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Media Create Sales: Week 51, 2012 (Dec 17 - Dec 23)

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Yeah, but it would be even more appropriate if the Wii U sales would be better; they have a lot of work to do

Basically Nintendo has proven they can compete in the handheld business versus the emerging smart phone era.

Good for them (Sony needs to learn from them or get out).

Now console wise....I don't think Nintendo is fully there. Too many misteps, and obvious ones too. Not sure if it is the Japanese business culture causing the issues, but something is just off with their console business (from the Wii U marketing name confusion, to the bad value proposition difference between the two SKUs, to the massive updates, etc...).

EDIT: I'm leaning towards a business culture problem because the 3DS launch had similar issues and was bungled badly.
 

Majmun

Member
Ouch indeed.

I wish we could track numbers from other regions as well.

I wonder how many Wii U consoles Nintendo has sold so far..
 

axisofweevils

Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
So - 3DS sales in December:

Dec 03-09 - 211,499
Dec 10-16 - 319,025
Dec 17-23 - 433,788

3DS December - 964,312
Vita LTD - 1,110,333

I wouldn't be surprised if the 3DS December sales pass the Vita LTD next week.
 
Ouch indeed.

I wish we could track numbers from other regions as well.

I wonder how many Wii U consoles Nintendo has sold so far..

December NPD numbers will give us good picture of WiiU sales so far as we know Japan sales and from PAL charts we can see that in EU it's bombing hard.
 

Laguna

Banned
Looking at the charts and releasdates it´s somewhat interesting that the ridiculed Level5 is actually one of the few 3rd party publishers that are actually trying to benefit from the predictable 3DS success this December.

07./01. [3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go 2 94.907 / 263.086
 
So, we know Nintendo did 400k + on launch week in NA.
We know they'll be close up around 700k in Japan by the end of 2012.

What are the odds they didn't pull 8-900k in Dec in NA + Europe since its launch?

I think they're still on track to hit their 2 million by year end target.
 

Road

Member
Highest 6th weeks:

1999-12-20 [NGB] Pokémon Gold / Silver (Nintendo) {1999-11-21} - 573,427 / 3,628,627
2002-12-23 [GBA] Pokémon Ruby / Sapphire (Pokemon Co.) {2002-11-21} - 385,614 / 3,197,762
2012-12-10 [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf (Nintendo) {2012-11-08} - 213,329 / 1,722,709
2006-10-30 [NDS] Pokémon Diamond / Pearl (Pokemon Co.) {2006-09-28} - 183,048 / 2,935,294
2005-12-26 [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo) {2005-11-23} - 169,795 / 1,339,552


Highest 7th weeks:

1999-12-27 [NGB] Pokémon Gold / Silver (Nintendo) {1999-11-21} - 477,507 / 4,106,134
2002-12-30 [GBA] Pokémon Ruby / Sapphire (Pokemon Co.) {2002-11-21} - 408,831 / 3,606,593
2012-12-17 [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf (Nintendo) {2012-11-08} - 400,320 / 2,123,029
2007-12-17 [NDS] Mario Party DS (Nintendo) {2007-11-08} - 307,901 / 1,070,481
2006-01-02 [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo) {2005-11-23} - 152,339 / 1,491,891
 

GCX

Member
I'm interested in where NSMB2 will end up when it's all said and done. It was an initial disappointment but the holiday sales have been really impressive.
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Animal Crossing: New Leaf v.s. Wild World & Let's go to the City: after seven weeks (Famitsu)

[NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo) - 152.339 / 1.491.891 23/11/05 [Week 48, 2005]
[WII] Animal Crossing: City Folk (Nintendo) - 91.065 / 986.367 20/11/08 [Week 47, 2008]
[3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 400.320 / 2.123.02 [Week 45, 2012]
 
So, we know Nintendo did 400k + on launch week in NA.
We know they'll be close up around 700k in Japan by the end of 2012.

What are the odds they didn't pull 8-900k in Dec in NA + Europe since its launch?

I think they're still on track to hit their 2 million by year end target.


As far as I know there is no such target. But of course if there would be, than they would be on track considering that said target would be shipments and some of these would still be in transit, but already accounted for as shipped.
They should have easily shipped more than 2.5m at the end of 2012, even if we assume disastrous sales for Europe, which is possible (1.3m+ NA, 500k+ Europe/Other, 700k+ Japan).
 
Animal Crossing: New Leaf v.s. Wild World & Let's go to the City: after seven weeks (Famitsu)

[NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo) - 152.339 / 1.491.891 23/11/05 [Week 48, 2005]
[WII] Animal Crossing: City Folk (Nintendo) - 91.065 / 986.367 20/11/08 [Week 47, 2008]
[3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 400.320 / 2.123.02 [Week 45, 2012]

Awesome, thanks for these. Is the reason for the discrepancy between Media Create and Famitusu because Famitsu is counting digital sales?
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Awesome, thanks for these. Is the reason for the discrepancy between Media Create and Famitusu because Famitsu is counting digital sales?

If by digital sales you mean "download cards bought in stores", then yes, most of the discrepancy is due to the fact Famitsu counts them while MC doesn't. Then, we must also count usual differences between the two trackers which happen sometimes.
 
If by digital sales you mean "download cards bought in stores", then yes, most of the discrepancy is due to the fact Famitsu counts them while MC doesn't. Then, we must also count usual differences between the two trackers which happen sometimes.

Yeah, I meant the download cards. Good to know - thanks.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
If by digital sales you mean "download cards bought in stores", then yes, most of the discrepancy is due to the fact Famitsu counts them while MC doesn't. Then, we must also count usual differences between the two trackers which happen sometimes.

I kind of like that one does and one doesn't do this, since we have some sense of how the download cards are doing.
 
Looking at the charts and releasdates it´s somewhat interesting that the ridiculed Level5 is actually one of the few 3rd party publishers that are actually trying to benefit from the predictable 3DS success this December.

07./01. [3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go 2 94.907 / 263.086

Namco Bandai is also trying to benefit from this period. Run for Money, Cinderella Lesson, Toriko, Taiko no Tatsujin (even though it was released this Summer) are all selling greatly. I'm expecting more manga tie-in next year, maybe the next One Piece will be on 3DS (Gigant Battle 3?).

Also Konami was right in releasing the 4th Magician's Quest. It'll do 100k easily.

3 million looks like a lock for Animal Crossing at this point. You guys think 4 million is doable?

4 million are absolutely doable. Crazy.

Highest 6th weeks:

1999-12-20 [NGB] Pokémon Gold / Silver (Nintendo) {1999-11-21} - 573,427 / 3,628,627
2002-12-23 [GBA] Pokémon Ruby / Sapphire (Pokemon Co.) {2002-11-21} - 385,614 / 3,197,762
2012-12-10 [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf (Nintendo) {2012-11-08} - 213,329 / 1,722,709
2006-10-30 [NDS] Pokémon Diamond / Pearl (Pokemon Co.) {2006-09-28} - 183,048 / 2,935,294
2005-12-26 [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo) {2005-11-23} - 169,795 / 1,339,552


Highest 7th weeks:

1999-12-27 [NGB] Pokémon Gold / Silver (Nintendo) {1999-11-21} - 477,507 / 4,106,134
2002-12-30 [GBA] Pokémon Ruby / Sapphire (Pokemon Co.) {2002-11-21} - 408,831 / 3,606,593
2012-12-17 [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf (Nintendo) {2012-11-08} - 400,320 / 2,123,029
2007-12-17 [NDS] Mario Party DS (Nintendo) {2007-11-08} - 307,901 / 1,070,481
2006-01-02 [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo) {2005-11-23} - 152,339 / 1,491,891

Thanks! I was just about to ask such comparison. 400k for the 7th week is incredible.
 
I fully expect Nintendo to be saving stuff for E3 to counter MS and Sony's new systems.

My guess is we see a full blowout of Super Smash Bros and possibly a Mario Kart (although I expect that to be a holiday 2014 title).

3D Mario as well.
Eh, that only matters for core Nintendo fans like myself. No one else is going to care if MS and Sony are both showing off new console hardware. E3 almost unanimously goes to whoever shows new hardware. Only problem is that Nintendo has been horrifically bad for two years in a row when it comes to E3.

All Sony needs to show is a console, guaranteed BC in some form, party chat and a trailer from whatever Naughty Dog is working on and they've got E3. Microsoft... well, I have no clue what they have to offer from a first party perspective. The hardware will surely impress though.
 

tmarques

Member
Very nice!

Could see Nintendo dropping $50/5000 Yen from the price in August (like 3DS's price drop date) to prop up sales and give momentum heading into the next Fall with the 720 (and PS4?) launch(es).

Why would Nintendo give a toss whether the 720 is released in Japan?
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Paper Mario have Download Card? Because Media Create tracked higher than Famitsu.

Yes, Paper Mario has download cards too, and that's why I talked about "natural" discrepancies having a role in the big difference for Animal Crossing. This also shows us how AC is selling great amounts of cards: since there are shortages of retail copies, people who feel the need to play it decide to buy the card.
 

donny2112

Member
I think 3 million is pushing it. But I may be deluded.

You're deluded. The question is if it'll hit 5 million like Wild World did on DS.

When do those get released? Do they included Walmart, etc.?

Prediction thread goes up Sunday. They'll be released on January 10th.

Edit:
Oh, and Wal-Mart used to be estimated for, but has been directly included with actual sales since May 2012. NPD has gone back and backfitted some monthly values correcting for historical Wal-Mart data, too, which plays all kinds of havoc on using past "Wal-Mart estimated" values vs. current "Wal-mart direct vs. backfitted Wal-Mart direct" growth estimations, too. :lol

I kind of like that one does and one doesn't do this, since we have some sense of how the download cards are doing.

Yeah, it's a nice bonus. :)
 

Sleepy

Member
edit: so nintendo had 82,72% of all holiday hardware sales...that's kinda impressive

What would be very impressive for you then? LOL


You're deluded. The question is if it'll hit 5 million like Wild World did on DS. Prediction thread goes up Sunday. They'll be released on January 10th.

Right. For some reason I thought WW did not hit 3 million. New Leaf seems a huge improvement, so it will probably do those numbers.
 
Wow I had no idea that AC was so popular in Japan. I mean, I know it usually sells pretty well but Jesus Christ. That chart gif blew my mind. Anyone have the numbers for the previous games? Sorry if I missed it if it was already posted.
As of writing this, the latest week for 3DS hasn't been added in, but
N64


Just looking at early days for each:
N64

DragonSworne said:
The next two weeks should see Wii U selling over 300-400k.
Why? This week is basically the peak, though the first week of January can come pretty close.
nextgeneration said:
3 million looks like a lock for Animal Crossing at this point. You guys think 4 million is doable?
Without getting into the specifics of Animal Crossing right now, here's what I've got for games PS2 on that sold 2 million within the first 50 days.
400

About half hit 4 million. Among those that didn't are some more front-loaded RPGs like DQ VIII, FFX, and FF XII. Also MHP2G is low on the list, though that's only because it's being counted separately from the budget rereleases.
 

donny2112

Member
Why would Nintendo give a toss whether the 720 is released in Japan?

In Japan, they wouldn't, but as indicated by the "$50/5000 Yen" format, wasn't talking about just Japan. They'd probably still want to go ahead and include Japan with a U.S./rest of world price drop in August, though, to get things revving for December, even if PS4 isn't releasing in 2013.
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Comparing the multiple releases of MH3 on each system won't get us anywhere since the numbers are so different, but I guess we can compare the "Best" relesaes of Monster Hunter:

3DS-MH3G


Click here for the numbers.

Very surprised to see MH3G "The Best" doing so well compared to the other ones. That's a pretty good signal for MH4.
 
Explanation for the lines that stick out to the left: For the 3DS one I know it was Famitsu counting together a bundled version that released before the standalone and the database using the standalone's release date; I'm guessing it's something similar for MHP2G_2.
 

Elios83

Member
Wii U is clearly not selling as well as Nintendo expected even in Japan.
If sales stay flat (or even drop) in the next two weeks, January could be brutal.
The rest is pretty much expected, 3DS is ruling the japanese holiday season, PS3 is doing ok, Vita is being simply skipped until there's enough software to make it an appealing purchase, Wii and 360 are dead. The only surprise this week is the PSP spike which basically proves that games sell the hardware.
 
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