We could all tweet Major Nelson and ask if MS will pay us even more for positive reviews.
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Microsoft to offer 3$ per 1000 views if you promote XBO
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We could all tweet Major Nelson and ask if MS will pay us even more for positive reviews.
Ha, an additional $3 CPM for a mention? Hilarious stuff.
I mean $3 is cheap. Guess they don't want to dish out the $15-$19 for just pre-roll. But man, it's such a waste of money for Microsoft. Look, I don't blame the people who jump on this... other than preserving integrity I guess. But hey when Microsoft is dumb enough to just pay people to say they're playing an Xbox One, that's pretty funny.
As far as I can tell it doesn't even say you have to be positive about it. Just that you're using it.
I mean $3 is cheap. Guess they don't want to dish out the $15-$19 for just pre-roll. But man, it's such a waste of money for Microsoft. Look, I don't blame the people who jump on this... other than preserving integrity I guess. But hey when Microsoft is dumb enough to just pay people to say they're playing an Xbox One, that's pretty funny.
As far as I can tell it doesn't even say you have to be positive about it. Just that you're using it.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
This is going to back fire in a huge way. Not only will MS worsen their reputation but any Youtube site that actively promotes the X1 will automatically be dismissed and be accused of taking the bribe, even if they're legitimate views. This will implode badly.
Phrozenflame500
Member
Alright that's not nearly as bad as I assumed it would be, especially if multiplats are included.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Maybe he will also pay us if we keep down the "hate".
MS paid them $750,000 just for existing.
Narpas Sword0
Member
If you don't like it, don't watch videos with the tag xb1m13. It could not be more transparent. And it runs for two weeks.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
Ohhh nice, they even made an easy way for us to filter and search for them, look for disclosure, and then report any that fail to follow the disclosure rules.
NICE!
The Crimson Kid
what are you waiting for
This would be awful for viewers of YouTube videos if this kind of promotion catches on, for plenty of reasons that should be obvious. Think about how YouTube content would change if these kinds of deals and incentives were commonplace. This needs to be pushed back against and properly enforced.
According to those FTC law guidelines a posted earlier in this thread, a video would have to clearly state that they were being paid by Microsoft based on the number of views this video receives in order to properly disclose the promotion.
That isn't enough to comply with federal law.
According to those FTC law guidelines a posted earlier in this thread, a video would have to clearly state that they were being paid by Microsoft based on the number of views this video receives in order to properly disclose the promotion.
That isn't enough to comply with federal law.
Uncle Rupee
Banned
We don't know if the tag is the usual YouTube tag system or something internal. Channels that are managed my multi-channel networks see different features inside their UI. Besides, that tag is meaningless to anyone who is unaware of the campaign; XB1M13 does not function the same as "This video has been brought to you by Microsoft".
Some details about the deal have surfaced,
Source,
http://www.igameresponsibly.com/201...personalities-good-money-to-promote-xbox-one/
Nice with tag included, that will make it easier to see which channels I should never watch again.
Some details about the deal have surfaced,
Source,
http://www.igameresponsibly.com/201...personalities-good-money-to-promote-xbox-one/
So I assume the guidelines of the assignment outline that you have to be positive
Some details about the deal have surfaced,
Source,
http://www.igameresponsibly.com/201...personalities-good-money-to-promote-xbox-one/
Hahah even the deal is shady as fuck. So once all the videos reached a combine 1.25 million views they will just stop paying and the videos will continue to do free promotion for Microsoft.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Love how it starts with "Hello influencers".
Wow. This is actually illegal payola if the only "disclosure" is a tag that nobody will recognize.
They've had similar promotions before, this is just another round of it.
They've had similar promotions before, this is just another round of it.
Uno Venova
Banned
:lol That's a funny point.
purpletentacle
Member
I hear if you mention Doritos or Mtn Dew you get an additional $3.
Byakuya769
Member
Hahahahahahahaha! Pathetic.
Spinning Plates
Member
I bet TmarTn's already made half a dozen vids ready to upload.
CPM = Cost per mille, "mille" being the Latin for thousand.
The Machinima CM also clarified that this one pays just on video views, not successfully served ads.
Why pay more for annoying preroll ads when you can make the content creators do the dirty work for less
It's amazing what a little money can do to make heads look the other way
Wow, missed that the first time. It just keeps getting better.
Lol him and Woody'sGamertag are about to eat well off of this
You can search for the tag right now if you want.
I've only watched a few of these videos, but none that I've checked so far have disclosed that they're participating in the promotion anywhere but the "XB1M13" tag in their names.
I've only watched a few of these videos, but none that I've checked so far have disclosed that they're participating in the promotion anywhere but the "XB1M13" tag in their names.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
You can search for the tag right now if you want.
I've only watched a few of these videos, but none that I've checked so far have disclosed that they're participating in the promotion anywhere but the "XB1M13" tag in their names.
Lol
Garrett 2U
Member
Because it's getting people to talk about their product on a huge, influential social network.
How is it not a smart idea..? Haha.
Kilau
Member
You can search for the tag right now if you want.
I've only watched a few of these videos, but none that I've checked so far have disclosed that they're participating in the promotion anywhere but the "XB1M13" tag in their names.
Many of those videos are a month old yet this promo didn't start until Jan. 14th?
DoubleTake
Member
You can search for the tag right now if you want.
I've only watched a few of these videos, but none that I've checked so far have disclosed that they're participating in the promotion anywhere but the "XB1M13" tag in their names.
Idk why but this is making me lmao hahah. Notice that most of them are Spanish videos??
People updating old videos to take advantage of the promotion, possibly?
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
Oh Man, GameSocietyPimps went the extra mile, at the end of one of their tagged videos they went the extra mile "Dead Rising 3, get it now, you know you want to."
No disclosure, yeah, that ones getting reported
No disclosure, yeah, that ones getting reported
VaultBoy101
Member
Are you telling me that a company is paying people to promote its product?
I need to go lay down, I'm not sure I can handle this.
I need to go lay down, I'm not sure I can handle this.
evidently they also did it for launch
Couldn't content creators take advantage of this promo in a tongue in cheek way while adhering to the promo rules? Like "It's time for this week's Xbox One corner!" and do like a character promoting the thing? That way, you can take advantage of the promo, be obvious about it, and still keep and cred you may or may not have?
Chobel
Member
It's unethical and apparently is illegal.
The Crimson Kid
what are you waiting for
Some details about the deal have surfaced,
Source,
http://www.igameresponsibly.com/201...personalities-good-money-to-promote-xbox-one/
Doing it like this is against the law.
Scroll down to section 255.5
These videos need to clearly state that they are being compensated by Microsoft based on the number of views the video receives in order to be compliant with US federal law.
BlitzEngineer
Member
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I've never considered the critical opinions of random youtube celebs (Totalbiscuit as an example) as particularly valid.
People in this thread keep saying that MS is buying good press here, and while I don't dispute it as shady, I don't really think they are buying press here.
Youtubers aren't journalists. They have no motivation to follow any sort of standard or uphold any kind of journalistic integrity. TotalBiscuit has already said that he's done "Consulting" for some publishers and he doesn't disclose which publishers or which games. It wouldn't surprise me if he was compensated in some way for his promotional work for Planetside 2 or SC2 from those publishers.
Now, do I think that's a good thing? No, which is why I don't watch TBs videos or subscribe to his critical opinions. But I don't think he's legally or morally obligated to not take money from publishers because he isn't a journalist. He's a personality.
SO like I said, I don't think this is a good thing or that it's all above board, but it just surprises me that people are reacting as if this sort of stuff hasn't been happening for awhile and that MS is the first one to reach out to youtubers to promote their games. They aren't, but I guess this is the first time something like this has gotten this much attention.
People in this thread keep saying that MS is buying good press here, and while I don't dispute it as shady, I don't really think they are buying press here.
Youtubers aren't journalists. They have no motivation to follow any sort of standard or uphold any kind of journalistic integrity. TotalBiscuit has already said that he's done "Consulting" for some publishers and he doesn't disclose which publishers or which games. It wouldn't surprise me if he was compensated in some way for his promotional work for Planetside 2 or SC2 from those publishers.
Now, do I think that's a good thing? No, which is why I don't watch TBs videos or subscribe to his critical opinions. But I don't think he's legally or morally obligated to not take money from publishers because he isn't a journalist. He's a personality.
SO like I said, I don't think this is a good thing or that it's all above board, but it just surprises me that people are reacting as if this sort of stuff hasn't been happening for awhile and that MS is the first one to reach out to youtubers to promote their games. They aren't, but I guess this is the first time something like this has gotten this much attention.
So it's not very effective then.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
Oh undoubtedly, there might be a bit of a surprise coming for those that took advantage though
He's not, but he is legally required to disclose that payment though.
get a drink and a sense of humour while you're at it, on me
This Mexican Machinima partner has ~472,000 subs, has the tag in his video name on January 16th.
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