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Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)

Do you believe the deal will be approved?


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OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
thank the lord , it is finally over
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feynoob

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Microsoft owning Activision will have no effect on the cloud market, because there is hardly a cloud market as is. Owning CoD isn't going to stop other cloud rivals from starting.
That is stupid statement.
It's like saying MS owning windows has no bearing on PC gaming market.
MS will have the most attractive cloud gaming service. Not to mention, they will also have gamepass as a supplier.
 

Warablo

Member
That is stupid statement.
It's like saying MS owning windows has no bearing on PC gaming market.
MS will have the most attractive cloud gaming service. Not to mention, they will also have gamepass as a supplier.
So you think MS will be this unstoppable force in the cloud market? In 10 years Sony will still be on top of the console market and their cloud will be growing with time.
 
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nikolino840

Member
ABK is free to make deals on their own while remaining third party (like they do now), without a sole gatekeeper consolidating the industry.
Everyone is free ... but some companies doesn't want to... why take two always says that doesn't want to put their games on gamepass?
For what I know is microsoft that believe and push the cloud not abk and maybe they have the money to do so...
For example...how many abk titles are in streaming services?
 

Venom Snake

Member
I asked AI Poem Generator to help me out with this:

Everyone is free, that's what they say,
Yet some companies still prefer to play,
They hold their games close to their chest,
Not wanting to share with all the rest.

Take Two is one of those who refuse,
To put their titles on Gamepass to amuse,
They claim it's not the way to go,
But Microsoft pushes cloud and wants to grow.

Some say it may be all about the money,
Others think it's just barriers to keep things sunny,
But the truth is, we just don't know,
How many ABK titles in streaming services doth show?

So let's not judge or be too quick to blame,
Perhaps both sides are playing a different game,
One thing's for sure, we'll just have to wait,
To see how this all unfolds and what's at stake.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
I asked AI Poem Generator to help me out with this:

Everyone is free, that's what they say,
Yet some companies still prefer to play,
They hold their games close to their chest,
Not wanting to share with all the rest.

Take Two is one of those who refuse,
To put their titles on Gamepass to amuse,
They claim it's not the way to go,
But Microsoft pushes cloud and wants to grow.

Some say it may be all about the money,
Others think it's just barriers to keep things sunny,
But the truth is, we just don't know,
How many ABK titles in streaming services doth show?

So let's not judge or be too quick to blame,
Perhaps both sides are playing a different game,
One thing's for sure, we'll just have to wait,
To see how this all unfolds and what's at stake.
Somehow that made more sense.
 

DJ12

Member
So you think MS will be this unstoppable force in the cloud market?
** Asks Google **

Yeah.

Only the big players can really afford the level of infrastructure needed, Google already failed, amazon aren't doing much better, so yeah ms already kind of are.

How else does the "gift" of those 10 year bullshit deals seem like a good thing to the little guys.

Having cod on their system even if they aren't getting any money from it keeps them relevant, but it also increases MSs stranglehold in the cloud market.

Which is essentially the CMAs argument.
 

feynoob

Banned
Sadly, no :), quite the opposite, good manners from an early age. If you can't read a situation, you can't be sure of what the "good" mannered response should be.

Good manners requires a life study of social dynamics IMHO.
That is not a good manner. That is called common sense, which all of us here lack sometimes.
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feynoob

Banned
Big news.

Bobby Kotick has a secret: He was ready to buy Time Warner a few years ago. The CEO of Activision Blizzard drops this nugget early on while sitting at the company’s Santa Monica headquarters for his first extensive interview since 2012. It’s a Friday afternoon in mid-April, which means the office is mostly deserted. Huge replicas of characters and actual backdrops from the video game giant’s roster of franchises — including Call of Duty, Diablo, Overwatch and Candy Crush — dot the landscape of the open-architecture space. The quiet in the building and the low midafternoon light give the place a slightly spooky, fun house vibe.

“We’d take their IP and turn it into games. They’d take our IP and turn it into film and television, and we’d have an extraordinary company,” Kotick says, sketching out his vision for a deal in an alternate universe in which AT&T never bought Time Warner and Activision took it on instead. In reality, the Justice Department lost its lawsuit to block the sale of Time Warner to AT&T. But during the first half of 2018, when the fate of the $85.4 billion Time Warner purchase hung in the balance, Activision Blizzard took a cue from its “Call of Duty” commandos: It stockpiled financial ammunition and waited patiently for an opening to pounce.
 
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DeepEnigma

Gold Member
In summary:

  • If a company doesn't want their games on gamepass then they need to be forced to via Microsoft buying them out. Gamepass above all else, no matter the cost.
  • No company will ever put their games on a cloud streaming service unless Microsoft buys them out. Therefore, for that reason alone, everyone should let Microsoft buy them out.
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Warablo

Member
** Asks Google **

Yeah.

Only the big players can really afford the level of infrastructure needed, Google already failed, amazon aren't doing much better, so yeah ms already kind of are.

How else does the "gift" of those 10 year bullshit deals seem like a good thing to the little guys.

Having cod on their system even if they aren't getting any money from it keeps them relevant, but it also increases MSs stranglehold in the cloud market.

Which is essentially the CMAs argument.
Google's failure had nothing to do with Microsoft.
 

FUBARx89

Member
MS biggest obstacle is the renogation. After that, they need to overcome the original decision. Then try and to get appropriate remedy in order to get it approved. All of that, while racing the dead of the deal.

CMA can delay their decisions as long as they want to and drag MS appeal.

Nah I understand the CAT appeal & CMA.

It's just the respect laws thing. That's what I dunno if their solicitor honestly said. Like I said if they did that has blown my mind.

Can start paying their taxes if they have 😂
 
In summary:

  • If a company doesn't want their games on gamepass then they need to be forced to via Microsoft buying them out. Gamepass above all else, no matter the cost.
  • No company will ever put their games on a cloud streaming service unless Microsoft buys them out. Therefore, for that reason alone, everyone should let Microsoft buy them out.
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feynoob

Banned
A company could completely dominate cloud gaming for the next 20 years and still not really make an impact. It's niche. It's nice to be able to do in rare circumstances but it's still niche.
Anyone who believes cloud gaming is nichie need to touch a grass.
This sector literally brought this deal down. Even the might console space couldn't stop this deal.
Put respect to its name.
 

Varteras

Gold Member
According to both Google and the CMA, and Google very much told the CMA this, but their bowing out was thanks in no insignificant part to Microsoft.

And based on the stories i've heard from colleagues at MS, worked as contractors at Xbox Game Studios, and devs at some of their biggest and smallest team - Microsoft will not be helping in this regard either. MS is far better at covering up their mess.

Oh sweet! Time for me to pick your brain again. How do you feel MS and ABK will proceed now that the date for the hearing is beyond the deadline? With the potential for a decision to come as far out as 3 weeks after. Which doesn't even actually guarantee a favorable outcome, nor is it in any way the last word even if the CAT accepts the appeal.
 

feynoob

Banned
According to both Google and the CMA, and Google very much told the CMA this, but their bowing out was thanks in no insignificant part to Microsoft.
Google failure was their own fault. They are mostly to blame.
Stadia was DOA, the moment they showcased it. They literally broke too many promises. And most games that was promised was not shown.

Like every product they made, they didn't put that much effort in to it.

Stadia with another company would have found it's footing.
 

Topher

Gold Member
Them bowing out proves there isn't really market for cloud gaming. Its just a substitute right now for traditional gaming. (PC, Sony, Xbox)

As the regulators have said, it is a nascent market. Google shutting down Stadia doesn't prove anything in that regard. There is a long list of companies that have left the console business since it was a nascent market. Casualties in new markets are common, especially in tech.
 

feynoob

Banned
As the regulators have said, it is a nascent market. Google shutting down Stadia doesn't prove anything in that regard. There is a long list of companies that have left the console business since it was a nascent market. Casualties in new markets are common, especially in tech.
When Xbox is like this in console space, imagine how other business look like in that spectrum.


It's a tough market. If you do stupid moves, you will pay the price and lag behind a lot.

Stadia had a lot of potential. Google fucked it up badly, by doing a death kiss, like every other projects that they have made so far. They have a graveyard of failed projects.
 
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