Media Create Sales: Week 52, 2012 (Dec 24 - Dec 30)

Told you it would go under 100k, I was just a week off...forgot it was Christmas last week. 76k is lower than I expected, I was thinking just barely under 100k, like 90k.
Let me make a prediction, too: 3DS will go under 100k. Next week or any week later than next week :).
 
Don't think so. Mario and Luigi had a much wider audience and were very story based.
Paper Mario is just an entirely different type of game.
They are also targetting the intersection of Mario fans, handheld players and rpg fans, so I agree that there might be a big overlap in audience.
 
Fantasy Life is only 7 on the eShop where-as Animal Crossing is still 1 so I doubt it'll come close to matching ACs digital sales, even the ratio.
but when you see the price of Fantasy Life on the eshop (5980 yen when AC costs 4800 yen), it's normal to be only 7th..

I'm waiting for a little discount frrom level 5 and I'll buy it.

I love watching Tousouchu ;o) Original show but the game must be crappy
 
Paper Mario series:

[N64] Paper Mario (Nintendo) {2000.08.11} - 118.322 / 425.609
[GCN] Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door (Nintendo) {2004.07.22} - 137.750 / 398.218
[Wii] Super Paper Mario (Nintendo) {2007.04.19} - 156.055 / 505.491
[3DS] Paper Mario: Sticker Star (Nintendo) {2012.12.06} - 130.009 / 391.078
Might be worth including the Mario & Luigi games for comparison as well, owing to the fact that although they're distinct from Paper Mario, they might represent a slightly closer match for a 3DS Paper Mario than the console Paper Mario games do.
The last entry in Mario & Luigi series sold comfortably more than any Paper Mario title. But overall, we can say that both franchises have very similar sales.

[GBA] Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (Nintendo) {2003.11.21} - 63.839 / 438.781
[NDS] Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time (Nintendo) {2005.12.29} - 133.229 / 417.391
[NDS] Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story (Nintendo) {2009.02.11} - 220.055 / 745.701
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
if Vita will be really able to spin it's destiny around with the new bunch of software incoming in Feb-March and maybe a price cut, could be. especially if Wii U will have no release in those two months.
I still think that they'll release at least Game & Wario and Fit U in Feb-March, with DQX and Pikmin 3 for April
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
By significant titles, do you mean system sellers? Because I don't really see one. Although I do see a few that will easily sell 100k+.
Good question.
I don't know, I think that could be defined "significant" titles those games that, also not being proper system sellers (I don't know if there will be other real system sellers on the PS3 in Japan now on) could help the console in keeping good weekly sales.

What about Wonderful 101?
We don't have yet a release date for it, haven't we?
I don't know. Outside Japan it was a launch-window game, but maybe not in Japan. But btw I don't see it as a title that can help the hw sales.
Of course, also Game&Wario and FitU are full of doubts about their performances, but at least we can say that previous entries in those franchises (I'm comparing Game&Wario to the previous Wario Ware games) did at least numbers that could affect positevly the HW performances also if the new episodes will be way less significant.
 
Man, I'm eating crow on Inazuma Eleven. I expected this franchise to be in the grave, and instead we're seeing signs of a rebound. If I was a fan of that franchise I would tell Level-5 to fuck off with three separate releases within a few weeks though.
 

Fafalada

Fafracer forever
Aostia said:
I think that PS3 could be higher than Wii U next week
Well I saw PS3 and Vita on sale (18000 yen each) in Softmap from 1st, no idea how widespread that was though. Do retailers usually do global discounts on that week?
 
Am I correct:
AC New Leaf numbers includes hardware bundles, but not eShop and download card sales?
If so, how many digital sales should we had? Around 5% by being conservative?
 
Am I correct:
AC New Leaf numbers includes hardware bundles, but not eShop and download card sales?
If so, how many digital sales should we had? Around 5% by being conservative?
Famitsu counts the digital download cards which is why there is nearly a 500k difference between mediacreate and famitsu. No tracker counts copies sold directly through the eshop though.
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
Am I correct:
AC New Leaf numbers includes hardware bundles, but not eShop and download card sales?
If so, how many digital sales should we had? Around 5% by being conservative?
I don't remember if is Famitsu including the dd cards sold at retailers, or MC ;(
Btw in any case we don't see the direct download from the eshop in those numbers.
what we know is that AC sold more or less 500k (am I right?) of DD copies, but including both cards and direct downloads. reading the differences between MC and Famitus we could know more or less the numbers of download cards sold at retailers.

Man, I'm eating crow on Inazuma Eleven. I expected this franchise to be in the grave, and instead we're seeing signs of a rebound. If I was a fan of that franchise I would tell Level-5 to fuck off with three separate releases within a few weeks though.

yes, no sense at all in selling three games of the same franchise within such a limited time period.
and despite that the real new game is performing well: probably they somehow HAD to put out the third iteration of the Striker spinoff series, while the collection doesn't make sense at all in Japan (it would be smart to sell the 3rd episode both for DS and 3DS in PAL territories instead, exploiting the work done for this 3ds collection)
 
The Wii U is behaving typical for this particular week. Next week numbers are more important in accessing legs.

As I suspected, the placement of the calendar made Week 52 bigger than normal and Week 51 slightly smaller. Week 1 numbers will be interesting.
 
3DS is continuing to dominate the japanese market.
Wii U at this rate could fall behind PS3 in weekly sales during January (and there were people thinking that PS3 sales would nosedive because of WiiU). It's not doing really well, still far from a disaster but the sales pattern is not good.
 
What do you mean? Last week was the big holiday week, all the numbers were up. It was a dumb prediction to think it would go under 100k in a week like that, which I hadn't thought of at the time.
I don't think you're winning any friends here with self-congratulatory statements over predictions you made that were wrong again and again and again.
 
Wii U doesn't seem to perform up to DragonSworne's predictions. How surprising.

I think it's interesting that PS3 went up (even if just slightly) without any releases. There wasn't a new color/bundle was there?
 
MH3U's back!

Launch aligned comparisons:

Xbox 360: 10,035 (94,525)
Dead or Alive 4: 62,603 (62,603)
Ridge Racer 6: 2,280 (41,045)
Dynasty Warriors 5 Special: 2,059 (7,806)

PlayStation 3: 30,467 (199,549)
Ridge Racer 7: 6,909 (60,379)
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire: 6,147 (58,526)
Resistance: Fall of Man: 5,662 (37,705)

Wii: 203,079 (786,039)
Wii Sports: 142,157 (456,731)
Wii Play: 126,161 (421,182)
Pokémon Battle Revolution: 51,982 (112,292)

Wii U: 76,760 (638,339)
New Super Nario Bros. U: 56,321 (381,315)
Nintendo Land: 40,570 (214,374)
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate: 14,494 (166,908)


Year aligned comparisons:

Xbox 360: 10,035 (94,525) 4 weeks
Dead or Alive 4: 62,603 (62,603)
Ridge Racer 6: 2,280 (41,045)
Dynasty Warriors 5 Special: 2,059 (7,806)

PlayStation 3: 76,507 (466,716) 8 weeks
Formula 1 Championship Edition: 12,764 (12,764)
Ridge Racer 7: 12,694 (98,616)
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire: 12,150 (96,714)

Wii: 203,079 (989,118) 5 weeks
Wii Sports: 96,438 (553,214)
Wii Play: 82,003 (503,185)
Wario Ware: Smooth Moves: 40,263 (196,766)

Wii U: 76,760 (638,339) 4 weeks
New Super Nario Bros. U: 56,321 (381,315)
Nintendo Land: 40,570 (214,374)
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate: 14,494 (166,908)
 
I don't think you're winning any friends here with self-congratulatory statements over predictions you made that were wrong again and again and again.
Like I said, I didn't realize it was a huge holiday week. Honestly. If I did I wouldn't have made that bet. It was a really stupid bet, didn't think it through.


Ah, the very man that I wanted to see.

Enjoy.
Oh man...
 
What did you expect?

They probably have to switch into beast mode again like they did with the 3DS and it's their own fault for many reasons. Those sales are not good and should be way better considering we're talking about Nintendo here.
you're not implying a price drop are you?
 
3DS is continuing to dominate the japanese market.
Wii U at this rate could fall behind PS3 in weekly sales during January (and there were people thinking that PS3 sales would nosedive because of WiiU). It's not doing really well, still far from a disaster but the sales pattern is not good.
I think it's almost a certainty that Wii U will start tracking lower than PS3 weekly starting in Jan or Feb. It's going to be very much like 3DS/PSP in early/mid 2011, where PSP sold more weekly and multiplatform games performed significantly better on it.
 
I think it's almost a certainty that Wii U will start tracking lower than PS3 weekly starting in Jan or Feb. It's going to be very much like 3DS/PSP in early/mid 2011, where PSP sold more weekly and multiplatform games performed significantly better on it.
They just need to announce more games. Too early for a price drop for Japan
 
First four weeks of Wii U hardware compared to other consoles:







By almost every measure, it's doing about average, although of course timing of launches has to be taken into account, and we can only really judge when we get a few months into 2013 and see where it settles.
 
They just need to announce more games. Too early for a price drop for Japan
how much more games do people really need? i don't understand everyones logic about it needing more titles. there are plenty of games that are worth playing especially for an, oh i dunno, a month and a half old console.
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
MH3U's back!

Launch aligned comparisons:

Xbox 360: 10,035 (94,525)
Dead or Alive 4: 62,603 (62,603)
Ridge Racer 6: 2,280 (41,045)
Dynasty Warriors 5 Special: 2,059 (7,806)

PlayStation 3: 30,467 (199,549)
Ridge Racer 7: 6,909 (60,379)
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire: 6,147 (58,526)
Resistance: Fall of Man: 5,662 (37,705)

Wii: 203,079 (786,039)
Wii Sports: 142,157 (456,731)
Wii Play: 126,161 (421,182)
Pokémon Battle Revolution: 51,982 (112,292)

Wii U: 76,760 (638,339)
New Super Nario Bros. U: 56,321 (381,315)
Nintendo Land: 40,570 (214,374)
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate: 14,494 (166,908)


Year aligned comparisons:

Xbox 360: 10,035 (94,525) 4 weeks
Dead or Alive 4: 62,603 (62,603)
Ridge Racer 6: 2,280 (41,045)
Dynasty Warriors 5 Special: 2,059 (7,806)

PlayStation 3: 76,507 (466,716) 8 weeks
Formula 1 Championship Edition: 12,764 (12,764)
Ridge Racer 7: 12,694 (98,616)
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire: 12,150 (96,714)

Wii: 203,079 (989,118) 5 weeks
Wii Sports: 96,438 (553,214)
Wii Play: 82,003 (503,185)
Wario Ware: Smooth Moves: 40,263 (196,766)

Wii U: 76,760 (638,339) 4 weeks
New Super Nario Bros. U: 56,321 (381,315)
Nintendo Land: 40,570 (214,374)
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate: 14,494 (166,908)




Very useful. should also put those "Nintedooomed" claims into perspective.
That said, this console (unlike thw Wii) needs constant software to perform well, of course.
 
Considering how much is selling and the completely unknown future support for the system, I can't see how Wii U can manage to improve. Considering it's already selling at a loss, a price drop is completely out of option now.
 
how much more games do people really need? i don't understand everyones logic about it needing more titles. there are plenty of games that are worth playing especially for an, oh i dunno, a month and a half old console.
I believe it just needs this one big title that isn't coming out until 2014 so fans can speculate about. While people like me and you feel mostly satisified about the near release schedule, there are some who don't feel like the current releases and schedule give them satisifaction. Its atkin to having unrealistic expectations and/or buying a console maybe they couldn't afford in the first place. You need this "reason" for the money you just forked over but didn't do research beforehand
 
That's what "everybody" said about the 3DS and Vita. Only one of those systems actually got the announcements, and only one of those is performing healthily.
And only one of those systems was a Nintendo system,... The company that actually made the hard choice (and correct one) to do what was needed to correct the situation.