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[shinobi602]

Stated in the Xbox One design video posted earlier here.

I can't believe they waited so long to begin work on it. With Cerny saying development began on the PS4 sometime in 2007 and Iwata stating they they're already starting work on a next-gen console after Wii U, I wonder how different the design process is for each of these companies.

It just seems a little late, no?

 

[Sleepy]

No wonder all their ideas are half-baked.

 

[GeoramA]

Explains a lot

 

[Donthizz#]

two years behind PS4 development, whoa...

 

[Stumpokapow]

I honestly don't read anything in to the year figures that companies list, because we don't have a sense of which figure means "we have some internal people dedicated to looking at new hardware" versus which figure means "we've picked a basic idea for our console and now we're locking down parts on a project that's been greenlit to be the next generation of our hardware". It does seem like MS is a little rushed right now, but I just mean I don't read anything into this particular figure.

 

[Meelow]

Both the Wii U and PS4 started development in 2007 while Xbox One started in late 2010...Um wow.

I always thought they would announce the Xbox 720/One in 2011 back than.

 

[Zombie James]

It shows.

 

[Nevergiveup]

How long should it take to plan a console? That sounds long enough technology moves quickly

 

[Foxix Von]

This is all really starting to lend credence to the rumor that they are 6 months behind.

 

[Rogue_Ledr]

2010? They waited until 5 years after the 360 launched just to start?

Says a lot!

 

[onQ123]

I'm sure the ground work started much sooner.

 

[IHaveCandy]

That sure explains the specs.

Spoiler

jk

 

[nhlducks35]

Guess that Kotaku "6 months behind" article has some merit

 

[derFeef]

Didn't he speak of the design, not the whole console hardware etc.?

 

[Toki767]

Not too surprising. They were raking in a lot of money at the time.

 

[Holly Caust]

And they wanted to launch in 2012? lol

 

[iMax]

Stated in the Xbox One design video posted earlier here.

I can't believe they waited so long to begin work on it. With Cerny saying development began on the PS4 sometime in 2007 and Iwata stating they they're already starting work on a next-gen console after Wii U, I wonder how different the design process is for each of these companies.

It just seems a little late, no?

You're confusing 'Xbox One' with 'the next generation Xbox'. They are not the same.

 

[udllpn]

I would take all this with a grain of salt, especially when comparing the development of the Xbone with that of the PS4 or Nintendo consoles.

 

[R3TRODYCE]

Seems like they weren't sure if they wanted to make a follow up.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

This is what concerns me most about Bone software - everything was started so late and they've not even introduced a platform for indie devs yet. What are you doing MS?

 

[la flama blanca]

All signs point to MS not being ready. Sony caught them off guard so badly, quite funny actually.

 

[MikeE21286]

I honestly don't read anything in to the year figures that companies list, because we don't have a sense of which figure means "we have some internal people dedicated to looking at new hardware" versus which figure means "we've picked a basic idea for our console and now we're locking down parts on a project that's been greenlit to be the next generation of our hardware". It does seem like MS is a little rushed right now, but I just mean I don't read anything into this particular figure.

Exactly

3 years with 10 people and then 2 more with 100-200 (or whatever the math is) means you were "working" on it for 5 years

Whereas 3 years with 400 people on it is still technically 3 years

 

[Shahed]

I honestly don't read anything in to the year figures that companies list, because we don't have a sense of which figure means "we have some internal people dedicated to looking at new hardware" versus which figure means "we've picked a basic idea for our console and now we're locking down parts on a project that's been greenlit to be the next generation of our hardware". It does seem like MS is a little rushed right now, but I just mean I don't read anything into this particular figure.

People are gonna jump to conclusions regardless, but context is important here. Number by itself is meaningless.

It can explain an awful lot though depending on what they really mean by 'began'

 

[EvB]

That who video was about the external appearance of the hardware, not the actual conception of the machine,

 

[DeadRockstar]

I honestly don't read anything in to the year figures that companies list, because we don't have a sense of which figure means "we have some internal people dedicated to looking at new hardware" versus which figure means "we've picked a basic idea for our console and now we're locking down parts on a project that's been greenlit to be the next generation of our hardware". It does seem like MS is a little rushed right now, but I just mean I don't read anything into this particular figure.

Yeah, this all comes down to what they consider as the beginning of development. If they were to mean literally no thought was put into it before 2010, then that would explain the rush they seem to have found themselves in, but I do find that hard to believe.

 

[Jezbollah]

I have to think they were curtailed a little by the RROD saga.

 

[Rebel Leader]

Yeah, this all comes down to what they consider as the beginning of development. If they were to mean literally no thought was put into it before 2010, then that would explain the rush they seem to have found themselves in, but I do find that hard to believe.

Same here.

 

[DontHateTheBacon]

All signs point another great overreaction thread.

 

[Liha]

I know now why the xbone is so bad.

 

[Morthas]

Looks like someone had to force M$ to start developing a new hardware. I remember E3 2012 and all the complaints about the lack of new hardware and M$ (and Sony) was all like "Our current system still has many years ahead".

They won't start developing another hardware before 2025.

 

[Auto_aim1]

There's a difference between development and concept phase. They could have been thinking about their next gen console and its direction after the Xbox 360 came out. I think what they are saying is that active development began in 2010, which isn't that surprising.

 

[PJV3]

If there's one company you don't want rushing things it's Microsoft.

 

[Cmerrill]

Wonder why they waited so long? I wonder if Microsoft was feeling ambivalent about staying in the console market.

 

[AppleSmack]

Wow that is late as hell. Such disorganization from MS.

 

[twobear]

I find it more surprising that PS4 has taken 7 years frankly.

 

[BadTaste]

That explains all the revised models for Xbox 360. Not to mention Kinect.

 

[razgriz417]

When did the kinect come out? Would kinda make sense seeing as they were probably heavily focused on the kinect

 

[PJV3]

I find it more surprising that PS4 has taken 7 years frankly.

Perhaps they knew the 3 was a fuck up of sorts. It's ended up not too bad, but they may have just needed a back up console. on the drawing board.

 

[tinfoilhatman]

Depends were not necessarily talking apple to apples here when comparing the three companies statements



"We've begun development" could mean anything from one intern in a cubical drawing pictures to engineers working creating the hardware architecture.

 

[Chamber]

That who video was about the external appearance of the hardware, not the actual conception of the machine,

I think so too but did it really take 3 years to design a black box?

 

[Duxxy3]

Holy shit, what a rush job.

 

[shinobi602]

That who video was about the external appearance of the hardware, not the actual conception of the machine,

They never state that directly. They just said "we started in late 2010".

 

[Sleepy]

Holy shit, what a rush job.

If you are two years behind, you are backwards.

 

[SolarPowered]

The box itself isn't so bad for something that may have started development so late. It's real problems are more the DRM and anti-used things they are implementing.

We'd probably be okay with the Xbone if it didn't try to kill second hand games and force us online.

 

[oldergamer]

use some common sense guys. I doubt this article is accurate at all. MS couldn't start working on the design late 2010 and expect to release games late 2013.


I highly doubt sony started work on ps4 in 2007 only to end up using off the shelf parts. Xb1 has more custom hardware then ps4 has, making things custom means much more lead time up front. Taking off the shelf parts is the fastest method of making a console.

 

[statham]

They are talking about the design/look of it, but carry on.....

 

[Monty Mole]

I honestly don't read anything in to the year figures that companies list, because we don't have a sense of which figure means "we have some internal people dedicated to looking at new hardware" versus which figure means "we've picked a basic idea for our console and now we're locking down parts on a project that's been greenlit to be the next generation of our hardware". It does seem like MS is a little rushed right now, but I just mean I don't read anything into this particular figure.

This.

Sony started thinking about PS4 in 2007, it doesn't mean actual development started in 2007. I'm sure Microsoft was 'thinking' about and discussing next-gen in 2007 too.

The policies are muddled, but from a hardware and OS standpoint, Xbox One looks like a mature product.

 

[ramb0211]

Three years to research what cheap durable plastics are needed and how airflow will be handled seems fine to me.

 

[kitsuneyo]

I don't believe anything MS says about stuff like this. They just as likely started work on it in 2007.

 

[twobear]

Perhaps they knew the 3 was a fuck up of sorts. It's ended up not too bad, but they may have just needed a back up console. on the drawing board.

Yeah no shit the PS3 was a fuckup, but seven years to design PS4? One of these two claims is bullshit.