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[shinobi602]

More at the links: http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/16/4526770/will-the-nsa-use-the-xbox-one-to-spy-on-your-family

http://www.oxm.co.uk/58530/microsof...any-government-attempt-to-spy-through-kinect/

Microsoft's been in the news a fair bit lately on the strength of its supposed collaboration with the US National Security Agency - a Guardian report alleges that the latter is able to gather user data via Skype, Outlook and Hotmail with Microsoft's consent. The company has now released a formal statement on the matter, denying much of the report and calling on the US government to allow it "to share publicly more complete information about how we handle national security requests for customer information".

Microsoft has also rejected claims that it will allow the NSA to gather data via the Xbox One's Kinect sensor, which is required for the console to run. "Absent a new law, we don't believe the government has the legal authority to compel us or any other company that makes products with cameras and microphones to start collecting voice and video data," reads a comment mailed to the Verge. "And we'd aggressively challenge in court any attempts to try and force us to do so."

 

[Amir0x]

so why didn't they do this when the government was seeking data from their other stuff?

 

[R3TRODYCE]

And here we go!

 

[Gadirok]

The law? I'm more worried about MS and them spying on me and passing it onto other corps. Kinect should be able to be unplugged to play the One.

 

[demosthenes]

What is the difference between Kinect and Skype Microsoft?

 

[Phire Phox]

Awesome. I know MS has no interest in spying on us, its all the government.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

What is the difference between Kinect and Skype Microsoft?

One is actually useful.
The other one is Kinect.

 

[fabricated backlash]

Now that is cute.

 

[NIN90]

Keep fighting the good fight! For consumers!

 

[Sub_Level]

It's not just Microsoft. Google, Facebook, and others are asking the government to disclose more information to the public on the data that they requested.

 

[nacimento]

NSA:" We want to use Kinect for enhanced observation."

Microsoft:"For the record, we don't want you to do that. Now go, here is all you need."

 

[SneakyStephan]

Just like they did with skype.
Lying devils.

 

[The_Inquisitor]

Aggressively challenge? How about don't let them use it period?

 

[Buddha Beam]

That really fills me with confidence, Microsoft.

 

[fratstar]

I don't know about you negative nancies but I trust ms here. They've done a good job at winning back the core gamer and won't lose him out because Holder never read a law book in his life.

 

[Septimus Prime]

They would probably lose that challenge.

 

[CoG]

Having no mandatory Kinect is a better way of solving this problem.

 

[Oersted]

"And we'd aggressively challenge in court any attempts to try and force us to do so."

Everyone knows America doesn´t work this way. Try again.

 

[twobear]

well what else would they say?

 

[kenta]

I'll aggressively challenge the government's attempts to collect my income tax. It'll probably turn out the same way

 

[famousmortimer]

Microsoft, your credibility is lost on this one. Just like if Sony was to announce "we are totally great at online security now!"


It might be true, it might not be... but with credibility lost there's no reason to give them the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Don't trust you MS

 

[BurnOutBrighter]

"Oh yeah, you guys can snoop through Bing, Office Live, Windows Phones, all that stuff. But don't touch Kinect, that freaks people out for some reason."

 

[Carl]

Lol, okay

 

[Skyzard]

Good luck with that.

Should not have mentioned it.

 

[Wynnebeck]

NSA:" We want to use Kinect for enhanced observation."

Microsoft:"For the record, we don't want you to do that. Now go, here is all you need."

This. The statement is to save face after you just told us a few weeks ago you are "compelled" to share all info with the gov't.

 

[NullPointer]

Microsoft: I know I've made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you.

 

[GameSeeker]

LOL.

100% PR hype - hoping people will fall for it.

Microsoft is already giving the NSA everything they want and will continue to do so.

 

[weekend_warrior]

If the NSA wants that data they have to pay just like everyone else!

 

[BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO]

I don't believe you

 

[mrklaw]

so why didn't they do this when the government was seeking data from their other stuff?

I guess the difference is MS passing on data they were already collecting Vs MS actively being requested to gather new data and pass it on.



Whether or not this is true, why the hell would MS make a statement? Given what has come out recently, who in their right mind is going to give MS the benefit of the doubt on this one?

 

[inky]

...Until they are ordered to do so and will happily comply anyway?

LOL.

 

[Foffy]

so why didn't they do this when the government was seeking data from their other stuff?

I knew I smelt ether.

 

[Teletraan1]

MS should just lock themselves in a vault until 3 months after the bone releases, their PR is a nightmare and only seems to rile people up against them even more since it seems so disingenuous.

 

[dragonflys545]

Just give people the ability to unplug the kinect and still be able to play games.

 

[kasane]

Didn't they lie with Skype? Trust nobody

 

[fabricated backlash]

Microsoft: I know I've made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you.

Stop Dave.

I'm Afraid^^

 

[Nethaniah]

And people will actually buy this lie.

 

[AshiusX]

Wait it is actually possible to be spied through Kinect?

That is disheartening to hear.

 

[Wynnebeck]

Just give people the ability to unplug the kinect and still be able to play games.

But you can unplug it. Just don't expect it to work...

EDIT: Aww you edited it. lol

 

[More Fun To Compute]

Well Microsoft would never lie to us unlike the government because reasons.

 

[gtmax]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/11/microsoft-nsa-collaboration-user-data?INTCMP=SRCH

Sure thing Microsoft. Sure thing.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/11/microsoft-nsa-collaboration-user-data?INTCMP=SRCH

 

[Freki]

Worked wonderfully with Skype...
Not to mention the voluntarily installed backdoors to outlook...

oh wait.

 

[ACSwift]

just a bunch of PR nonsense

 

[Osiris]

So they don't deny that Kinect could be used for those purposes then? Interesting...

I'd like to see them challenge and take on the US Govt. / NSA though, they put up such a vocal and persistent fight over the other PRISM stuff after all.

 

[Glorified G]

Just give people the ability to unplug the kinect and still be able to play games.

Microsoft and common sense don't go hand in hand. They rather bad pr instead

 

[Socreges]

Good luck with that.

Should not have mentioned it.

Yep.

MS PR is a fucking disaster these days. I wonder what it's like to work in certain offices of theirs at the moment.

Microsoft: I know I've made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you.

Nice!

 

[TheLaughingStock]

More at the links: http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/16/4526770/will-the-nsa-use-the-xbox-one-to-spy-on-your-family

http://www.oxm.co.uk/58530/microsof...any-government-attempt-to-spy-through-kinect/

Is the public suppose to believe a challenge would be successful?

 

[demidar]

Yeah, like I'm gonna believe Microsoft is looking out for the consumer.

 

[Impeccable]

Please trust us.