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Media Create Sales: Week 9, 2014 (Feb 24 - Mar 02)

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jcm

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Bruno MB said:
Famitsu Sales (Retail and Digital): January, 2014 (Jan 06 - Feb 02)
17. [PSV] Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster: Twin Pack # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.12.26} (¥7.140) - 35.947 (3.616) / 39.563
19. [PSV] Disgaea 4 Return <SLG> (Nippon Ichi Software) {2014.01.30} (¥6.729) - 29.904 (5.254) / 35.158
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Is the number in parentheses the digital sales? Those are pretty good.
 
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Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
PS4 on Amazon.co.jp, @ 22:45 JPT

Already released

PS4 - 9th (available; 14 reviews so far)

Yakuza: Ishin - 52nd (26% discount; PS3 SKU 32nd, with normal discount)

PS4 First Limited Pack - 65th (sold by third party with a markup)

Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition - 85th (in stock on March 15th)

Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag - 92nd

Upcoming

MGSV: Paid Demo - 2nd (PS3 SKU - 3rd)

Watch Dogs - 18th

inFAMOUS: Second Son - 25th

FFXIV Online: A Realm Reborn - 58th

MGSV: Paid Demo Special Edition - 95th

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PS4 stock, Yodobashi, @ 22:52 JPT

In stock everywhere.
 
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Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Comgnet comparison, as of March 9th, 2014

[PS3] Dark Souls - 315pt
[PS3] Dark Souls 2 - 166pt + 44pt (Collector's Edition) - 210pt

[3DS] Hatsune Miku: Project Mirai - 104pt (Puchi Puchi Pack)
[PSV] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva f - 113pt
[PS3] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F - 126pt
[3DS] Hatsune Miku: Project Mirai 2 - 64pt (Puchi Puchi Pack) + 48pt = 110pt
[PSV] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F 2nd - 109pt
[PS3] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F 2nd - 68pt

[WII] Samurai Warriors 3 - 55pt
[PS3] Samurai Warriors 3Z - 163pt
[PS3] Dynasty Warriors 8: Extreme Legends - 34pt
[PS3] Dynasty Warriors Gundam: Reborn - 73pt
[PSV] Dynasty Warriors Gundam: Reborn - 12pt
[PS3] Samurai Warriors 4 - 69pt + 15pt (Special Treasure Box) - 84pt

[PSP] 2nd Super Robot Taisen Z: Hakai Hen - 215pt (Special Box) + 81pt = 296pt
[PSP] 2nd Super Robot Taisen Z: Saisei Hen - 173pt
[PS3] 2nd Super Robot Taisen OG - 201pt
[3DS] Super Robot Taisen UX - 56pt
[PS3] 3rd Super Robot Taisen Z: Time Prison - 68pt
[PSV] 3rd Super Robot Taisen Z: Time Prison - 32pt

[PS3] Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance - 262pt + 42pt (special) = 304pt
[PS3] Metal Gear Solid V: Paid Demo - 58pt
[PS4] Metal Gear Solid V: Paid Demo - 49pt
 
M

metalslimer

Member
I really don't see why the stock situation for ps4 has been such a big issue. We will see pretty shortly whether or not there is a good amount of demand for the thing.
 
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test_account

XP-39C²
@Darius: I sent you a PM, i just had to clearify something regarding our previous discussion about the PS3 =)


metalslimer said:
I really don't see why the stock situation for ps4 has been such a big issue. We will see pretty shortly whether or not there is a good amount of demand for the thing.
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I think the PS4 stock situation has generally been more as a point of interest. But yeah, sold out or not, we will see how the demand is in the upcoming weeks/months indeed.
 
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BriBri

Member
Bruno MB said:
Famitsu Sales (Retail and Digital): January, 2014 (Jan 06 - Feb 02)
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This can't be right. I'd already read in this thread that Vita digital sales are 20%.
;-)

Was there ever any verification over whether digital only sales are counted. For example games like Bike Rider DX 2 Galaxy that are only released via the eShop? Apologies if this has already been answered in another thread.

And clarity over a post I made in a couple of Media Create threads ago - Nintendo now are listing their games withOUT tax so all first party 3DS games increase from ¥4,800 to ¥4,937 from 1 April WITH tax.
 
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SwiftDeath

Member
deathcobra said:
Was there ever any verification over whether digital only sales are counted. For example games like Bike Rider DX 2 Galaxy that are only released via the eShop? Apologies if this has already been answered in another thread.
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I would assume because of this

Road said:
It's neither.

It's the top 30 games that sold the most retail + downloads.
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Download only titles would show up assuming they can beat out the top 30 retail + download games on the market in that time period. I dunno though, maybe not
 
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Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Last week

[PS4] Battlefield 4 - 26pt
[PS4] Yakuza Ishin - 23pt
Everything else < 16pt

This week

[PS4] Battlefield 4 - 13pt
[PS4] Yakuza Ishin - 10pt
[PS4] Dynasty Warriors 7 with Xtreme Legends - 9pt
Everything else < 9pt

Comparison with other launches on Comgnet incoming
 
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Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
What happened with recent launches on Comgnet

3DS

Launch Week

[3DS] Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracles - 139pt
[3DS] Samurai Warriors Chronicles - 80pt
[3DS] Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition - 67pt
[3DS] Ridge Racer 3D - 39pt
[3DS] Nintendogs + Cats: Toy Puddle & New Friends - 36pt

Second Week

[3DS] Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracles - 90pt
[3DS] Samurai Warriors Chronicles - 40pt
[3DS] Nintendogs + Cats: Toy Puddle & New Friends - 36pt
[3DS] Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition - 27pt
[3DS] Ridge Racer 3D - 26pt

Third Week

[3DS] Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracles - 61pt
[3DS] Samurai Warriors Chronicle - 28pt
[3DS] Nintendogs + Cats: Toy Puddle & New Friends - 25pt
[3DS] Nintendogs + Cats: Shiba & New Friends - 23pt


Vita

Launch Week

[PSV] Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational - 68pt
[PSV] Uncharted: Golden Abyss - 54pt
[PSV] Lord of Apocalypse - 42pt

Second Week

Everything < 80pt

...Yep, not a great indication XD

Third Week

Not finding the chart for that week, sorry :(

Wii U

Launch Week

[WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U - 138pt
[WIU] Monster Hunter 3G HD Version - 58pt
[WIU] Nintendo Land - 57pt
[WIU] Zombi U - 16pt

Second Week

[WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U - 120pt
[WIU] Nintendo Land - 47pt
[WIU] Monster Hunter 3G HD Version - 36pt

Third Week

[WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U - 99pt
[WIU] Nintendo Land - 74pt

...And now

PS4

Launch Week

[PS4] Yakuza Ishin! - 111Pt
[PS4] Battlefield 4 - 54Pt
[PS4] Killzone Shadow Fall - 42Pt
[PS4] Dynasty Warriors 7 - 26pt
[PS4] Assassin's Creed 4 Black Flag - 21pt
[PS4] Call of Duty Ghosts - 18pt
[PS4] Tomb Raider Definitive Edition - 15pt

Second Week

[PS4] Battlefield 4 - 26pt
[PS4] Yakuza Ishin - 23pt

Third Week

[PS4] Battlefield 4 - 13pt
[PS4] Yakuza Ishin - 10pt
[PS4] Dynasty Warriors 7 with Xtreme Legends - 9pt
 
D

Daemul

Member
Bundy said:
Sorry, but this is really getting annoying already.
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Busaiku

Member
Yokai Watch's ratings continue to go up, I imagine its weekly sales will follow too.
It's getting closer and closer to One Piece.

This could end up being Level 5's biggest hit ever.
 
M

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Am I the only one very worried about PS4, after weekly Comgnet appeared? Look, games took another deep drop, again. If this translates into hardware sales, they'd be around 30-35k at best...in the week when the normal SKU was released. That sounds bad...let's see if that's what's going to happen.

Btw, just checked Yodobashi site ( 17:47 JPT) - in stock everywhere.

Instead, it's better to not check Amazon.co.jp for a while: the item PS4 is under review, due to some reports from Amazon users (like 3DS on Amazon US back in 2011, remember? ), so now it's sold by third parties. Anyone who can clarify if it's due to the wobble as I fear?
 
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pieatorium

Member
you've been pretty worried about the ps4 for months now, lack of announcements comg rankings etc. It was never going to push wii or ps2 numbers out the gate. Infact its been pretty well expected to not do great for a while in here, new ppl jumping into the thread posting crazy expectations due to the release hype notwithstanding.

I dont see it hitting the sub 10k's like wiiu and vita for a couple of months yet but its not going to be doing 20k+ weekly either

edit~ also wouldn't it be expected to be less desirable with no bundled game than when it had one? your sentence about the normal sku sounds strange to me
 
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Foshy

Member
Mpl90 said:
Am I the only one very worried about PS4, after weekly Comgnet appeared?
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I'm worried for the Japanese market as a whole. The mass developer exodus to mobile will only get bigger.

Wii U is dead, Vita is a very niche device, 3DS is in decline and the PS4 seems to be stillborn there too. The next Nintendo handheld will probably do worse than 3DS, never mind their next home console.

While japanese AAA will probably keep on existing because it also sells to the west, Japanese low-/mid-budget games on consoles will die out. The new market for JRPGs is mobile.
 
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Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
pieatorium said:
you've been pretty worried about the ps4 for months now, lack of announcements comg rankings etc. It was never going to push wii or ps2 numbers out the gate. Infact its been pretty well expected to not do great for a while in here, new ppl jumping into the thread posting crazy expectations due to the release hype notwithstanding.

I dont see it hitting the sub 10k's like wiiu and vita for a couple of months yet but its not going to be doing 20k+ weekly either

edit~ also wouldn't it be expected to be less desirable with no bundled game than when it had one? your sentence about the normal sku sounds strange to me
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Who was expecting Wii / PS2 numbers out of the gate? Everyone knew PS4 would have had a mediocre first year, with something like 12-15k weekly sales out of Holidays...it's just that I fear it could fare even worse than that. For the first year of course. Next year will surely be better, but a very bad first year could influence PS4's second year as well, and that's what Sony should avoid.
 
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Psycho_Mantis

Banned
Mpl90 said:
Who was expecting Wii / PS2 numbers out of the gate? Everyone knew PS4 would have had a mediocre first year, with something like 12-15k weekly sales out of Holidays...it's just that I fear it could fare even worse than that. For the first year of course. Next year will surely be better, but a very bad first year could influence PS4's second year as well, and that's what Sony should avoid.
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Lets have some numbers then. What do you think the LTd of the PS4 will be this year that will make you worry so much?

I think PS4 will sell around 1.5 million in its first year.
 
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metalslimer

Member
Looking at the release lineup, it seems almost inevitable the system goes below 10k at some point unless something drastically changes. People didn't buy the Vita just because the promise of being a successor to the PSP, and unless Sony has a lot more announcements to throw out soon, I really don't see why people would buy a PS4 for games 2 years away.

I think PS4 will sell around 1.5 million in its first year.
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Unless there is some secret game X Sony is hiding for the 2nd half of this year this seems pretty unlikely considering the fact that it will probably have to average over 20k a week for the next 9 months and then have a Nintendo like increase in the holidays.
 
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michaelius

Banned
metalslimer said:
Looking at the release lineup, it seems almost inevitable the system goes below 10k at some point unless something drastically changes. People didn't buy the Vita just because the promise of being a successor to the PSP, and unless Sony has a lot more announcements to throw out soon, I really don't see why people would buy a PS4 for games 2 years away.
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Vita had to compete against 3DS

SP4 has to compete against Wii U and Xbone (when it gets released in Japan as tier 8 country)
 
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Psycho_Mantis

Banned
metalslimer said:
Looking at the release lineup, it seems almost inevitable the system goes below 10k at some point unless something drastically changes. People didn't buy the Vita just because the promise of being a successor to the PSP, and unless Sony has a lot more announcements to throw out soon, I really don't see why people would buy a PS4 for games 2 years away.



Unless there is some secret game X Sony is hiding for the 2nd half of this year this seems pretty unlikely considering the fact that it will probably have to average over 20k a week for the next 9 months and then have a Nintendo like increase in the holidays.
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You do know that puts is pretty close to 1.5 million

20k*36= 720k

720k+ 370k(current LTD) = 1.1 million. 200-300k holiday season and its pretty close to my figure.
 
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metalslimer

Member
michaelius said:
Vita had to compete against 3DS

SP4 has to compete against Wii U and Xbone (when it gets released in Japan as tier 8 country)
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Are we really going to pretend like PS4 isn't competing against mobile/3DS/Vita/PS3 in this thread? By this logic the Wii U should have rocketed to success.


20k*36= 720k

720k+ 370k(current LTD) = 1.1 million. 200-300k holiday season and its pretty close to my figure.
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Oh ignore what I said, I was thinking calendar 2014 not the first year of release. I can see close to that by the end of Feb 2015


But anyway, with no real place to get a bunch of announcements out there for a while, this is a pretty horrendous lineup if it holds. And honestly, I'm not sure where a ton of announcements would come from that would actually be out in the june-sept area.


Japan

03/19
Natural Doctrine
Nobunaga no Yabou Online: Tenka Mugen no Shou

03/20
Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes

04/14
Final Fantasy XIV Online: Shinsei Eorzea

05/01
Child of Light

05/22
inFamous: Second Son

06/05
Wolfenstein: The New Order
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Darius

Banned
metalslimer said:
Oh ignore what I said, I was thinking calendar 2014 not the first year of release. I can see close to that by the end of Feb 2015
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36 weeks from now, is in 9months -> December, holiday season is in December/sylvester as well. It´s obvious that he was talking about calender year 2014. Even if you consider January and, February these aren´t very strong months in general without a system seller.
 
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Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Well, the lineup has been my main worry for a while, and it seems it has not changed that much yet. I hope something is announced in the next future for this year and 2015 (I mean different from the big ones), because the lineup, after March, is even worse than PS3 in 2007 IMHO.

Right now, we have things like next Ys being a possibility, as well as one SKU of the new Senran Kagura Versus, and the only certainty is NISA announcing a PS4 project at this year TGS. We have many intentions, but currently...almost nothing concrete. Still, I think / hope PS4 could get versions of the following titles

Dead or Alive 5
Ultra Street Fighter IV
Dark Souls 2 (2015)

Given hints here and there. Other possibilities?
 
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Psycho_Mantis

Banned
Mpl90 said:
Well, the lineup has been my main worry for a while, and it seems it has not changed that much yet. I hope something is announced in the next future for this year and 2015 (I mean different from the big ones), because the lineup, after March, is even worse than PS3 in 2007 IMHO.

Right now, we have things like next Ys being a possibility, as well as one SKU of the new Senran Kagura Versus, and the only certainty is NISA announcing a PS4 project at this year TGS. We have many intentions, but currently...almost nothing concrete. Still, I think / hope PS4 could get versions of the following titles

Dead or Alive 5
Ultra Street Fighter IV
Dark Souls 2 (2015)

Given hints here and there. Other possibilities?
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Yes the lineup is worrying. I'm sure there are some announcements to be made.

Like I said before, what do you see the LTD of the PS4 at the end of this year that makes you worried so much?
 
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RalchAC

Member
michaelius said:
Vita had to compete against 3DS

SP4 has to compete against Wii U and Xbone (when it gets released in Japan as tier 8 country)
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I think it was Takao who said it frist, but the PS4 has to fight againt the WiiU, its own predecesor and unfavorable market trends. The Vita "only" had to fight against the 3DS and the PSP.
 
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shinra-bansho

Member
Psycho_Mantis said:
Yes the lineup is worrying. I'm sure there are some announcements to be made.

Like I said before, what do you see the LTD of the PS4 at the end of this year that makes you worried so much?
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CY2014?

Around 1.1M is probably realistic. Your 1.5M is likely too optimistic.

It doesn't necessarily make me concerned for the PS4 though.
 
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QaaQer

Member
Mpl90 said:
Well, the lineup has been my main worry for a while, and it seems it has not changed that much yet. I hope something is announced in the next future for this year and 2015 (I mean different from the big ones), because the lineup, after March, is even worse than PS3 in 2007 IMHO.
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I agree. It is kind of depressing as someone who enjoys Japanese games.

Right now, we have things like next Ys being a possibility, as well as one SKU of the new Senran Kagura Versus, and the only certainty is NISA announcing a PS4 project at this year TGS. We have many intentions, but currently...almost nothing concrete. Still, I think / hope PS4 could get versions of the following titles

Dead or Alive 5
Ultra Street Fighter IV
Dark Souls 2 (2015)

Given hints here and there. Other possibilities?
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This might be a dumb question, but have there been any Japanese developed 3rd party next gen exclusive games announced or released for ps4?

RalchAC said:
I think it was Takao who said it frist, but the PS4 has to fight againt the WiiU, its own predecesor and unfavorable market trends. The Vita "only" had to fight against the 3DS and the PSP.
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+ smartphones.
 
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michaelius

Banned
RalchAC said:
I think it was Takao who said it frist, but the PS4 has to fight againt the WiiU, its own predecesor and unfavorable market trends. The Vita "only" had to fight against the 3DS and the PSP.
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That's a joke right ?

No major 3rd party game will be released on Wii U in Japan without getting incentives from Nintendo or being allowed to use one of Nintendo IPs.

People buying PS3 are natural customers for PS4 in which case it's only a matter of when not if.

Market trend sounds to me like someone is mistaking cause and effect. Current market trends are like this becouse PS3 had tons of problems.

Of course Japan publishers seem to not have learned from PSP->Vita transition mistakes so first 12-18 months will be relatively slow but dying sales of ps3 software in the west will force them to move.
 
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