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Mirror's Edge: Catalyst Closed Beta Thread | Didn't Get An Email? Keep Faith
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What's generic about it? And the original wasn't full of life, imo.
Yes, I remember the ship level, easily worst level in the game I'm also well aware that playing the game for the first time it was nearly impossible to complete the game without beating people up. I also installed ME1 just to be sure what I was talking about wasn't complete bs. I played the beta for 4-5 hours trying find stuff to like to no avail. I could go into it more but I don't think that anybody here wants to read me bitch and moan about little details.
NightShift
Member
You say the first game was great mostly for the mechanics. What's the difference?
Also apparently the beta has lower textures and things going on then what's going to be in the full game to save space. Not to mention it's a beta and is unfinished. I agree that the addition of an open world, xp and upgrades is pointless but I feel the game wouldn't be approved by EA without them.
I don't like the upgrades either but if you can unlock the stuff you did in the beta as fast in the real game then it's not a big deal to me. you get enough xp to unlock basically all of the essentials pretty early on.
They're basic mechanics that were available from the start in the first game, I don't see why they should be behind some experience barrier.
Chubzdoomer
Banned
This game's hand-to-hand combat feels like something from a pre-alpha Early Access title on Steam. It really is that bad.
Maybe it gets way, way better when you unlock a bunch of the upgrades, but to me a combat system should be solid from the get-go. You certainly didn't have to grind in any the Arkham games before their combat felt good.
Maybe it gets way, way better when you unlock a bunch of the upgrades, but to me a combat system should be solid from the get-go. You certainly didn't have to grind in any the Arkham games before their combat felt good.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
My thoughts from Xbone:
-Seems more playful than the original, which is nice.
-Overall visual design isn't as good as the original.
-Hiding basic running moves behind experience is D-U-M-B. Leave that to the combat stuff if you must have some stupid progression system.
-Framerate was horribly inconsistent and it's running 720p so no excuses. I never had problems in Battlefront, a gorgeous game with loads of crazy shit happening everywhere. I know this is a beta, but they had better clean up that framerate.
-Combat is fine. The point isn't to fight it's to GTFO and it does that well.
I'd be interested if I am assured rock solid 60fps.
-Seems more playful than the original, which is nice.
-Overall visual design isn't as good as the original.
-Hiding basic running moves behind experience is D-U-M-B. Leave that to the combat stuff if you must have some stupid progression system.
-Framerate was horribly inconsistent and it's running 720p so no excuses. I never had problems in Battlefront, a gorgeous game with loads of crazy shit happening everywhere. I know this is a beta, but they had better clean up that framerate.
-Combat is fine. The point isn't to fight it's to GTFO and it does that well.
I'd be interested if I am assured rock solid 60fps.
JetSetRadio
Banned
Is it still up? Forgot to check it during the weekend but it seems to be downloading an update now.
Japanmanx3
Member
Just found out I was in the beta yesterday. So much salt to be had.
wild wild rice
Member
I can't put my finger on it, but the game is missing something to make it compelling. Instead it's repetitive in an almost mind-numbing and very relaxing way. I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the open world structure.
My experience with the beta:
- Combat was terrible. No feedback, unresponsive and generally poorly done.
- Art style feels like a step down from the original even though the renderer is better. Seems like the clinical look of UE3 fit this world better than the smooth look of FB3
- Skill tree was lame, but mildly unintrusive. If leveling up is easy in the final game it could be a tolerable issue.
- Open world was unnecessary. It's not that interesting to traverse it, especially after you've gone through the same areas a billion times. I can see it getting old fast.
- You can turn off runner vision, but since the game is designed around being open world doing so makes the game a bit worse. In the first one, since it was linear, you knew that every path was a valid path as long as you could execute the moves. Here, sometimes if you try to take a shortcut it ends up being a dead end, making it trial and error, which makes runner vision more necessary. This is typical "we catered to the hardcore returning players" like DXHR, Thi4f and Bioshock infinite did where they gave the option to remove systems to make the game similar to the older version but designed the game around their existence so removing them leads to objectively bad game design.
- The load times are really long but I'll assume they'll fix that.
- The missions themselves do feel like ME1 from time to time, which is good. Except for combat sections.
Overall pretty much what I expected. By trying to cater to a larger base they've invalidated the tightly designed aspects of the first that made it so great. I'll still play the full game, but I'm expecting a schlocky open world game and not a follow-up to one of my favorite games of all time.
- Combat was terrible. No feedback, unresponsive and generally poorly done.
- Art style feels like a step down from the original even though the renderer is better. Seems like the clinical look of UE3 fit this world better than the smooth look of FB3
- Skill tree was lame, but mildly unintrusive. If leveling up is easy in the final game it could be a tolerable issue.
- Open world was unnecessary. It's not that interesting to traverse it, especially after you've gone through the same areas a billion times. I can see it getting old fast.
- You can turn off runner vision, but since the game is designed around being open world doing so makes the game a bit worse. In the first one, since it was linear, you knew that every path was a valid path as long as you could execute the moves. Here, sometimes if you try to take a shortcut it ends up being a dead end, making it trial and error, which makes runner vision more necessary. This is typical "we catered to the hardcore returning players" like DXHR, Thi4f and Bioshock infinite did where they gave the option to remove systems to make the game similar to the older version but designed the game around their existence so removing them leads to objectively bad game design.
- The load times are really long but I'll assume they'll fix that.
- The missions themselves do feel like ME1 from time to time, which is good. Except for combat sections.
Overall pretty much what I expected. By trying to cater to a larger base they've invalidated the tightly designed aspects of the first that made it so great. I'll still play the full game, but I'm expecting a schlocky open world game and not a follow-up to one of my favorite games of all time.
This is something I noticed too. I turned off Runner Vision as soon as the tutorial was done, and sometimes it was hard to know where to go, especially during delivery missions. I still plan on playing the full game that way, but it forces the player to memorize the city layout, which as you say may require multiple attempts to achieve.
BarrenMind
Member
Has EA said whether this will have time trials for the missions, with the ability to download and race against ghosts to see how they got their insanely fast times?
Had a lot of fun with that in the first game.
Had a lot of fun with that in the first game.
teflontactics
Member
Seems like they've integrated time trials into the open world aspect with "dashes" (and user created time-trials). It's not the same to me, and I agree, I'd rather have a little "run" like the original game gave you.
That said, I'm finding myself much more interested than I thought I'd be in the game as a whole - so thank the digital gods that they didn't eff it up as bad as I thought they did.
Hard to tell, but the menus suggest that the game at least tracks mission completion times, and will have a mission replay feature in the final build.
JetSetRadio
Banned
Managed to put two hours in today, yep this is Mirror's Edge and I still like it.
Framerate needs improvement though on PS4.
Framerate needs improvement though on PS4.
The combat is objectively awful, I don't really care how long it might take, fact is I couldn't advance until I killed? them all. I had a decently sized message on the screen telling me so.
I don't think DICE has created anything special here. I'm a huge fan of the original, I've gone through it dozens of times. DICE has abandoned a lot of what I enjoyed in the original. That's not special to me. That's pretty much the opposite. Somebody that owns ME1 on Steam and on Origin just so that that person could buy the DLC is not somebody that randomly goes around hating on EA, by the way.
Well, in the case of SFV, since you brought it up, I usually complain about something I paid money for and it doesn't fucking work, and online matchmaking didn't work for me for over two weeks. At all.
Anyway, the latest forced combat situation is simply the straw that broke the camel's back. I don't like the repetitive nature of going open world, I don't like the skilltree, I don't like the focus on a story that is clearly going to end up being completely mediocre at best, I miss the tight level design of the game, I don't like the aimless feel of this game's open world, and I indeed don't like the combat. I don't see any real improvements to the first game. Catalyst is a sidestep at best.
Oh I also don't like that it runs completely awful on my PC, but beta and all that.
It was the actually the tutorial for the Ubisoftian Towers that this game has.
InquisitorAles
Member
Are you trying to run beta on PS1?
/s
AwakenedCloud
Member
Try 30 minutes before it closes. Thanks, Gmail filtering.
StarStabbedMoon
Member
reverse-harem confirmed
InquisitorAles
Member
Well fuck. Got the key for PC today, and when i finally downloaded it, it shows me that beta just ended.
That's gamers for you. Minor shit becomes a major flaw.
indigodomino
Member
looks like you didn't complete the beta...........there are forced encounters........
The next album by Drake.
Big Green Anus
Member
I'm getting incompatible client version. Did the beta end?
April 26th 16:00 UTC Sunset of the beta.
Wowfunhappy
Member
I'm in withdrawal guys. I want to play more Mirror's Edge!
Probably going to have to jump back into the first game.
Probably going to have to jump back into the first game.
GustyGardens
Banned
I thought the beta was fun, but it took some time to realize that I couldn't do everything that I wanted to do until I leveled up and upgraded. I knew I wanted to get places, but I couldn't until I had the quick turn.
I'll definitely be buying the game, though. It looked great on PS4.
I'll definitely be buying the game, though. It looked great on PS4.
Me too.. well fuck... oh well whats a month or so..
Sad the beta has ended, I really enjoyed it.
Also I thought the combat was really quite well done. It's smooth and fast and really encourages using the environment to your advantage. An absolutely massive step up from the first game and a very positive surprise.
Oh come on, get out of here with that "objective" bullshit.
Also I thought the combat was really quite well done. It's smooth and fast and really encourages using the environment to your advantage. An absolutely massive step up from the first game and a very positive surprise.
Oh come on, get out of here with that "objective" bullshit.
The option is in there (at least on PC). I cranked up the FOV and turned off the motion blur first thing. I think consoles have a FOV slider too, side note.I really hope they give us the option to turn off the motion blur, it made me insanely sick
Ha that got so old.
To be fair, it's true to classic Mirror's Edge when I'd miss the train jump.
"The train Faith, take the train."
*splat*
"The train Faith, take the train."
*splat*
Naturally classic Mirror's Edge had shorter lines and shorter reloads though.
Yeahhhh that needs fixed, lol. Did you report it on the forum?
"All you had to do was follow the damn train, Faith!"
Garrett Hawke
Member
that train bit got me so many times lmao
Dumb question, but do I need PSN to play the beta? When I first downloaded it on the 22nd, it ran fine with no problems, but when I'm trying to play now it says that I can't connect online.
I've checked my connection, and my WiFi is fine. This only happened after it downloaded some update.
I've checked my connection, and my WiFi is fine. This only happened after it downloaded some update.
I think the beta has expired. It's disabled on Origin too.
Garrett Hawke
Member
I can't wait for this to be out now
It was so relaxing just running around and exploring the rooftops. When all the tools for running are unlocked including the rope swing thing it's going to be so much fun.
It was so relaxing just running around and exploring the rooftops. When all the tools for running are unlocked including the rope swing thing it's going to be so much fun.
teflontactics
Member
Anyone else get to this really awkward to get to area?
http://imgur.com/a/Easnf
Didn't look like I could get there from the outside (you "hop" up the slide shown in one of the pics), and unfortunately I happened to get there on a bit of glitched "still working" gameplay post server shut-down so I wasn't able to go back and grab some screens of the entrance slide.
There wasn't much there, but a few of the little things (railing placement, overhang, slide) made me think it simply wasn't complete yet. I kind of wonder if it's part of the story side (there's a weird curtain bit that looks like a door).
http://imgur.com/a/Easnf
Didn't look like I could get there from the outside (you "hop" up the slide shown in one of the pics), and unfortunately I happened to get there on a bit of glitched "still working" gameplay post server shut-down so I wasn't able to go back and grab some screens of the entrance slide.
There wasn't much there, but a few of the little things (railing placement, overhang, slide) made me think it simply wasn't complete yet. I kind of wonder if it's part of the story side (there's a weird curtain bit that looks like a door).
Wowfunhappy
Member
So I played through about half of Mirror's Edge 2008 last night, and I'm just saying... you guys who think the original is better are crazy!
I love ME but the game is littered with so many niggling issuesthings that have always bothered me but become that much more apparent. Just a few:
1) Objects that Faith should be able to use as springboards can't be used that way. You can essentially only spring board off of objects that are specifically highlighted in red, regardless of shape.
2) Ledge grab is finicky. It sometimes decides not to work. Never experienced this in the new beta.
3) The combat is much worse, and there's much more combat overall.
4) Even disregarding combat, the level design often forces you to slow down with ledge hang puzzles, vent infiltrations, and areas that force you to run in tight "zig zag" patterns. All of these things are present in the new beta, but they're far less common.
I love ME but the game is littered with so many niggling issuesthings that have always bothered me but become that much more apparent. Just a few:
1) Objects that Faith should be able to use as springboards can't be used that way. You can essentially only spring board off of objects that are specifically highlighted in red, regardless of shape.
2) Ledge grab is finicky. It sometimes decides not to work. Never experienced this in the new beta.
3) The combat is much worse, and there's much more combat overall.
4) Even disregarding combat, the level design often forces you to slow down with ledge hang puzzles, vent infiltrations, and areas that force you to run in tight "zig zag" patterns. All of these things are present in the new beta, but they're far less common.
Garrett Hawke
Member
Yeah I was playing 2008 recently but gave up in Chapter 5 or something because there was a bullshit room with two guys with SMGs and they kept killing me before I could do anything. Tried it about 15 times then just closed it.
Wowfunhappy
Member
I've been listening an archived developer stream of the beta on Youtube (not watching, because I don't want to forget the beta as much as possible), and the developer said there'd be a way to turn of health bars.
I liked having health bars, but I know they bothered a lot of people, so there you go.
Edit: Dev also confirmed that everything unlocked by default in the beta skill tree will also be unlocked by default in the final game. I had little doubt this was the case after seeing how the Beta was structured, but there you go.
I liked having health bars, but I know they bothered a lot of people, so there you go.
Edit: Dev also confirmed that everything unlocked by default in the beta skill tree will also be unlocked by default in the final game. I had little doubt this was the case after seeing how the Beta was structured, but there you go.
samueljustice00
Member
doesn't it come out in two days for the early access folk? Is there an OT?