GarthVaderUK
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Mistwalker's next project artwork
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Relaxed Muscle
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RyuHayate said:
Maybe based on Mistwalker history until now?
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
stuburns said:
LO, surely. Its like, currently 3X what Vesperia's done in NA alone.
Isn't it past 500k WW?
AgentOtaku
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I dig it! 
Half a million units? That's not enough. Even if they broke even, which I highly doubt, the idea is to make enough profit to warrant the project in the first place.John Harker said:
A couple of weeks ago John Davison said a ground up 'next-gen' game needs to sell around 2.5 million to make money, including promotion etc. Maybe that's a little exaggerated, but 500k is no where near.
Maybe bomb is extreme, but I consider LO a bomb considering it's a really good JRPG and a platform exclusive.
WHOAguitarninja
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Is that dude wearing a skeleton? That's pretty bad ass if he is. Skeleton + armor + tatoo+ butt cape = best char design ever.
Labombadog
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Looks amazing. Very different artwork from the average RPG. Cant wait to see what this is about!
Cygnus X-1
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stuburns said:
Actually, the handmade art is pretty good. The subject can be topic of discussion instead...
nelsonroyale
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Its okay...face doesn't match the menacing props
the cry on one looks far better
the cry on one looks far better
FateBreaker
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Aeana said:
...There was never any association. That is a total inference and has not been officially connected.
In other news, ZOMG!!!!
Lost Odyssey II? ZOMG ZOMG...Kill Your Masters
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If LO is a bomb, what are all the other console jrpgs that got released so far? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think any other jrpg was/is performing better in the west (or worldwide)stuburns said:
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Grivenger said:
I'm not sure how that's even remotely possible.
And 2.5 million sales to be profitable is absurd. Maybe MGS4, and even that's a stretch.
500k is profitable for the majority of games out there. Some people have a crazy understanding of how much it costs to make the average game.
It has a huge lead as the #1 selling next gen jrpg in the west, aside from mass effect its #1 on xbox
Cygnus X-1
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stuburns said:
I meant that we can discuss about the decision to draw this specific subject instead of another one. An handmade picture can be of great quality, but also have a very bad subject.
For example, if you don't like the subject "snow and mountains", doesn't matter how accurately it is, you will hate it anyway.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Dragons and swords...hell yeahhhh
TheChillyAcademic
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inner-G said:
I came.
Edit: Though to be fair, the intricacy of the image is impressive if not a bit...well exaggerated.
Oh, you're saying the imagine shows technical proficiency regardless of the character designs.Cygnus X-1 said:
I don't disagree. It's nicely drawn hideous art.
It depends on what you consider a bomb I guess. It's performed well for a JRPG this generation. But it's also not sold very well as a game in general.Hellraizer said:
I think of a 'bomb' as something that doesn't do well for the company financially. Regardless of if it does well in comparison to similar products.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Ridiculous, but for some reason I love it. I guess I just dig elaborate armor, and that little splash of color is a nice touch.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
John Harker said:
mass effect is not a jrpg and fable 2 / oblivion are higher if you count wrpgs, but yeah it's the highest jrpg.
SilverLunar
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Wow this is nicegregor7777 said:I always loved this one, however I have no idea what project it could be related to:
is there any more of this??
HowardRoark
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gregor7777 said:
Much more impressed with this. Looks Miyazaki / Team Ico, which is an awesome thing.
gregor7777
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SilverLunar said:Wow this is nice
is there any more of this??
Not really.
http://www.mistwalkercorp.com/en/gallery_eng/gallery1_eng.html
Mistwalker's site is basically Sakaguchi's blog. I think they pretty much just surf and fuck around all day with Microsoft's money.
I love them though.
stuburns said:
Given that not a single person in this thread knows whether LO did "well for the company financially", don't you think we have a bit of ass talk going on here? By your standard above, of course.
Kill Your Masters
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gregor7777 said:Not really.
http://www.mistwalkercorp.com/en/gallery_eng/gallery1_eng.html
Mistwalker's site is basically Sakaguchi's blog. I think they pretty much just surf and fuck around all day with Microsoft's money.
I love them though.
What the?
:lol
The important question is if MS was satisfied with the sales of the game or not. If they receive new funds from MS I wouldn't really see their games as bombs.
We don't know the specifics for LO. But we know what other companies consider a successful product, and we know LO wouldn't met those criteria.gregor7777 said:
Microsoft have already funded the studio. Their console games are 360 exclusive anyway. We'll never know, unless they tell us, who is funding their projects. But I think MS wouldn't mind making a loss on a couple of games. If it improves their image in the Japanese market. I'm sure they have a ton of criteria on which to base a success, Mistwalker only really have profit to go on.Hellraizer said:
:lol :lol :lol :lolgregor7777 said:Not really.
http://www.mistwalkercorp.com/en/gallery_eng/gallery1_eng.html
Mistwalker's site is basically Sakaguchi's blog. I think they pretty much just surf and fuck around all day with Microsoft's money.
I love them though.
gregor7777
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stuburns said:
stuburns said:
something doesn't fit....
SilverLunar
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Wow, that is better than i though! :lol :lolgregor7777 said:Not really.
http://www.mistwalkercorp.com/en/gallery_eng/gallery1_eng.html
Mistwalker's site is basically Sakaguchi's blog. I think they pretty much just surf and fuck around all day with Microsoft's money.
I love them though.
John Harker said:
I believe the podcast in question where 2.5 was mentioned was based on a discussion of the last Tomb Raider, which I could kind of see that game needing 2.5mil sold because it was released on so many platforms, which obviously increases the manpower and resources needed. but yeah, I think 2.5mil units to break even is reserved only for the biggest of the big games that are guaranteed to hit several million sales: GTA, MGS, CoD, RE etc.
A JRPG that's not a mainline Square Enix project is not going to get that sort of budget.
What? Those statements aren't contradictory in any sense.gregor7777 said:
I'll try and explain for you in case I wasn't clear. We don't know the specifics of LOs budget, but we do know that other companies consider similar sales numbers, a bomb, for example we know Mirror's Edge sold over a million and EA consider it a bomb.
The other statement was, being first doesn't always mean winning. If you still don't make a profit it's still a bomb.