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Media Create Sales: Week 52, 2011 {2011.12.26 - 2012.01.01}
- Thread starter Mpl90
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LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Wait for the Ramen Noodle promotion in conjunction with Nisin.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
Since we're doing the kicking people when they're down thing, seems like Kinect had absolutely zero impact on Japanese 360 sales over the last year, which really makes me question why MS would contract Japanese developers to make titles for the thing, and if there is any future whatsoever for the XBox brand in Japan.
UncleSporky
Member
Because people in other territories buy a lot of Japanese games. For example, if they got the Japanese company Square-Enix to make a Final Fantasy Kinect, you'd think sales would be pretty good overseas.
Unless you're saying they got some Japanese devs making games that are not intended to be localized ever.
No one is going to buy the Japanese Kinect games anywhere, lol.
We're talking about things like Project Draco and stuff.
Souldriver
Member
Vita 
I hope the Western launch is spectacular ...
I hope the Western launch is spectacular ...
Kinect sales in Europe (with the exception of the UK) aren't that great either.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I planned on using that term dammit!
- The Playstation Family enters the new year with tremendous momentum as Sony flagship franchises and third party content continue lighting up the sales charts.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
- Microsoft is 100% commited to the Japanese market, as more Japanese consumers are purchasing Xbox 360 over Intellivision.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
still costs more than 3ds, too, lol.
That's a one year old article. Its sales aren't anything special now.
Cygnus X-1
Member
Bad year for Japan overall. Software looks particularly bad. Without the final rush of Christmas, there would have been only a single million seller, i.e. MHP3. And barely surpassing the single million mark.
Oh, and about the hardware: it is pretty interesting how the console market became inconsistent in Japan.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Getting off topic, but do you have more up to date figures for any territories? I know we recently had that thread where everyone assumed that no Kinect news was automatically bad news, but MS issued a press release soon afterward and it seems that Kinect was not, in fact, doomed.
Cosmonaut X
Member
From what little I've been able to glean, it seems as though the US and UK took to the device (the US moreso) wholeheartedly whereas other territories had an initial flirtation before seeing sales drop off. Will be very interested to see some hard figures for worldwide shipments/sales sometime soon...
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
I don't know if anyone can answer this, but I imported FFX-2 back in the day and I remember it being less expensive than a standard full-price PS2 game. Question is, did it launch at a standard price in Japan or was it slightly reduced?
I got it pretty early, so I don't think it was bomba-binned, and I most definitely paid less than my other imports...
Point being I'm wondering why SE didn't try something similar with XIII-2, especially considering how *ahem* mixed its public reception was compared to X's largely very positive one.
I got it pretty early, so I don't think it was bomba-binned, and I most definitely paid less than my other imports...
Point being I'm wondering why SE didn't try something similar with XIII-2, especially considering how *ahem* mixed its public reception was compared to X's largely very positive one.
Cygnus X-1
Member
Which is more or less what we can reasonably expect at this point. Again, Vita being d00med is some shit fans keep writing, but with which I remain very unconvinced. I still remember PSP back in 2004-2006 and before MHP1 and especially MHP2 and 2G its software sales were very weak. But since its hardware kept selling slowly, but constantly, the moment a good game with massive appeal came out, a good portion of such audience was moved. It's possible the same thing could happen with Vita.
The time in which the first 6 months made a console a success or a failure is completely over.
sixteen-bit
Member
PSP outselling Vita again?
I pre-ordered FFX-2 at Amazon for 6630 yen, still have the bill. Amazon discounts games from the start though, around the same prices as convenience stores. It definitely was cheaper than X but so was XIII-2. Around 1000 yen less, to offset lower development cost. Also less FMVs, for X-2 at least.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
X retailed for 8800 yen, X-2 retailed for 7800 yen, Crystal Chronicles 6800 yen, XII 8990 yen, XIII 9240 yen, XIII-2 7980 yen. All prices were MSRP, as extralite notes, there's some flexibility there.
Revenue for 2011:
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TOTAL ALL SOFT CONSOLE SOFT PC/ENT. SOFT CONSOLE HARD ALL ACCESS.
UK $3,913 (-13%) $2,205 $2,096 $109 $1,003 $703
JAPAN $5,907 (-8%) $0 $3,570 $0 $2,337 $0
Millions of USD; Chart-Track (UK); Famitsu (JP); 1 JPY = 0.013 USD; 1 GBP = 1.5529 USD.No precise information on software units yet, only hardware + console units were 59.6 million in the UK (including PC software) while no info for Japan.
And the prices for XIII(-2), to be complete:
Final Fantasy XIII ￥ 9,240
Final Fantasy XIII-2 ￥ 7,980
So it was reduced even more compared to the X series.
Edit: Actual prices I bought the games for at Amazon:
XIII 7387 yen, pre-order
XIII-2 6180 yen, a few days ago
Check out last year's numbers for PSP and then look at this year's PSP+Vita number. Then go back and do it for last week also. Pretty darn close, no? I don't know if it''s especially relevant but I do find it fascinating.
Also, apologies if anyone else already pointed this out. I'm working and did not read all the replies.
Also, apologies if anyone else already pointed this out. I'm working and did not read all the replies.
I wonder when Vita will chart above 3DS. Will it happen this year? Knowing whether or not that MH rumour is true will help to predict. I can't see 3DS reducing to tremendously low numbers for a while to come, whereas it appears that Vita will soon be floating in the 10 - 20k region.
Cosmonaut X
Member
I've been seeing kind of comment a lot recently (surprisingly) and while I think it's accurate insofar as describing what happened with the PSP, it's a bit like the "well, look how 3DS has done since its price-cut/big-game announcements" comments.
Yes, Vita could get a breakout game like MHP/2 that galvanises the userbase and fuels hardware sales, leading to the kind of virtuous circle of increased hardware sales and increased software sales that gave the PSP its "rebirth". Yes, the Vita could see a swingeing pricecut and a raft of big new game announcements to bolster it going into the second half of 2012.
However, there's no indication of either happening at the moment. It's too early to say the system is "doomed", but it's certainly time to say that the market appears to be responding in the same way it did to the initial 3DS offering and that that isn't a great place to be in.
The people slamming the system hard with the (serious) doomed comments are being foolish, but there is a point to the concerns about the system's immediate future - and the market has become a lot tougher since the PSP hit, so I don't think there is quite the leeway that system had to coast for a while.
NeonZ
Member
But that's because the PSP kept getting a fairly consistent stream of titles even during the low sales period and, even then, it was a single title that turned around its fortunes in Japan. The Vita isn't really guaranteed to get a consistent stream of titles for such a long time or even a break out hit.
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
Wrapping up, December predictions:
Congratulations to Road for winning the ranking by units and by points/percentages.
Past Predictions Results:
12/12-12/18 Predictions Results
12/05-12/11 Predictions Results
11/28-12/04 Predictions Results
Prediction League Results 2009-2010
2011 and updated 2009-2011 results incoming.
Congratulations to Road for winning the ranking by units and by points/percentages.
Code:
Results By Units By Points
1 723334 Road 108,04% Road
2 795558 LOCK 112,75% LOCK
3 821124 lunchwithyuzo 123,11% lunchwithyuzo
4 938216 Mpl90 124,84% frankie_baby
5 955218 starship 125,44% Kurosaki Ichigo
6 966524 frankie_baby 128,95% Yeshua
7 983470 Yeshua 135,80% Mpl90
8 984464 Kurosaki Ichigo 138,96% zomgbbqftw
9 994464 Orgen 140,69% Orgen
10 1003470 thestopsign 144,97% starship
11 1114804 miladesn 157,83% miladesn
12 1174804 zomgbbqftw 157,94% thestopsign
13 1195006 cw_sasuke 158,66% Truth101
14 1205241 Chris1964 172,08% Chris1964
15 1207748 Truth101 173,40% cw_sasuke
16 1439006 Kenka 176,80% Kenka
17 1496212 donny2112 200,54% BurntPork
18 1550218 BurntPork 209,24% FINALFANTASYDOG
19 1644340 FINALFANTASYDOG 218,18% donny2112
20 1682006 Celine 227,74% Celine
21 1949665 duckroll 249,68% duckroll
22 2024804 ULTROS! 267,70% M_Night
23 2095006 M_Night 277,75% ULTROS!
24 2204464 Spiegel 303,14% Spiegel
** 1340446 *saichi 169,02% *saichi
* missed deadline
December Sales Mpl90 Kenka Spieg lunch M_Nig Celin ULTRO donny stars LOCK Truth Burnt Orgen Yeshu Chris Road thest Kuro cw_sa duckr frank milad zomgb FINAL *saic
3DS Hardware 1604126 1675344 1211000 1500000 1456789 1300000 1555000 1000000 1700000 1700000 1700000 1900000 1700000 1565000 1500000 1678901 1666666 1600000 1452000 1550000 2005156 1700000 1537000 1400000 1211000 1999999
3DS Mario Land 519232 405943 711000 500000 456789 600000 777000 450000 500000 440000 400000 600000 300000 490000 450000 456789 444444 430000 422000 600000 505259 390000 473000 450000 534000 399999
3DS MarioKart7 1160170 1290687 1211000 2000000 1234567 1800000 1777000 1100000 1350000 1200000 1100000 1300000 1700000 1375000 1500000 1456789 1111111 1200000 1232000 1400000 954965 800000 1100000 900000 999000 1234567
3DS MH Tri G 985497 1230340 1211000 900000 987654 1100000 1111000 750000 900000 1200000 1100000 900000 1200000 930000 1000000 987654 999999 1200000 872000 1000000 1255365 950000 830000 950000 654000 1102239
PS3 FFXIII-2 704235 851340 1211000 1300000 1012345 1300000 1111000 1200000 1500000 950000 1000000 1100000 1000000 1180000 1000000 1234567 1111111 1100000 1237000 1300000 1453555 930000 1347000 1300000 1111000 1185294
PSV Hardware 439986 671230 511000 1000000 666666 800000 666000 1000000 750000 720000 550000 650000 625000 620000 600000 678901 555555 700000 457000 650000 750255 320000 583000 450000 777000 593128
Difference 0 938216 1439006 2204464 821124 2095006 1682006 2024804 1496212 955218 795558 1207748 1550218 994464 983470 1205241 723334 1003470 984464 1195006 1949665 966524 1114804 1174804 1644340 1340446
Difference (%) 0,00% 135,80% 176,80% 303,14% 123,11% 267,70% 227,74% 277,75% 218,18% 144,97% 112,75% 158,66% 200,54% 140,69% 128,95% 172,08% 108,04% 157,94% 125,44% 173,40% 249,68% 124,84% 157,83% 138,96% 209,24% 169,02%
3DS Hardware 0 71218 -393126 -104126 -147337 -304126 -49126 -604126 95874 95874 95874 295874 95874 -39126 -104126 74775 62540 -4126 -152126 -54126 401030 95874 -67126 -204126 -393126 395873
3DS Mario Land 0 -113289 191768 -19232 -62443 80768 257768 -69232 -19232 -79232 -119232 80768 -219232 -29232 -69232 -62443 -74788 -89232 -97232 80768 -13973 -129232 -46232 -69232 14768 -119233
3DS MarioKart7 0 130517 50830 839830 74397 639830 616830 -60170 189830 39830 -60170 139830 539830 214830 339830 296619 -49059 39830 71830 239830 -205205 -360170 -60170 -260170 -161170 74397
3DS MH Tri G 0 244843 225503 -85497 2157 114503 125503 -235497 -85497 214503 114503 -85497 214503 -55497 14503 2157 14502 214503 -113497 14503 269868 -35497 -155497 -35497 -331497 116742
PS3 FFXIII-2 0 147105 506765 595765 308110 595765 406765 495765 795765 245765 295765 395765 295765 475765 295765 530332 406876 395765 532765 595765 749320 225765 642765 595765 406765 481059
PSV Hardware 0 231244 71014 560014 226680 360014 226014 560014 310014 280014 110014 210014 185014 180014 160014 238915 115569 260014 17014 210014 310269 -119986 143014 10014 337014 15314212/12-12/18 Predictions Results
12/05-12/11 Predictions Results
11/28-12/04 Predictions Results
Prediction League Results 2009-2010
2011 and updated 2009-2011 results incoming.
slaughterking
Member
You are right, but most people make pretty reasonable long-term assumptions based on what we know about the Vita's future line-up and it's simply not looking very good at all. And people said it before: The 3DS started quite a bit stronger than the Vita and didn't have such a shaky outlook.
People are going to predict as long as they have enough free time to fritter away on GAF and the like. Doesn't matter how long (or short in this case) the system/game/whatever has been out.
yurinka
Member
Considering Vita and 3DS are selling at loss, this week only Sony is making money selling portable HW?
Looks like thanks to Mario, MK and MH Nintendo users jumped to the next gen, while Sony previous gen system is still alive.
It sounds like when PS3 was launched, not performing really well but with PS2 still alive while the competion had their previous gen systems already dead.
3DS now has these 3 games, so will continue up there for certain time. Vita has upcoming games like SFxT, FFXHD, MGSHD collection that may show good numbers, but are basically multiplatform / ports.
If the rumored MH is true and isn't just a spinoff with the MH cats, a MH3G direct port or MHP3rdHD, then Vita can be above 3DS. I assume something like MHP4th, or MH3GHD with some extra missions and monsters not being released in 3DS too, or Sony stealing MH4.
Cosmonaut X
Member
Wow! Even the most pessimistic FFXIII-2 prediction was 150k over its actual sales :-D
isnt the difference thought that everyone knew Nintendo had software to come which were gurantee system sellers.
UncleSporky
Member
Unknown. Assumed by many, but still unknown, I'm pretty sure.
Yeah, hindsight is 20/20. I can't believe I thought it would sell that much (I should have not ignored COMGNET).
And I remember was this close to putting Vita at 444,444, which would be basically a perfect prediction, but I thought it would be too low. Little did I know.
Thanks for all the work, K.Ichigo!
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
So how many weeks until Vita sells out it's launch shipment? Can it squeeze by in 5 or are we going to 6-7?
PSP never sold below 10k a week, so if that were to happen to Vita it would be a disaster.
At least the PS3 could count on reasonably robust third-party support because of the Wii's failings in that area.