 67.500
Dec 22nd: 76.900
Dec 29th: 62.100
Jan 12th: 19.902

So Wii U's number this week are rather good in comparison. Which does not mean it's a revival, but considering GameCube sold better than Wii U, this is a good result.
What where the GC sales the week ending Dec. 1st?
 
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So I guess the DS dropping in 2007 compared to 2006 was "bad news"? I'm telling you the current trends are similar to the DS', but on a smaller scale. Make of it what you will but don't pretend that it is an anomaly.
DS 2006 is 3DS 2013. Was the year of New Super Mario Bros, Pokemon, Brain Age 2 alongside all these training games that sold a fuckton. This should have been the best 3DS year looking at it's software, yet is not.

I don't know how that is not an anomality unless you think a system in their 3rd year already reached it's peak on sales on their best software year.
 

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In what way is the 2DS not inferior to the XL though?
I know very well what the Vita TV is, but it is also the only console hitting that low price point (abeit without a controller...) which is why I mentioned it. I just don't know if the 2DS is something people want, it's less portable with a similar battery life and much uglier. I see it steal some of the regular 3DS sales and the lower end audience might give it some growth, but not nearly enough to overcome the decline.
The XL is literally the original but larger a few minor improvements. The 2DS has different form factor safe for children as well as much cheaper. It's an entirely different value proposition.
 

metalslimer

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I wonder how a new 3ds FE would perform. Would Awakening be pretty much the upper ceiling for the series? Or could it see further growth?
I think there could be some growth, but I don't think FE is the type of series to ever shift 800-1million copies in Japan. I think they are very happy with the current result and I would be shocked if they didn't follow up Awakenings. It's actually one of the titles I expect next year for the 3DS given 2 years is plenty of time with the engine done.
 

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So was I? I only brought up the west because I think the software line-up we got over here in 2013 makes us forget that the situation in Japan was different. 2012 didn't have MH4 and Pokemon but it was already coming off a successful holiday that included MH3G and it had a steady stream of titles throughout 2012 over there too. It's disappointing that 3DS is not going to beat 2012 HW sales this year but does that really mean it has already peaked?
It's important to remember that the 3DS has sold more 14m units already. That's already close to the numbers of leading systems like FC, SFC, PS1, PS2, GBA, and also the PSP. I think 2012 represented the peak and while there is still plenty of life left, I think the number of significant system sellers have largely been exhausted. Now it's more about maintaining software presence to entice new buyers, I think.

DS 2006 is 3DS 2013. Was the year of New Super Mario Bros, Pokemon, Brain Age 2 alongside all these training games that sold a fuckton. This should have been the best 3DS year looking at it's software, yet is not.

I don't know how that is not an anomality unless you think a system in their 3rd year already reached it's peak on sales on their best software year.
2006 also had the launch of the DS Lite in addition to that. I'm sure you know the model relaunch for 3DS was in 2012, not 2013. 2012 also was no slouch in terms of software releases, especially with mid-tier titles where I feel 2013 has fallen a little short of.

DS' peak was in 2006. It launched in late 2004.
 

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Go figure, the second GT game in a generation continues to sell less and a fourth GOW game that no one wanted sold like crap, much like the other GOW.
Truly the signs of declining franchises.
Agreed, not necessarily declines, but poor decision making at Sony. They likely hurt the images of their respective franchises, though.
 

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Yes, all based on the holidays where Nintendo systems have always done well. Well maybe the relaunch to Gamecube numbers is possible though.


You might want to read that post again unless you misquoted
No I was talking about your general argument towards it (not that specific post).
 

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Wii U's sales are disappointing in general, but after this year of sales, what would the Wii U have to sell this week for you not to be disappointed in it's holiday sales? The bump is sizeable. I don't know how the GameCube performed in the same timeframe, but the GameCube should probably be the (unreachable)upper ceiling for any expectations for Wii U.
Hey, I'm not saying that Wii U has to sell Wii numbers to prove its worth. After a price drop and release of several key evergreen titles, we would expect sales to pick up as the sales base increases and more games are released and announced. We are seeing a minuscule bump after what is undoubtedly Nintendo's biggest and best game released this year. Something about that just seems off, no matter which way you slice it.
 

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the GC had competitors on the market, wii u won't have any of them for months
I naiver would be naive to think that the 3DS and PS3 aren't competitors to the WiiU when it comes to disposable income. Not even mentioning the big mobile gaming cloud.
 

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Go figure, the second GT game in a generation continues to sell less and a fourth GOW game that no one wanted sold like crap, much like the other GOW.
Truly the signs of declining franchises.
Wouldn't those games usually sell much higher thanks to the huge installbase? I don't see a decline in GTA. Anyway I was just curious, and it seems most people agree GT is still Sony's biggest IP, hopefully they'll do something interesting for 7.
 

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Whoa whoa. Hold the phone people. A Wii U bump is nice, but let's not fly off the handle here. Decent (in relative terms anyway) numbers for Wii U will continue for the holiday season and then it's going to hit rock bottom faster than Spongebob and Patrick going home from GloveWorld. Nintendo needs to fast track some titles and quick to keep some sort of momentum going.
So you are saying we are not allowed to celebrate little unforseen bumps?

Nobody is saying that the issues of Wii U are solved, and everybody knows Nintendo has a very rocky road ahead, relax
 

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Like I said in the other thread:

If Nintendo had a 2nd game ready around this time like Mario Kart 8, the momentum going into 2014 could've resembled the 3DS, along with DK on February it could've meant a nice start of a turnaround. Too bad they couldn't get it ready for this year.
No that would have not happend. Wii U doesn't have the 3rd party support the 3DS had.
 

Principate

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But my general argument is that it's was that it was completely ridiculous to say that.
Your were saying it was fine for people crap like that about how a system sales. Whichever side, saying fuck you is uncalled for and shouldn't be condoned.
 

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Go figure, the second GT game in a generation continues to sell less and a fourth GOW game that no one wanted sold like crap, much like the other GOW.
Truly the signs of declining franchises.
Jump to conclusions much?

Gran Turismo 10,850
Gran Turismo 2 9,370
Gran Turismo 3 A-spec 14,890
Gran Turismo Concept Series 1,560
Gran Turismo 4 &#8220;Prologue&#8221; 1,400
Gran Turismo 4 11,730
Gran Turismo 5 &#8220;Prologue&#8221; 5,350
Gran Turismo PSP 4,220
Gran Turismo 5 10,660

GT5 sold more than GT4 even with the lower install base.
It also destroyed GT4 if you count GT5 Prologue.
It's the second most sold GT ever (losing to GT3).
Once again, It's even bigger than that if you count GT5 Prologue.

GT6 is a victim of a business strategy: Give one last big exclusive to PS3 owners and take advantage of the higher install base. Sales suffered due nextgen arriving at the same time.
That said, It will have big legs, just like GT5. I can see it reaching 6M before GT7 launches. Sony still should have launched this sooner or made it a PS4 game.
 
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So you are saying we are not allowed to celebrate little unforseen bumps?

Nobody is saying that the issues of Wii U are solved, and everybody knows Nintendo has a very rocky road ahead, relax
hahaha

standards: so flexible of nature