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[Flo_Evans]

I dunno, seems fishy! why would you take out that awsome exploding truck tire and gear kicking the truck?

 

[Nozi]

Why exactly is it a meltdown? You keep spewing ignorant trolls in this thread and when someone makes a point you start with random accussations ("what's the word I learned this week? MELTDOWN. Let's use it!!!"). Nice tactic. Take your fanboy damage control (since you obviously consider MGS4 a threat) out of this thread please.

PEACE

 

[Ajax]

Mass Effect I supose. If it makes you feel any better, I dont think Gears of War looks particularly impressive either (which makes no sense, considering both games use UE3.)

edit: Just saw the 640x360 cam trailer from Gamevideos. Much, much better than those screens. Especially when you see the self-shadowing going on. good stuff.

Just no. Mass Effect only admirable feature in graphics is the faces. Everything else including the rest of the models and backrounds from what we've seen so far is pretty mediocre.

 

[Ajax]

IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE THE FULL TRAILER PRETTY PLEASE? NOT JUST THE NEW PART. I WANT ALL OF IT AS IT WAS SHOWN AT THE GC.

thank you

I'd like that too. Maybe they've eliminated the slowdowns?

 

[BigBoss]

Lets not turn this into a Mass Effect Effect vs. MGS4 thread. Lets rejoice and laugh at the pathetic Xbots who tried to claim MGS4 was downgraded.

 

[-Rogue5-]

That new trailer is pretty sweet. I can't wait for spin-off games like Gekko Soccer, where the ball is just humans. Hey, they just announced that Fifa and PES were exclusive to 360, but Gekko Ball is exclusive to PS3.

Also, mark my words, there will be a snake comment about the Gekkos having to sh*t after every fight.

 

[Apenheul]

Hmm, maybe it isn't downgraded, but it really doesn't look like anything special to me. The animations are extremely cunning, I give them that, but I see houses for example that are just normalmapped cubes (not even ambient occlusion or spherical harmonics), and there's no advanced shading going on anywhere. Animation and art direction are out of this world though

 

[Zombie James]

Also, mark my words, there will be a snake comment about the Gekkos having to sh*t after every fight.

"I hope they don't shit on my box."

 

[Dsal]

I don't know about downgrade but like it matters. Their art direction is so fricken awesome it doesn't make a difference either way.

Looking forward to hearing more about the actual gameplay.

 

[parada911]

Why does it look like pea soup? Does making the game all one color free up power to the developer to do other kinds of graphical / technical things?

 

[dark10x]

Why does it look like pea soup? Does making the game all one color free up power to the developer to do other kinds of graphical / technical things?

Not this again...

It's an artistic decision. Believe it or not, some of us prefer such design to others than use every color in the rainbow. The color scheme was not chosen as the result of some technical limitation like many seem to believe.

 

[Zombie James]

Why does it look like pea soup? Does making the game all one color free up power to the developer to do other kinds of graphical / technical things?

Artistic choice. During the live demonstration at TGS last year they showed off many different hues on the fly, they even gave it a cold, blue metallic tone that made it look like the original MGS.

 

[Ajax]

Hmm, maybe it isn't downgraded, but it really doesn't look like anything special to me. The animations are extremely cunning, I give them that, but I see houses for example that are just normalmapped cubes (not even ambient occlusion or spherical harmonics), and there's no advanced shading going on anywhere. Animation and art direction are out of this world though

You guys don't give up, do you? There's not a single game out there as impressive as MGS4 and as much as you're desperately trying to make it look bad you just can't change that.

 

[Doom_Bringer]

Downgrade, downgrade, downgrade urgh some of you are uterly retarded. The final PS3 dev kits just shipped 3 weeks ago, Ryan from Kojima Productions already said the cut 2 minutes worth of footage from the E3 trailer, this is probably that footage he was talking about.

At E3 Kojima said they were just learning things about the PS3 hardware and the graphics will improve…

Edit: there is a lot going on at 60 FPS so I am guessing they fixed the frame rate since E3 but the stage but settings are the same therefore nothing new...

 

[Dante]

Why does it look like pea soup? Does making the game all one color free up power to the developer to do other kinds of graphical / technical things?

They use this in film all the time where there is no technical limitations. It's called color grading, It's why films like Underworld had an overwhelming blue color scheme, and matrix had a green tint.

 

[mckmas8808]

Mass Effect I supose. If it makes you feel any better, I dont think Gears of War looks particularly impressive either (which makes no sense, considering both games use UE3.)

edit: Just saw the 640x360 cam trailer from Gamevideos. Much, much better than those screens. Especially when you see the self-shadowing going on. good stuff.[/B]

I thought you would come around after you seen the video.

 

[BlueTsunami]

Why does it look like pea soup? Does making the game all one color free up power to the developer to do other kinds of graphical / technical things?

Its called style and setting a tone for an overall scene or the game in general. Kojima has been doing this since MGS2

 

[RaijinFY]

Why does it look like pea soup? Does making the game all one color free up power to the developer to do other kinds of graphical / technical things?

:lol :lol :lol

and the scariest thing is he has a brain...

 

[Vagrant]

I dunno, seems fishy! why would you take out that awsome exploding truck tire and gear kicking the truck?

Maybe this segment wasn't as polished as it is now? You can see parts of this new trailer that were in the E3 trailer (copter flying over the fight, and the two soldiers shooting from the building) which also suggests this was the portion cut from the E3 trailer.

They use this in film all the time where there is no technical limitations. It's called color grading, It's why films like Underworld had an overwhelming blue color scheme, and matrix had a green tint.

I wouldn't be surprised if the other areas in the game outside the middle east had different tints to give each a distinct feel.

 

[Mononofu]

Why does it look like pea soup? Does making the game all one color free up power to the developer to do other kinds of graphical / technical things?

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[Doom_Bringer]

hehe isn't it funny how these new Metal Gears don't waste any ammo whatsoever on the rebel faction while one of them started shooting Snake while he ran away from them? I Wonder why?

Maybe Ocelot or the Patriots programmed them to seek Snake as a big threat who must be eliminated immediately. Cause I guess kicking wouldn’t be that effective

 

[Apenheul]

You guys don't give up, do you? There's not a single game out there as impressive as MGS4 and as much as you're desperately trying to make it look bad you just can't change that.

Eh.. I'm NOT trying to make this game look bad, it looks good but I had anticipated to see MSG using the power of the PS3 to do some advanced rendering techniques. I'm just saying that from a (graphics) technical viewpoint MSG4 isn't really impressive. This is not a trolling attempt, I never troll.

 

[TheDoppelganger]

My PS2 won't play MGS3 anymore. Me am cry!! Disc Read Error.

Oh well, the new trailer rocked though. Yellow-green crap from a group of metal gears after a win. Nothing beats a good shit. Hideo says "shit on you 360! hahaha" GAME OVER MAN woot

 

[Reilly]

hehe isn't it funny how these new Metal Gears don't waste any ammo whatsoever on the rebel faction while one of them started shooting Snake while he ran away from them? I Wonder why?

They didn't shoot at Raiden either

Spoiler

I don't think

 

[Doom_Bringer]

Eh.. I'm NOT trying to make this game look bad, it looks good but I had anticipated to see MSG using the power of the PS3 to do some advanced rendering techniques. I'm just saying that from a (graphics) technical viewpoint MSG4 isn't really impressive. This is not a trolling attempt, I never troll.

The buildings are destructible! didn't you see the E3 trailer or read any Kojima interviews?

 

[Mark Gonzales]

How is it that the more new stuff we see the more downgraded the game looks. WTF.

 

[Doom_Bringer]

They didn't shoot at Raiden either

Spoiler

I don't think

They didn't shoot as they approached him however once he started doing batshit maneuvers and avoiding their kicks they went nuts with the guns.

This is probably how their AI works:
1.) Kick enemy
2.) If enemy avoids or kills one of your mates then use guns
3.) If taken heavy casualties use missiles

 

[Vagrant]

They didn't shoot at Raider either

I think they did, but only after he evaded one of their kicks and jumped on top of one of them IIRC(seems that they prefer getting in close and crushing over bullets or rockets).

edit:beaten by Doom_Bringer

3.) If taken heavy casualties use missiles

Maybe they save those for tanks and other armored vehicles?

 

[Doom_Bringer]

How is it that the more new stuff we see the more downgraded the game looks. WTF.

What downgrade? It looks upgraded. More shit on screen, 60 FPS, better physics! WTF are you talking about?

 

[mckmas8808]

How is it that the more new stuff we see the more downgraded the game looks. WTF.

Because you keep looking at your penis and not the computer monitor.

 

[mckmas8808]

What downgrade? It looks upgraded. More shit on screen, 60 FPS, better physics! WTF are you talking about?

Hey Doom don't bust a vessels some people just want to hate. The physics and debris alone is an upgrade.

 

[TheDoppelganger]

Oh, and this shitting thing is old news anyways. Go watch the E3 trailer, right after they stomp the box of watermelons, they raise up and moo and shit and jump off the building.

 

[Mark Gonzales]

What downgrade? It looks upgraded. More shit on screen, 60 FPS, better physics! WTF are you talking about?

Are you watching a high res version or something cuz I don't see it.

 

[RaijinFY]

What downgrade? It looks upgraded. More shit on screen, 60 FPS, better physics! WTF are you talking about?

Dont bother with Gonzalez, he's stupid as ****...

 

[GotchaForce]

I think I know why the Gekkos piss at the end: they can see what's Raiden's doing to the other ones.

 

[Doom_Bringer]

Are you watching a high res version or something cuz I don't see it.

wow are you blind dude? You really don't need a high res version to see the better physics, and the fact there are more enemies and metal gears on the screen....

 

[Mmmkay]

How is it that the more new stuff we see the more downgraded the game looks. WTF.

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[Elios83]

wow are you blind dude? You really don't need a high res version to see the better physics, and the fact there are more enemies and metal gears on the screen....

He isn't blind he just can't give up to the evidence as he's an Xbox

 

[Mark Gonzales]

He isn't blind he just can't give up to the evidence as he's an Xbox

Or maybe your all stupid and can't grasp sarcasm

 

[Gantz]

While you guys are splooging over FMVs. When will get some in game gameplay shots or videos?

 

[lunlunqq]

Why does it look like pea soup? Does making the game all one color free up power to the developer to do other kinds of graphical / technical things?

below are real pictures of streets in some middle eastern countries. why are they so ****ing monotone yellowish???!1!1!!1!!!!1! the only reasonable conclusion is that mother nature sux and dose not have enough power to render more colors...

 

[Doom_Bringer]

Or maybe your all stupid and can't grasp sarcasm

Sarcastic trolling? wow I haven't seen that before

While you guys are splooging over FMVs. When will get some in game gameplay shots or videos?

Its a real time cut scene that uses the engine, you know like the one bugie used when they showed Halo 3 at E3. Gameplay at TGS

 

[Ajax]

Eh.. I'm NOT trying to make this game look bad, it looks good but I had anticipated to see MSG using the power of the PS3 to do some advanced rendering techniques. I'm just saying that from a (graphics) technical viewpoint MSG4 isn't really impressive. This is not a trolling attempt, I never troll.

It isn't technically impressive? So when you see all these soldiers with all this detail in their faces (some have them hidden others not and even they have detailed eyes) and gear (yeah there are *a few* bad textures there too -cry me a river) running, shooting, falling down and when the Metal Gears come too and join the fight with all that interaction and chaos going on in every detail, you don't consider it technically impessive? What exactly do you consider technically impressive? Please enlighten us.

 

[Mark Gonzales]

Sarcastic trolling? wow I haven't seen that before

Yeah..kind of like that kid who was crying about draw distance...now who was that

 

[lunlunqq]

They didn't shoot at Raiden either

Spoiler

I don't think

they did shoot at raiden.

 

[Doom_Bringer]

Yeah..kind of like that kid who was crying about draw distance...now who was that

that wasn't sacastic trolling it was real trolling you fool.

 

[Ajax]

Sarcastic trolling? wow I haven't seen that before



Its a real time cut scene that uses the engine, you know like the one bugie used when they showed Halo 3 at E3. Gameplay at TGS

Hehe. No, he just keeps making fun of xbox fans. He's using their catchphrases most of the time to suppossedly troll PS3..

 

[Nozi]

below are real pictures of streets in some middle eastern countries. why are they so ****ing monotone yellowish???!1!1!!1!!!!1! the only reasonable conclusion is that mother nature sux and dose not have enough power to render more colors...

It's a style choice. They have chosen a muted, monochrome palette and it's their decision.. some will like it others won't. Monochrome always makes stuff look better at some level - turn any screen of a game to monochrome, boost the contrast and most stuff looks way better.

 

[Ajax]

that wasn't sacastic trolling it was real trolling you fool.

:lol

 

[Doom_Bringer]

It's a style choice. They have chosen a muted, monochrome palette and it's their decision.. some will like it others won't. Monochrome always makes stuff look better at some level - turn any screen of a game to monochrome, boost the contrast and most stuff looks way better.

style choice for one area. The game covers many different battlefields and I guess its safe to assume that all will have a different filter.