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[DarkLordMalik]

I'm expecting Vita to be down to about 500k-550k this year which will be a fairly significant drop. We're beginning to see the migration of the third parties that have supported the console well (i.e. Senran Kagura PS4-only; Trails of Cold Steel PS4-only).

Also, there's not really any big games left on the horizon for it. Maybe a few in the early months (DanganRonpa/Super Robot Wars/Accel World vs. SAO) but other than that, the latter half of the year has nothing announced. I'm sure there will be a Gundam game here and a One Piece there but we've always had a number of upcoming games that I thought for sure would've been 100k+ sellers and I can't really say the same for 2017.

Still, there's enough to keep it from a complete collapse.

I'd say that how the Vita held was impressive considering the handheld it was proclaimed dead back in 2015

 

[Shizuka]

I'd say that how the Vita held was impressive considering the handheld it was proclaimed dead back in 2012

Fixed.

 

[Kresnik258]

Fixed.

Yeah, this. Should probably go back and check those threads from before the red/blue 1000 models launched where Vita was selling like 3-4k a week and people were saying the console was done, lol.

Good times.

 

[Oregano]

Vita's lifecycle is a testament to the strength of Sony's third party relations. If Vita was a Nintendo machine it would have been dropped in its first year. Sony has done an amazing job.

 

[Jawbreaker]

Vita's lifecycle is a testament to the strength of Sony's third party relations. If Vita was a Nintendo machine it would have been dropped in its first year. Sony has done an amazing job.

It would have also had a really shitty screen.

 

[Oregano]

It would have also had a really shitty screen.

Vita's screen could have probably done with being lower res tbh.

 

[Shizuka]

Vita's screen could have probably done with being lower res tbh.

If it was any lower, it'd be a PSP.

 

[Oregano]

If it was any lower, it'd be a PSP.

Wut?

480p would have cut down on the amount of subnative games and still been a leap from PSP.

 

[Hellraider]

It would have also had a really shitty screen.

Vita's screen is a lot better than it needed to. It did more harm than good if you ask me. The exact opposite way that is the 3DS is also not ideal.

 

[Chris1964]

don't think it's a given
could nintendo switch release and moderate ps4 grow offset 3ds decline and ps3 + wii u being dead?

and to clarify i talk about the overall market including software. not just hardware
software for ps3 and wii u will be abysmal this year

We talk for a total of 5m hardware sold in 2016 with Nintendo letting Wii U die and abandoning 3DS.

Software and hardware for Wii U and PS3 were abysmal for 2016.

400k hardware and 2,5m software aren't numbers that are difficult to be offset. Q4 2016 was up and Q1 2017 will be up too.

 

[Ōkami]

Dengeki, the superior tracker has updated,

Spoiler

with numbers from 2 weeks ago.

First week shipment of Momotetsu around 205k.

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and Monster Strike also on dengeki, at 808k and 963k respectively.

2 million units of software sold on xmas week, 1.5m just 3DS games.

31 million games sold with one week to go, a little less than 50% is just 3DS.

 

[Kresnik258]

Dengeki, the superior tracker has updated,

Spoiler

with numbers from 2 weeks ago.

First week shipment of Momotetsu around 205k.

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and Monster Strike also on dengeki, at 808k and 963k respectively.

2 million units of software sold on xmas week, 1.5m just 3DS games.

31 million games sold with one week to go, a little less than 50% is just 3DS.

http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/445/1445335/

P.S. What's the Rejet game at #22? Can't figure it out.
So I can check it out properly when I get home.

 

[Aostia]

Vita's lifecycle is a testament to the strength of Sony's third party relations. If Vita was a Nintendo machine it would have been dropped in its first year. Sony has done an amazing job.

A Nintendo did with the wiiu continuing supporting it instead of abansoning it first party side as Sony did with vita?
Two different business model with similar results, being the home and portable segment status different in japan (both results disappointing of course )

 

[Chris1964]

Vita's lifecycle is a testament to the strength of Sony's third party relations. If Vita was a Nintendo machine it would have been dropped in its first year. Sony has done an amazing job.

Sony has done an amazing job trying to kill Vita.

Sony has nothing to do with Vita's hold last 2 years, Minecraft has.

 

[Oregano]

A Nintendo did with the wiiu continuing supporting it instead of abansoning it first party side as Sony did with vita?
Two different business model with similar results, being the home and portable segment status different in japan (both results disappointing of course )

Right but they haven't had to. If Nintendo ditched 3DS two years ago third parties would have fled for the hills.

Sony has done an amazing job trying to kill Vita.

Sony has nothing to do with Vita's hold last 2 years, Minecraft has.

Third parties have continued to support the Vita and Sony's only tried killing it in favour of getting that support on to the PS4. The fact that they can even try that(and it looks like their succeeding) is a testament to how amazing they are at third party relations.

 

[Chris1964]

How good or bad Sony is with third parties doesn't have many things to do with Vita's lifecycle and Vita's small hw declines last 2 years. If it wasn't Minecraft it would be way lower already.

In the end that Minecraft has done to Vita what Splatoon has done to Wii U, extending their lifes for 1-2 years, doesn't change the big picture.

Both are massive failures in the eyes of their parent companies and the market.

 

[Aostia]

Right but they haven't had to. If Nintendo ditched 3DS two years ago third parties would have fled for the hills.



Third parties have continued to support the Vita and Sony's only tried killing it in favour of getting that support on to the PS4. The fact that they can even try that(and it looks like their succeeding) is a testament to how amazing they are at third party relations.

That shows different business models but in vita and wiiu cases both have been a failure
Seeing greatness in an abandoned portable that performed almost (almost) on par with the failed wiiu is strange

PS4 Japanese third party support really is a sign of Sony's strenght on the market

Vita isnt

 

[Gamer @ Heart]

Vita's lifecycle is a testament to the strength of Sony's third party relations. If Vita was a Nintendo machine it would have been dropped in its first year. Sony has done an amazing job.

What am I reading?

Sony dropping basically all support for it after a year and a half is not deserving of praise. Pushing third party games was literally their ONLY job because they had no faith in putting resources on it.

 

[Oregano]

How good or bad Sony is with third parties doesn't have many things to do with Vita's lifecycle and Vita's small hw declines last 2 years. If it wasn't Minecraft it would be way lower already.

In the end that Minecraft has done to Vita what Splatoon has done to Wii U, extending their lifes for 1-2 years, doesn't change the big picture.

Both are massive failures in the eyes of their parent companies and the market.

Fair enough, it wouldn't have even made it to Minecraft's release if it wasn't for the strong third party support though.

That shows different business models but in vita and wiiu cases both have been a failure
Seeing greatness in an abandoned portable that performed almost (almost) on par with the failed wiiu is strange

PS4 Japanese third party support really is a sign of Sony's strenght on the market

Vita isnt

That's what actually makes it all the more impressive. Despite doing relatively quite badly the Vita still gets the most releases of any platform(even more than PS4 I think). "The Sony ecosystem" has a near monopoly on JP support.

What am I reading?

Sony dropping basically all support for it after a year and a half is not deserving of praise. Pushing third party games was literally their ONLY job because they had no faith in putting resources on it.

The thing is no one cares that Sony first party dropped it. People are wary of the Switch based on a perceived lack of support for the Wii U from Nintendo and a shortened lifespan.

 

[Sandfox]

Fair enough, it wouldn't have even made it to Minecraft's release if it wasn't for the strong third party support though.



That's what actually makes it all the more impressive. Despite doing relatively quite badly the Vita still gets the most releases of any platform(even more than PS4 I think). "The Sony ecosystem" has a near monopoly on JP support.



The thing is no one cares that Sony first party dropped it. People are wary of the Switch based on a perceived lack of support for the Wii U from Nintendo and a shortened lifespan.

I don't really think you can say no one cares.

 

[Oregano]

I don't really think you can say no one cares.

It doesn't appear to have hurt PS4 and people are lining up for PS VR despite the fact Sony will probably stop making games for it next year.

 

[michaelius]

Sony has done an amazing job trying to kill Vita.

Sony has nothing to do with Vita's hold last 2 years, Minecraft has.

Remind me who is publisher for Vita version of Minecraft ?

 

[Aostia]

Fair enough, it wouldn't have even made it to Minecraft's release if it wasn't for the strong third party support though.



That's what actually makes it all the more impressive. Despite doing relatively quite badly the Vita still gets the most releases of any platform(even more than PS4 I think). "The Sony ecosystem" has a near monopoly on JP support.



The thing is no one cares that Sony first party dropped it. People are wary of the Switch based on a perceived lack of support for the Wii U from Nintendo and a shortened lifespan.

Minecraft was published also on wiiu
What a strong and amszing job by Nintendo with third parties!

JP monopoly but higher sales on Nintendo platform sw wise from third parties (3ds)

No one cares about Sony first party but no one buys the console (are we really praising vita sales? Putting home and portable in perspective they are the equivalent of the wiiu sales)

People is worried about switch for first party because actually people look at Nintendo consoles primarly because of first party, as they look at sony's consoles primarly for third parties

Fact is: when there are only first party on one side and third on the other and console are abandoned from the counterpart, they fail

Wiiu and vita are both examples of bad management

 

[Oregano]

I'm not sure you're understanding at all. The amount of third party support for Vita is amazing considering the failure of the system, the fact that it's direct competitor is so dominant and the fact that Sony themselves dropped the system two years ago. That is what is being praised.

That's the reason Vita is still being talked about now whilst Wii U is officially discontinued.

 

[ArkhamFantasy]

There's alot more that goes into supporting a platform than just first party games so Oregano isnt wrong.

 

[Takao]

Remind me who is publisher for Vita version of Minecraft ?

Remind me who didn't keep Telltale to their word to release Minecraft: Story Mode on Vita. Even Wii U got that.

 

[Kresnik258]

I'm not sure you're understanding at all. The amount of third party support for Vita is amazing considering the failure of the system, the fact that it's direct competitor is so dominant and the fact that Sony themselves dropped the system two years ago. That is what is being praised.

I do think that a lot of what was done around 2013 to get certain multi-plats on board has ensured the console is still getting content well into 2017.

For example, I think Sony got Koei-Tecmo on board fairly early with musou ports (Dynasty Warriors 8 XL; Warriors Orochi 3) and that's meant we've gotten things like Berserk last year and Musou Stars this year, just because the engine and all the framework is all already set up.

Of course, a lot of it comes down to third parties who were always going to be on board with the console regardless. Acquire/Compile Heart/Falcom/Gust etc. were on board regardless, but again a lot of them use frameworks that favor Vita development/porting (i.e. Phyreengine).

Although, if this interview is to believed, Compile Heart almost gave up on Vita until they saw Soul Sacrifice, which is a strange series of events.

 

[The Incarnation]

Whoopz, wrong thread.

 

[Ōkami]

MARKET VALUE - Millions Yen

+-------+------------+------------+
|       |  This CY   |  Last CY   |
+-------+------------+------------+
|  H-W  |    117.050 |    130.050 |
|  S-W  |    182.430 |    190.910 |
|  TOT  |    299.480 |    320.970 |
+-------+------------+------------+

We're back to pre Famicom boom levels, 2016 has the lowest market value since 1987.

This obviously doesn't account for digital and as people who have been following old sales know that the older the data is the less accurate is gets, so this isn't without a doubt 100% accurate nor does it tell the whole picture, nonetheless this is not a positive outlook by any means either.

For the sake of Japan Switch needs to be succesfull and PS4 needs to be more succesful.

 

[ZSaberLink]

Dengeki Online Sales: Week 51, 2016 (Dec 19 - Dec 25)

01./02. [3DS] Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS (Nintendo) {2016.12.01} - 293,211 / 706,545
02./01. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sukiyaki (Level 5) {2016.12.15} - 194,865 / 518,970
03./03. [3DS] Pokemon Sun (Pokemon Co.) {2016.11.18} - 156,182 / 1,490,799
04./00. [3DS] Momotaro Dentetsu 2017: Tachiagare Nippon!! (Nintendo) {2016.12.22} - 131,972 / NEW
05./04. [3DS] Pokemon Moon (Pokemon Co.) {2016.11.18} - 127,489 / 1,364,841
06./09. [3DS] Miitopia (Nintendo) {2016.12.08} - 52,537 / 109,048
07./10. [PSV] Minecraft: Playstation Vita Edition (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2015.03.19} - 40,278 / 984,122
08./07. [PS4] Final Fantasy XV (Square Enix) {2016.11.29} - 36,183 / 845,261
09./06. [PS4] Yakuza 6: The Song of Life (Sega) {2016.12.08} - 34,900 / 300,788
10./08. [3DS] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball Heroes (KONAMI) {2016.12.15} - 29,460 / 60,592
11./15. [WIU] Minecraft: Wii U Edition (Microsoft Game Studios) {2016.06.23} - 29,100 / 242,824
12./12. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Mura o Tsukurundesu (Nippon Columbia) {2016.07.21} - 24,895 / 129,967
13./14. [3DS] Mario Party Star Rush (Nintendo) {2016.10.20} - 24,872 / 127,264
14./16. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - Welcome amiibo (Nintendo) {2016.11.23} - 21,495 / 70,057
15./00. [3DS] Osomatsu-San: Matsu Matsuri! (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.12.22} - 18,450 / NEW
16./11. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sushi / Tempura - Busters T-Pack {Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sushi \ Yo-Kai Watch 3: Tempura} (Level 5) {2016.12.15} - 17,044 / 33,382
17./22. [WIU] Super Mario Maker (Nintendo) {2015.09.10} - 15,539 / 979,872
18./05. [PSV] SaGa: Scarlet Grace (Square Enix) {2016.12.15} - 15,300 / 76,531
19./20. [WIU] Splatoon (Nintendo) {2015.05.28} - 15,161 / 1,485,118
20./21. [3DS] Monster Hunter Stories (Capcom) {2016.10.08} - 14,656 / 304,535
21./19. [3DS] Kirby: Planet Robobot (Nintendo) {2016.04.28} - 14,583 / 481,108
22./00. [PSV] Ken ga Kimi: Momoyo Tsuzuri (Rejet) {2016.12.22} - 13,233 / NEW
23./24. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} - 12,700 / 2,583,159
24./13. [PS4] The Last Guardian (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2016.12.06} - 12,319 / 96,519
25./23. [3DS] PriPara Mezameyo! Megami no Dress Design (Takara Tomy) {2016.11.10} - 11,244 / 56,294
26./00. [PSV] Harukanaru Toki no Naka de 6: Gentou Rondo (Koei Tecmo) {2016.12.22} - 11,431 / NEW
27./25. [3DS] Dragon Ball: Fusions (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.08.04} - 10,806 / 216,502
28./27. [WIU] Paper Mario: Color Splash (Nintendo) {2016.10.13} - 10,439 / 69,169
29./18. [3DS] Beyblade Burst (FuRyu) {2016.11.10} - 10,294 / 50,761
30./00. [PSV] Touhou Genso Wanderer Tod: Reloaded (Mediascape) {2016.12.22} - 10,193 / NEW
30./17. [PS4] Watch Dogs 2 (Ubisoft) {2016.12.01} - 10,188 / 80,846
32./31. [3DS] Super Battle For Money Sentouchuu: Kyuukyoku no Shinobu to Battle Player Choujou Kessen! (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.09.15} - 9,611 / 54,436
33./40. [WIU] Mario Kart 8 (Nintendo) {2014.05.29} - 8,617 / 1,237,264
34./32. [3DS] 12-Sai. Koisuru Diary (Happinet) {2016.08.03} - 8,461 / 58,492
35./35. [PS4] Minecraft: Playstation 4 Edition (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2015.12.03} - 8,433 / 151,135
36./28. [3DS] All Kamen Rider: Rider Revolution (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.12.01} - 8,428 / 41,199
37./43. [PS4] Winning Eleven 2017 (KONAMI) {2016.09.15} - 7,956 / 110,477
38./44. [PS4] Dragonball Xenoverse 2 (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.11.02} - 7,589 / 101,571
39./41. [PS4] Grand Theft Auto V (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2015.10.08} - 7,567 / 181,418
40./39. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} - 7,489 / 2,368,244
41./26. [3DS] Aikatsu Stars! My Special Appeal (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.11.24} - 7,461 / 30,066
42./34. [3DS] Disney Magic World 2 (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.11.05} - 7,383 / 351,974
43./57. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games (Nintendo) {2016.02.18} - 7,289 / 259,163
44./48. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Don Don! Mystery Adventure (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.06.16} - 7,228 / 118,167
45./42. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sushi (Level 5) {2016.07.16} - 7,089 / 668,914
46./55. [WIU] Super Smash Bros. for Wii U (Nintendo) {2014.12.06} - 7,083 / 808,504
47./45. [3DS] Tomodachi Life [Nintendo Selects] (Nintendo) {2016.03.17} - 6,561 / 77,769
48./36. [3DS] Monster Strike (Mixi) {2015.12.17} - 6,522 / 963,188
49./29. [PS4] Battlefield 1 (Electronic Arts) {2016.10.21} - 6,500 / 238,613
50./49. [3DS] Puzzle & Dragons X: God Chapter (GungHo Online Entertainment) {2016.07.28} - 6,389 / 119,731

SOFTWARE

--------------------------------------------------------
| Model | This Week | Week(%)  | FY 2016     | FY(%)   |
--------------------------------------------------------
| 3DS   | 1,426,480 | 73.4%    | 11,927,681  | 50.2%   |
| PS4   | 229,545   | 11.8%    | 6,418,948   | 27.0%   |
| Vita  | 154,747   | 8.0%     | 3,040,473   | 12.8%   |
| Wii U | 120,807   | 6.2%     | 1,304,741   | 5.5%    |
| PS3   | 12,152    | 0.6%     | 1,049,115   | 4.4%    |
| X One | 652       | 0.1%     | 33,924      | 0.1%    |
--------------------------------------------------------
| Total | 1,944,383 | 100.0%   | 23,774,882  | 100.0%  |
--------------------------------------------------------

HARDWARE

--------------------------------------------------------
| Model | This Week | Week(%)  | FY 2016     | FY(%)   |
--------------------------------------------------------
| 3DS   | 155,485   | 40.0%    | 1,233,328   | 34.1%   |
| PS4   | 107,454   | 27.7%    | 1,374,925   | 38.0%   |
| 2DS   | 59,940    | 15.4%    | 273,360     | 7.6%    |
| Vita  | 55,533    | 14.3%    | 512,749     | 14.2%   |
| Wii U | 7,991     | 2.1%     | 181,109     | 5.0%    |
| PS3   | 1,195     | 0.3%     | 33,054      | 0.9%    |
| X One | 753       | 0.2%     | 5,121       | 0.1%    |
--------------------------------------------------------
| Total | 388,351   | 100.0%   | 3,613,646   | 100.0%  |
--------------------------------------------------------

*FY 2016 refers to the period from April 1, 2016 through March 31, 2017

Dengeki Online Sales: Week 50, 2016 (Dec 12 - Dec 18)

Dengeki Sales Archive
2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014

 

[hanspampel]

We're back to pre Famicom boom levels, 2016 has the lowest market value since 1987.

This obviously doesn't account for digital and as people who have been following old sales know that the older the data is the less accurate is gets, so this isn't without a doubt 100% accurate nor does it tell the whole picture, nonetheless this is not a positive outlook by any means either.

For the sake of Japan Switch needs to be succesfull and PS4 needs to be more succesful.

factor in inflation and this is even more sad
or had japan deflation the last couple years?

 

[Man God]

Sony has done jack nothing in Japan outside of Minecraft for the Vita. Honestly they've done quite a bit more for it in Europe and North America. Stepping in for Minecraft was frankly enough.

 

[casiopao]

We're back to pre Famicom boom levels, 2016 has the lowest market value since 1987.

This obviously doesn't account for digital and as people who have been following old sales know that the older the data is the less accurate is gets, so this isn't without a doubt 100% accurate nor does it tell the whole picture, nonetheless this is not a positive outlook by any means either.

For the sake of Japan Switch needs to be succesfull and PS4 needs to be more succesful.

End of an Era and the rise of new Overlord.^^ Well, Jp mobile gaming is going to be my new King so i am A okay with that too actually.^^

Hortensia Saga Saikyouuu.^^

 

[vaporeon]

Attempting this for the first time!


PREDICTION LEAGUE JANUARY 2017!

[PS4] Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue (18 days) - 120k
[PSV - PS4] Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony (18 days) - 98k
[PS4] Gravity Rush 2 (11 days) - 44k
[3DS] Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World (11 days) - 50k
[PS4 - PSV] Valkyria Revolution (11 days) - 69k
[PS4] Resident Evil 7: biohazard (6 days) - 250k

 

[Busaiku]

factor in inflation and this is even more sad
or had japan deflation the last couple years?

The gaming market is bigger now than it ever was before.
The death of consoles is not indicative of the market at large.

 

[hiska-kun]

factor in inflation and this is even more sad
or had japan deflation the last couple years?

Japan has been in deflation for almost two decades.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

Well, let's do this.


PREDICTION LEAGUE JANUARY 2017!

[PS4] Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue (18 days) - 100k
[PSV - PS4] Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony (18 days) - 87k
[PS4] Gravity Rush 2 (11 days) - 55k
[3DS] Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World (11 days) - 44k
[PS4 - PSV] Valkyria Revolution (11 days) - 52k
[PS4] Resident Evil 7: biohazard (6 days) - 218k

 

[DriftingSpirit]

We're back to pre Famicom boom levels, 2016 has the lowest market value since 1987.

This obviously doesn't account for digital and as people who have been following old sales know that the older the data is the less accurate is gets, so this isn't without a doubt 100% accurate nor does it tell the whole picture, nonetheless this is not a positive outlook by any means either.

For the sake of Japan Switch needs to be succesfull and PS4 needs to be more succesful.

Yeah, hopefully there is some sort of notable upward swing. This isn't good for software/hardware releases no matter how you slice it.

 

[antibolo]

I just hope the Vita 3rd parties will move to the Switch and won't just disappear from the console space once the Vita will be gone for good.

 

[duckroll]

I just hope the Vita 3rd parties will move to the Switch and won't just disappear from the console space once the Vita will be gone for good.

The question isn't whether Vita 3rd parties will move to the Switch, the question is whether people buying Vita games today will want to do the same with the Switch.

 

[Chris1964]

I'm not sure you're understanding at all. The amount of third party support for Vita is amazing considering the failure of the system, the fact that it's direct competitor is so dominant and the fact that Sony themselves dropped the system two years ago. That is what is being praised.

If you want to praise someone for the amount of third party Vita gets it's not Sony but consumers that insist to buy software for the system for the simple reason that this is Japan and Vita is a handheld.

 

[hanspampel]

The gaming market is bigger now than it ever was before.
The death of consoles is not indicative of the market at large.

Yeah, I know that.
Thanks mobile gaming

Japan has been in deflation for almost two decades.

Ty, I just wasn't aware if that was / is still a recent thing. Japanese economy is not my stronghold. That's why I asked

 

[antibolo]

The question isn't whether Vita 3rd parties will move to the Switch, the question is whether people buying Vita games today will want to do the same with the Switch.

Well, that goes hand in hand.

 

[L~A]

So, looks like new data will be available at 10PM JST as "usual", huh. Thought it'd be earlier in the day, since it's not on the usual day (Wednesday).

Oh, Famitsu data for December is out, but I'll let Chris do the usual chart.

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201701/06124359.html

 

[Oregano]

If you want to praise someone for the amount of third party Vita gets it's not Sony but consumers that insist to buy software for the system for the simple reason that this is Japan and Vita is a handheld.

True but there is a chicken and egg element. The Vita audience remained engaged because of the amount of content that was released.

Well, that goes hand in hand.

Yup, Vita owners won't upgrade to Switch because Switch won't get all the Vita games. If I'm a Vita fan whose been playing God Eater, Toukiden, Senran Kagura, Trails, Atelier and Neptunia then Switch might not be too appealing to me because it's only getting one of two of those franchises.

The failure of Kenka Bancho shows what happens when you haven't got that synergy with other software on a platform.

 

[casiopao]

If you want to praise someone for the amount of third party Vita gets it's not Sony but consumers that insist to buy software for the system for the simple reason that this is Japan and Vita is a handheld.

I totally agreed with you there. Sony had been quite transparent on their attempt to kill Vita. However as Vita keep selling in Japan and the owner of the platform actually keep buying game on the platform, Vita actually stay kinda alive till now.

If the fans at that time just do Wii U treatment toward Vita, it will be more or less over.

The question isn't whether Vita 3rd parties will move to the Switch, the question is whether people buying Vita games today will want to do the same with the Switch.

I actually feel that Vita is more inline with more hardcore gamer so they are more or less going to get a Switch there.

It is the 20 million 3DS owner which i am afraid on whether they will show up or not for Switch.I don't even dare to imagine how many of those 20 million is more or less happy with Mobile right now and don't think it is a need to get a Switch this time.(Nintendo really need to get more mobile game into Switch too this time so, people can use Switch to play their mobile games too.)

 

[Chris1964]

Famitsu Sales: Dec 2016 (Nov 28 - Dec 25)

01./01. [3DS] Pokemon Sun / Moon # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.11.18} (¥4.980) - 918.769 / 3.246.222 (-61%)
02./00. [PS4] Final Fantasy XV # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2016.11.29} (¥8.800) - 860.127 / NEW
03./00. [3DS] Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS <ACT> (Nintendo) {2016.12.01} (¥4.700) - 743.388 / NEW
04./00. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sukiyaki <RPG> (Level 5) {2016.12.15} (¥4.800) - 509.667 / NEW
05./00. [PS4] Yakuza 6: The Song of Life # <ADV> (Sega) {2016.12.08} (¥8.190) - 288.847 / NEW

Top 5

3DS - 3
PS4 - 2


SOFTWARE

Nintendo - 1.482.000
Square Enix - 982.000
Pokemon Co. - 929.000

HARDWARE

Famicom Mini - 247.000 / 567.000

+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|System | This Month | Last Month |  Last Year |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| 3DS # |    492.298 |    241.757 |    503.619 |  1.874.457 |  2.189.900 |  21.911.413 |
| PS4 # |    397.607 |    204.015 |    184.619 |  1.790.883 |  1.205.163 |   3.921.616 |
| PSV # |    118.549 |     36.218 |    163.583 |    865.002 |    959.342 |   5.247.419 |
|  WIU  |     21.914 |     11.147 |    253.209 |    336.151 |    820.304 |   3.279.738 |
|  PS3  |      2.602 |      2.086 |      9.288 |     50.978 |    188.207 |  10.257.719 |
| XB1 # |      1.714 |      1.440 |      1.385 |      8.897 |     18.093 |      72.948 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|  ALL  |  1.034.684 |    496.663 |  1.115.703 |  4.926.368 |  5.381.009 |  44.690.853 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| XB1 S |        816 |        902 |            |      1.718 |            |       1.718 |
|  XB1  |        898 |        538 |      1.385 |      7.179 |     18.093 |      71.230 |
|PS4 Pro|     33.250 |     83.800 |            |    117.050 |            |     117.050 |
|  PS4  |    364.357 |    120.215 |    184.619 |  1.673.833 |  1.205.163 |   3.804.566 |
|  PSV  |    118.549 |     36.218 |    163.583 |    865.002 |    959.342 |   5.247.419 |
|  2DS  |    146.225 |     59.883 |            |    297.147 |            |     297.147 |
| n-3DS |    345.188 |    180.961 |    476.449 |  1.525.716 |  1.968.925 |   4.693.989 |
|  3DS  |        885 |        913 |     27.170 |     51.594 |    220.975 |  16.920.277 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+

 

[hiska-kun]

The blog

PS4 > N3DSLL > Vita > 2DS > Pro > N3DS > the rest

 

[Inuhanyou]

PS4 doing well still hardware wise...400k in just December alone?

 

[Chris1964]

This is Sony's week, PS4 and Vita will have better holds than 3DS and Wii U (whoever still buy them).