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[theprodigy]

The bigger problem that the system has faced has simply been a dirge of compelling software post 2013. Its had very few big titles, the most recent being MH4U in the west... a year ago with N3DS.

Hey now, Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer did decently enough in Europe!

(and still lol at Fire Emblem having the biggest 3DS software first month in the US since Majora's Mask 3D)

 

[Vena]

Hey now, Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer did decently enough in Europe!

(and still lol at Fire Emblem having the biggest 3DS software first month in the US since Majora's Mask 3D)

No software is no software. /shrug

 

[Man God]

3DS might end up having a monster year in Japan if the next few months also brings MHXG. Add Stories and another full release Pokémon game to the mix and it'll make up for the lack of DQ XI, which should give 3DS another decent year next year!

 

[Ryng_tolu]

If 3DS won't have a successor this year, it will sell a lot better than i expect.

Way more than 1.5 million in 2016.

 

[Chris1964]

If they release the demo and the first trailer two weeks before the game's launch (lol), and the word of mouth from the demo is good, I can see pre-orders rising sharply by then. Implying that will be stock problems at launch because last time orders from shops won't be on time for producing more units.

If that happens quote me.

If there is demand the game will sell. S-E showed similar treatment to Joker 2 Pro. It came out after 3DS launch, it faced shortage problems for months.but in the end LTD was more than respectable.

 

[Ryng_tolu]

...Wait, one moment. On "COMG!" i noted that Zelda TP is on the chart with the limited edition alone.

...So, guess it has more SKUs?

 

[Nirolak]

It looks like Konami is doing some kind of relaunch of their 2011 Momotaro Dentetsu game on mobile.

It's having some success, probably won't be a huge earner, but the bigger takeaway is that this seems to be their plan for the brand, which was previously a bit up in the air.

 

[Hero of Legend]

It looks like Konami is doing some kind of relaunch of their 2011 Momotaro Dentetsu game on mobile.

It's having some success, probably won't be a huge earner, but the bigger takeaway is that this seems to be their plan for the brand, which was previously a bit up in the air.

Nintendo was supposed to be doing a game no?

 

[Nirolak]

Nintendo was supposed to be doing a game no?

That's certainly possible, but that strikes me more as Nintendo's plan for the brand at that point than Konami's.

 

[hiska-kun]

...Wait, one moment. On "COMG!" i noted that Zelda TP is on the chart with the limited edition alone.

...So, guess it has more SKUs?

The SKU with the Amiibo (the one that is charting) and the standalone SKU.

 

[Chris1964]

There is a possibilitty Media Create won't give numbers for Pokemon since they are packed download codes.

 

[horuhe]

There is a possibilitty Media Create won't give numbers for Pokemon since they are packed download codes.

I was about to ask someone about it. So, Famitsu would be the superior tracker this time?

 

[Ryng_tolu]

The SKU with the Amiibo (the one that is charting) and the standalone SKU.

Thank you.

Majora Mask had only one SKU on "COMG!" if i remember correctly, right?

There is a possibilitty Media Create won't give numbers for Pokemon since they are packed download codes.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooo.

 

[hiska-kun]

There is a possibilitty Media Create won't give numbers for Pokemon since they are packed download codes.

But they tracked Dragon Quest X for 3DS and Knack download codes, right?

 

[Chris1964]

Knack (even if it had a retail release) and DQX were exceptions but still full priced games. These are direct Virtual Console downloads.

In case this happens Famitsu will give the numbers.

 

[ßig]

Konami dropped the price for an IAP because a TV show had a Momotaro Dentetsu special. They were playing the 2010 game on the Wii.

 

[Sterok]

With Pokemon S&M having a Chinese option, is this an indication that Nintendo is about to seriously push into China? It's a region they're going to have to get into eventually.

 

[ZSaberLink]

...Pokemon S&M ...

We should probably use a different nickname. Pokemon SM, Pokemon SuMo or something lol.

 

[Vena]

We should probably use a different nickname. Pokemon SM, Pokemon SuMo or something lol.

Pokemon MS.

Powered by the Cloud.

 

[Moor-Angol]

Video game giant Nintendo on Friday chopped its full-year net profit forecast in half, saying slowing sales and a recent pick up in the Japanese currency were eating into its bottom line.

The Kyoto-based company said it now expected to eke out a 17 billion yen net profit in the fiscal year through March, down from an earlier 35 billion yen target.

source: http://www.japantoday.com/smartphone/view/business/nintendo-halves-profit-forecast-on-strong-yen

last month JPY: USD ratio was 123:1, didnt know now it's down to 66:1...

(FYI actual ratio is 113:1)

instead of seeking strange reasons why not admitting that sales are bad in the West and only 3DS is doing good into home market?

 

[Vena]

instead of seeking strange reasons why not admitting that sales are bad in the West and only 3DS is doing good into home market?

You quoted that very thing:

saying slowing sales

 

[Jon Carter]

last month JPY: USD ratio was 123:1, didnt know now it's down to 66:1...

(FYI actual ratio is 113:1)

instead of seeking strange reasons why not admitting that sales are bad in the West and only 3DS is doing good into home market?

The first reason they give is slowing sales, so I'm not sure where that reaction is coming from.

 

[horuhe]

It looks like Konami is doing some kind of relaunch of their 2011 Momotaro Dentetsu game on mobile.
It's having some success, probably won't be a huge earner, but the bigger takeaway is that this seems to be their plan for the brand, which was previously a bit up in the air.

Konami dropped the price for an IAP because a TV show had a Momotaro Dentetsu special. They were playing the 2010 game on the Wii.

Not only today, but yesterday also. The Wii and DS games of Momotaro were beasting on the Rakuten Shopping Mall. They're selling like hotcakes.

http://ranking.rakuten.co.jp/daily/101205/

 

[Nirolak]

They should probably keep the price there given how much more money and downloads they're getting at the moment.

 

[Moor-Angol]

The first reason they give is slowing sales, so I'm not sure where that reaction is coming from.

when your estimates drop about 50% you can add as a reason your local currency became strong
since last august yen passed from 125 to 113 for a dollar, which is around a 10%

sales dropped, not slowed down, they had a poor winter holidays line-up compared to the past and now they see the consequences

 

[1st Course]

The western 3DS software sales is where they got hit the most.

Apr. - Dec. '14 > Apr. - Dec. '15

Americas: 17.24m > 10.72m
Other: 14.54m > 10.67m

3DS need a replacement in the west asap (esp in U.S)

 

[Chris1964]

sales dropped, not slowed down, they had a poor winter holidays line-up compared to the past and now they see the consequences

Thay had a poor winter holidays line-up for both systems in Japan too but somehow they didn't see the consquences.

 

[Vena]

The western 3DS software sales is where they got hit the most.

3DS need a replacement in the west asap (esp in U.S)

Weak holiday, old system, and I think they were betting on YW doing a bit more than it did. That said, I think if we do see the home console out first... I may know why they are doing it that way in the west at least.

sales dropped, not slowed down, they had a poor winter holidays line-up compared to the past and now they see the consequences

They knew exactly what would happen. They made a calculated move which will hurt their finances this year, or just had no software ready for the whole of the holiday... which will hurt their finances.

 

[noobie]

PREDICTION LEAGUE MARCH 2016

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Feb 29 to Mar 27):

[PS4 + PSV] Gundam Breaker 3 (25 days) - 190000
[PS4 + PSV] Summon Night 6 (18 days) - 95000
[PS4 + XB1] Tom Clancy's The Divison (18 days) - 57000
[WIU] The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD (18 days) - 60000
[WIU] Pokkén Tournament (10 days) - 155000
[PS4 + XB1] Dark Souls III (4 days) - 190000
[3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 3 (4 days) - 310000

 

[Jon Carter]

The western 3DS software sales is where they got hit the most.

Apr. - Dec. '14 > Apr. - Dec. '15

Americas: 17.24m > 10.72m
Other: 14.54m > 10.67m

3DS need a replacement in the west asap (esp in U.S)

What they really needed was to not stop developing big games after just two years. Their big teams made one game then left small teams take over with lower budgets and less appealing projects. They let up their efforts too soon and killed whatever momentum it had. They Vita'd their only successful system.

Now with NX they have to build an install base again from zero with low chances of it ever being as big. They lost a lot of mind share in Western countries since 2013. I think they've so far poorly handled the transition from 3DS to NX, so I don't think it will be the savior we're hoping for.

 

[mickagau33]

Not too bad for Setsuna (not that great either)
I suppose Tokyo RPG Factory will be allowed to make another rpg on a budget.

 

[hiska-kun]

Saturday releases {2016.02.27}

[3DS] Pokemon Red _3DS Virtual Console Dedicated Download Card Special Version_ (Nintendo 2DS "Pokemon Red" Limited Pack) <BUN> (Nintendo) (¥9.980)

[3DS] Pokemon Green _3DS Virtual Console Dedicated Download Card Special Version_ (Nintendo 2DS "Pokemon Green" Limited Pack) <BUN> (Nintendo) (¥9.980)

[3DS] Pokemon Yellow _3DS Virtual Console Dedicated Download Card Special Version_ (1/1)(Nintendo 2DS "Pokemon Yellow" Limited Pack) <BUN> (Nintendo) (¥9.980)

[3DS] Pokemon Red / Green / Blue / Yellow _3DS Virtual Console Dedicated Download Card Special Version_ # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) (¥1.389) (Red & Blue Sold Out)

**2DS Blue Edition is limited to Pokemon Centers. I don't have any idea if they were empty or what...

 

[Moor-Angol]

Thay had a poor winter holidays line-up for both systems in Japan too but somehow they didn't see the consquences.

1mln units less sold than the previous year you call "don't see the consesquences" ?

I'm not sure stockholders were happy to have lost around 15 billion yen...

 

[Chris1964]

1mln units less sold than the previous year you call "don't see the consesquences" ?

I'm not sure stockholders were happy to have lost around 15 billion yen...

If you talk for low sales because of poor winter holidays line-up compared to the past stay to the holidays.

 

[Oregano]

With Pokemon S&M having a Chinese option, is this an indication that Nintendo is about to seriously push into China? It's a region they're going to have to get into eventually.

That's what I thought consideirng how big of a deal they made. China/Asia is becoming more important and Pokemon would be a great place to start.

 

[thefro]

What they really needed was to not stop developing big games after just two years. Their big teams made one game then left small teams take over with lower budgets and less appealing projects. They let up their efforts too soon and killed whatever momentum it had. They Vita'd their only successful system.

Now with NX they have to build an install base again from zero with low chances of it ever being as big. They lost a lot of mind share in Western countries since 2013. I think they've so far poorly handled the transition from 3DS to NX, so I don't think it will be the savior we're hoping for.

If they have a unified platform/OS for both the handheld and console they're going to be fine.

The problem they had with 3DS and Wii U is that they couldn't support both platforms adequately at once with internal resources, so you saw a wave of games for 3DS and then a wave of games for Wii U once Nintendo hit the panic button for both systems.

 

[Moor-Angol]

Platform charts weekly update

PS4
3 debuts this week, one good (AoT), one decent (Setsuna), one meh (SF5); DQB passed SW:Battlefront and now next target is GTAV : west vs. japan
Valkirya Chronicle HD had a huge drop while Minecraft keeps selling and selling and selling... as Rainbow Six:Siege



PSV
3 debuts this week, one could have done better, considering how many times it was postponed (Kan Colle), one did goog (AoT) and another suffered for techical problems (Setsuna); DQB is keeping its "road to 300k" and 67 people forgot to buy Minecraft, so it failed to reach 600k this week.



3DS
Mario & Sonic didn't lose appeal after 4 years, first week is almost similar to London 2012 edition, while SMT4:Final had a similar drop as its predecessor (-81% vs. -85%) and Hyrule Warriors Legends passed another Musou, Samurai Warriors Chronicles 2nd.
Talking about the evergreens, Pokemon ORAS is near to the 3mln milestone and Monster Striker is gonna passing DQM:Terry Wonderland in a couple of weeks.



Wii U
While facing several stock problems, Wii U had two significative events this week: Splatoon became the top seller game for the platform (but MK8 last LTD is from Dec.28) and Mario Tennis Ultra Smash became the 20th title to pass the 100k milestone.



PS3
Just 2 titles charted this week, AoT showed the same sales ratio among other sony platform as DQB did (around 18-19% of total sales), but at least DQB is near to the 100k mark.



XBO
The only reason I mention XBO is because for the first time hw sales went below 3 digits; probably even 3DO took more time to reach such a result....

 

[Chris1964]

Next week except for Mario & Sonic expect sharp drops for everything new that came out.

 

[Principate]

**2DS Blue Edition is limited to Pokemon Centers. I don't have any idea if they were empty or what...

That referrence, I understood it

 

[Sammy Samusu]

21 Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry no Wonderland 3D Square-Enix 2012/5/31 488.508 921.310 53,02%
23 Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King Square-Enix 2015/8/27 615.651 864.865 71,18%
24 Dragon Quest Monsters 2: Iru to Ruka no Fushigi na Fushigi na Kagi Square-Enix 2014/2/6 437.077 751.587 58,15%

Will the curse hit Joker 3 too?

 

[zeromcd73]

http://www.jp.playstation.com/psvitatv/hardware/
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Playstation Vita TV is dead. Rip in discontinuation.

 

[casiopao]

21 Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry no Wonderland 3D Square-Enix 2012/5/31 488.508 921.310 53,02%
23 Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King Square-Enix 2015/8/27 615.651 864.865 71,18%
24 Dragon Quest Monsters 2: Iru to Ruka no Fushigi na Fushigi na Kagi Square-Enix 2014/2/6 437.077 751.587 58,15%

Will the curse hit Joker 3 too?

With how SE is treating Joker 3 i don't see why not lol. I had a bad feeling it will underperformed here.

 

[Bruno MB]

21 Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry no Wonderland 3D Square-Enix 2012/5/31 488.508 921.310 53,02%
23 Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King Square-Enix 2015/8/27 615.651 864.865 71,18%
24 Dragon Quest Monsters 2: Iru to Ruka no Fushigi na Fushigi na Kagi Square-Enix 2014/2/6 437.077 751.587 58,15%

Will the curse hit Joker 3 too?

What curse?

http://www.jp.playstation.com/psvitatv/hardware/
&#20986;&#33655;&#23436;&#20102;

Playstation Vita TV is dead. Rip in discontinuation.

Media Create stopped tracking it, but it is still being tracked by Famitsu.

Week 1, 2016 - 685
Week 2, 2016 - 511
Week 3, 2016 - 409
Week 4, 2016 - 366
Week 5, 2016 - 458
Week 6, 2016 - 351
Week 7, 2016 - 262
Week 8, 2016 - 367

 

[Sammy Samusu]

What curse?

The million mark curse.

 

[Moor-Angol]

Media Create stopped tracking it, but it is still being tracked by Famitsu.

Week 1, 2016 - 685
Week 2, 2016 - 511
Week 3, 2016 - 409
Week 4, 2016 - 366
Week 5, 2016 - 458
Week 6, 2016 - 351
Week 7, 2016 - 262
Week 8, 2016 - 367

strange they keep tracking it considering it's out of stock everywhere since the beginning of the year (as I already reported some weeks ago)

 

[Chris1964]

What curse?

DQVII hit 1 million and DQVIII will eventually be there. Go figure.

 

[horuhe]

Does Famitsu or Dengeki still track Wii or DS games? Those Momotaro things are quite popular, that at least could enter in a Top 50.

 

[Chris1964]

Week 9, 2016 (Feb 29 - Mar 06)

new releases

{2016.03.02}
[3DS] Maru Goukaku! Administrative Scrivener Test: 2016 Edition _3DS Download Software_ |DL| <EDU> (Media5) (¥2.592)
[3DS] Maru Goukaku! Applied Information Technology Engineers Examination: 2016 Edition _3DS Download Software_ |DL| <EDU> (Media5) (¥2.592)
[3DS] Mugen no Dunamis _3DS Download Software_ |DL| <RPG> (Kemco) (¥1.000)
[3DS] Musicverse: Electronic Keyboard _3DS Download Software_ |DL| <ETC> (Rainy Frog) (¥740)
[3DS] Mitsukete! Ojipokkuru+ _3DS Download Software_ |DL| <PZL> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥556)
[WIU] Kirby Mass Attack _Wii U Virtual Console Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Nintendo) (¥879)
[WIU] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Trials and Tribulations _Wii U Virtual Console Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Capcom) (¥650)
[PS4] Life Is Strange (.) _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Square Enix) (¥4.444)
[PS3] Life Is Strange _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Square Enix) (¥4.444)

{2016.03.03}
[3DS] Haikyu!! Cross Team Match! # <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥5.700)
[3DS] Haikyu!! Cross Team Match! (1/1)(Cross Game Box) <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥8.190)
[3DS] Haikyu!! Cross Team Match! (.) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥5.700)
[3DS] Doraemon: Shin Nobita no Nihon Tanjou <ACT> (FuRyu) (¥4.980)
[3DS] Doraemon: Shin Nobita no Nihon Tanjou (.) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (FuRyu) (¥4.482)
[PSV] PlayStation Vita Starter Kit 3G/Wi-Fi Model Aqua Blue <H-W> (Sony Computer Entertainment) (¥19.980)
[PSV] PlayStation Vita Starter Kit 3G/Wi-Fi Model Glacier White <H-W> (Sony Computer Entertainment) (¥19.980)
[PSV] Gundam Breaker 3 <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥6.800)
[PSV] Gundam Breaker 3 (.) _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥6.800)
[PSV] Atelier Shallie Plus: Alchemists of the Dusk Sea # <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥5.800)
[PSV] Atelier Shallie Plus: Alchemists of the Dusk Sea (1/1)(Premium Box) <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥8.800)
[PSV] Atelier Shallie Plus: Alchemists of the Dusk Sea (.) _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| (Koei Tecmo) (¥5.143)
[PSV] Gochuumon wa Usagi Desu ka?? Wonderful Party! # <ADV> (5pb.) (¥6.800)
[PSV] Gochuumon wa Usagi Desu ka?? Wonderful Party! (1/1)(Limited Edition) <ADV> (5pb.) (¥9.800)
[PSV] Gochuumon wa Usagi Desu ka?? Wonderful Party! (.) _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (5pb.) (¥6.000)
[PSV] Daisenryaku Perfect: Senjou no Hasha <SLG> (SystemSoft Alpha) (¥6.500)
[PS4] Gundam Breaker 3 <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥7.600)
[PS4] Gundam Breaker 3 (.) _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥7.600)
[PS4] Life Is Strange <ADV> (Square Enix) (¥4.444)
[PS4] Assassin's Creed: Unity [1/1][Ubi the Best] <ACT> (Ubisoft) (¥3.980)
[PS4] Far Cry 4 [1/1][Ubi the Best] <ACT> (Ubisoft) (¥3.980)
[XB1] Tom Clancy's The Division (1/1) (Xbox One 1TB The Division Bundle) <BUN> (Microsoft Game Studios) (¥44.980)
[PS3] Far Cry 4 [1/1][Ubi the Best] <ACT> (Ubisoft) (¥2.980)
[PS3] Assassin's Creed: Rogue [1/1][Ubi the Best] <ACT> (Ubisoft) (¥2.980)
___

YSO predictions

01. [PSV] Gundam Breaker 3 < 90k (average 75k)
02. [PS4] Gundam Breaker 3 < 70k (average 60k)
03. [3DS] Haikyu!! Cross Team Match! < 35k (average 30k)
00. [3DS] Pokemon Red / Green / Blue / Yellow _3DS Virtual Console Dedicated Download Card Special Version_ < 30k (average 25k)

 

[Mpl90]

http://nintendoeverything.com/japans-best-selling-games-of-january-2016/

Famitsu January Top 30 {2016.1.4 - 2016.4.31}

01. [PSV] Dragon Quest Builders – 199,102 (176,143 physical, 22,959 digital)
02. [PS4] Dragon Quest Builders – 168,027 (137,894 physical, 30,133 digital)
03. [3DS] Monster Hunter X – 152,215 (138,704 physical, 13,511 digital)
04. [PS4] Yakuza: Kiwami – 129,729 (123,165 physical, 6,564 digital)
05. [3DS] Monster Strike – 121,277 (114,479 physical, 6,798 digital)
06. [PS3] Yakuza: Kiwami – 91,801 (90,771 physical, 1,030 digital)
07. [3DS] Hyrule Warriors Legends – 77,110 (72,278 physical, 4,832 digital)
08. [WIU] Splatoon – 76,121 (70,991 physical, 5,130 digital)
09. [WIU] Minecraft: Wii U Edition – 71,722 (N/A physical, 71,722 digital)
10. [WIU] Super Mario Maker – 67,848 (63,255 physical, 4,593 digital)
11. [WIU] Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash – 62,404 (59,817 physical, 2,587 digital)
12. [PS3] Dragon Quest Builders – 61,531 (55,791 physical, 5,740 digital)
13. [PSV] Odin Sphere Leifthrasir – 60,759 (54,242 physical, 6,517 digital)
14. [PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition – 58,317 (53,221 physical, 5,096 digital)
15. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch Busters – 56,837 (54,194 physical, 2,643 digital)
16. [PS4] Odin Sphere Leifthrasir – 51,928 (44,977 physical, 6,951 digital)
17. [PS4] Just Cause 3 – 47,642 (43,062 physical, 4,580 digital)
18. [PSV] Uta no Prince-sama Music 3 – 34,200 (32,979 physical, 1,221 digital)
19. [PSV] Mobile Suit Gundam: Extreme VS Force – 32,763 (32,126 physical, 637 digital)
20. [PS4] Fallout 4 – 31,852 (28,686 physical, 3,166 digital)
21. [3DS] Rhythm Heaven: The Best Plus – 29,834 (27,123 physical, 2,711 digital)
22. [3DS] Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer – 29,824 (27,784 physical, 2,040 digital)
23. [PS4] Minecraft: PlayStation 4 Edition – 28,658 (15,253 physical, 13,405 digital)
24. [3DS] Cardfight!! Vanguard G: Stride to Victory!! – 26,798 (25,373 physical, 1,425 digital)
25. [PS4] Romance of the Three Kingdoms XIII – 26,753 (22,738 physical, 4,015 digital)
26. [PS4] Biohazard Origins Collection – 26,084 (26,084 physical, N/A digital)
27. [3DS] Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam – 22,837 (22,019 physical, 818 digital)
28. [PS4] Call of Duty: Black Ops III – 22,639 (21,138 physical, 1,501 digital)
29. [PS4] Rainbow Six Siege – 22,451 (17,880 physical, 4,571 digital)
30. [PS3] Romance of the Three Kingdoms XIII – 20,481 (19,017 physical, 1,464 digital)

Going to update the digital sales thread with both December and January numbers in the next few days.

 

[Nirolak]

That's about the same as Gundam Breaker 2, so it would seem they're not continuing to bleed audience unless they have no legs.