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News Misinformation dropped dramatically the week after Twitter banned Trump

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Online misinformation about election fraud plunged 73 percent after several social mediasites suspended President Trump and key allies last week, research firm Zignal Labs has found, underscoring the power of tech companies to limit the falsehoods poisoning public debate when they act aggressively.
The new research by the San Francisco-based analytics firm reported that conversations about election fraud dropped from 2.5 million mentions to 688,000 mentions across several social media sites in the week after Trump was banned from Twitter.
Election disinformation had for months been a major subject of online misinformation, beginning even before the Nov. 3 election and pushed heavily by Trump and his allies.
The findings, from Jan. 9 through Friday, highlight how falsehoods flow across social media sites — reinforcing and amplifying each other — and offer an early indication of how concerted actions against misinformation can make a difference.
Trump’s banishment was followed by other actions by social media sites, including Twitter’s ban of more than 70,000 accountsaffiliated with the baseless QAnon ideology, which played a key role in fomenting the Capitol siege on Jan. 6.
“Together, those actions will likely significantly reduce the amount of online misinformation in the near term,” said Kate Starbird, disinformation researcher at the University of Washington. “What happens in the long term is still up in the air.”

YouTube should start banning channels that spread misinformation now. It’s way to easy to be recommended conspiracy videos that can lead you down a radicalization path.
 
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- IMOO it's is more likely because congress certified the results. people realized that now no theory can change anything. doesn't mean people are convinced. rejecters still on know they will be censored so skid around the subject or talk about other issues.
- the most loud have been kicked off and continuing the conversation elsewhere.
 

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I, too, want our tech overlords to be the sole arbiters of truth. It's the only way I will feel safe.

The responsibility shouldn’t be put on the owners of social media, but since our government can’t infringe on free speech, what other options do we have to fix this fake news/misinformation issue?
 
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What is the issue, exactly? How is the issue fixed by infringing on free speech, exactly?

Why not just dismantle social media, which is what I would suggest.

Infringe may have been too strong of a word, but what I meant is that our government can’t legally stop you from saying something, but the social media sites can with their moderation, suspending/banning and TOS.

The issue is the lies and false-truths that people are believing online. It can lead to polarization, echo chambers, and wide-spread misinformation. Not sure how we can combat all of these traits of social media sites without introducing more speech laws or letting them continue to moderate themselves. I feel like they’ve gotten to big to dismantle now.
 

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- IMOO it's is more likely because congress certified the results. people realized that now no theory can change anything. doesn't mean people are convinced. rejecters still on know they will be censored so skid around the subject or talk about other issues.
This is definitely part of it, but I actually think that the belief will come around as well.

A lot of the belief in these crazy conspiracies is just cope. You see even now people convinced there is gonna some 11th hour swerve. It's not an evidence based belief, it's a prayer.

People are starting to realize that it's over. And also that Trump was kind of a giant asshole who was really desperate to cling to power. And once you realize that, it becomes much harder to convince yourself that there's a coordinated bipartisan conspiracy across every branch of government in every swing state to rig the election.
 

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.. it becomes much harder to convince yourself that there's a coordinated bipartisan conspiracy across every branch of government in every swing state to rig the election.

wishful thinking. things will stir again once controversial policies are forced through.
 

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I, too, want our tech overlords to be the sole arbiters of truth. It's the only way I will feel safe.

They’re not, because you can choose to use other services, or you know, pick up the phone or write a letter.
 

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You're not allowed to overturn an election because you (wrongly) think there is voter fraud.

You are also not allowed to overturn an election because you just plain don't like the guy, but they tried.


Why do people have such short political memories?
 
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You're not allowed to overturn an election because you (wrongly) think there is voter fraud.

You are also not allowed to overturn an election because you just plain don't like the guy, but they tried.


Why do people have such short political memories?

Yeah, I remember that shit. You can find copium threads on the topic on this very forum.

It was fucking insanity, but was propped up by the mainstream.
 

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Infringe may have been too strong of a word, but what I meant is that our government can’t legally stop you from saying something, but the social media sites can with their moderation, suspending/banning and TOS.

The issue is the lies and false-truths that people are believing online. It can lead to polarization, echo chambers, and wide-spread misinformation. Not sure how we can combat all of these traits of social media sites without introducing more speech laws or letting them continue to moderate themselves. I feel like they’ve gotten to big to dismantle now.
So what other issues should be censored from public discussion?

Since liberals have now decided private tech companies should decide the ideas and opinions we are allowed to have. You people are fucking disgusting.
 
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The responsibility shouldn’t be put on the owners of social media, but since our government can’t infringe on free speech, what other options do we have to fix this fake news/misinformation issue?

Education? Counterbalancing speech/information? Radical concepts, I know.
 

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YouTube should start banning channels that spread misinformation now. It’s way to easy to be recommended conspiracy videos that can lead you down a radicalization path.

Now that I think about it, my shits have gotten better since Trump stopped tweeting too. Right around the same time I stopped shoving broken bottles up my ass. But I’m sure that’s just a coincidence.

It’s definitely because of the Trump ban.
 
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If big tech starts censoring AOC, Bernie Sanders, Cory Bush, and other far left democratic socialists when they try to spread awareness about DNC corruption in say the 2022 elections as many of their allies run against incumbent DNC congressmen and senators....I'm gonna laugh.

They were warned as they were supporting Big Tech censorship....and no not QAnon, I'm talking about people like Ron Paul or Keri of "Unsafe Spaces" - which is actually a center left anti-woke podcast.
 
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Education is not a magic bullet that will convince people to trust a government they have no reason to trust.

People, and governments, are judged by their actions. You should be asking why there is such a lack of trust/confidence in government to begin with. Maybe then you can address the underlying causes.
 
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How many were banned for calling XXX a Nazi?

Well, nobody? Cuz that’s not misinformation, hell no, it’s a gospel truth.

This is a Nazi now ? Might want to be more specific
 

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So what other issues should be censored from public discussion?

Since liberals have now decided private tech companies should decide the ideas and opinions we are allowed to have. You people are fucking disgusting.
I don’t know. I don’t really keep up with fringe topics. My focus is on the misinformation and how that needs to continue to be stopped right now. We don’t need more extremist being radicalized and attempting coups. Also, not a liberal, but I understand your disagreement!
 

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Breaking:
Discussion of topic plunges after ~100k people discussing topic are banned, and others are threatened with ban for further discussion of topic.

I hope someone does a study to explain how this happened. shockedpikachu.jpg

I went on the site who did the analytics and couldnt find much by what metric they define 'mis-information' so its really hard to clarify this.

Though on their site where they basically sell their services for misinformation tracking and uses the election as an example, they also state that in swing states, Liberal and Conservatives spread misinforation is equal numbers.

Again it's very hard to quantify this imo because most media is narrative based instead of impartial and objective, but I did find that tid bit interesting.
 
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Probably has more to do with banning 10's of thousands of QAnon accounts.
Keep seeing qanon around and wasn’t sure what it was, just googled it... yikes that was actually entertained? Why is the USA the only Country in the western world that has this crazy shit In large amounts. Huge chunks of people are dumb as a rock and gullible.

given the bans recently I’m guessing some of them were into that shit.
 
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Keep seeing qanon around and wasn’t sure what it was, just googled it... yikes that was actually entertained? Why is the USA the only Country in the western world that has this crazy shit In large amounts. Huge chunks of people are dumb as a rock and gullible.

given the bans recently I’m guessing some of them were into that shit.
We've literally have multiple QAnon members in Congress; 1 in the house and 1 in the senate at least off the top of my head.