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[pramath]

Did a search, found nothing, lock if old.

Anyway, Miyamoto called the first direct shots at the Vita in an interview with EDGE.

"It's obviously a very hi-spec machine and you can do lots of things with it, but I don't really see the combination of software and hardware that really makes a very strong product," said Miyamoto. "But I can't really say"

He concluded: "I'm not looking at Vita as happy that it's not selling well, or scared that it would sell well - I'm not looking at Vita that way."

To be fair, he identified the same issues with the 3DS launch:

When we launched the 3DS hardware we didn't have Super Mario 3D Land, we didn't have Mario Kart 7, we didn't have Kid Icarus: Uprising," he said. "We were striving to have all of these ready for the launch, but we weren't able to deliver them at that time.

"We were kind of hoping that people would, nevertheless, buy into the product, find 3DS hardware promising, but looking back we have to say we realise the key software was missing when we launched the hardware."

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It's the same problem he is identifying that everybody on this board has been calling the Vita out for for months now- it doesn't matter how hi specced your hardware is, a game machine is defined by its games, and Vita, for now at least, lacks any defining games.

 

[Vinci]

Yeah, um... he's right.

 

[Matt]

Perfectly reasonable.

Still, people will find a reason to flame him.

 

[InsaneZero]

Just link directly to the EDGE interview for further context: http://www.edge-online.com/news/miyamoto-vita-needs-games

 

[OldJadedGamer]

Smart people say smart things.

 

[thekonamicode]

Didn't the psp have this identical problem 6 years ago?

 

[alr1ght]

OT, but I really hate people that make a blog post about a blog post, then proceed to post it around for free hits.

here is the source: http://www.edge-online.com/news/miyamoto-vita-needs-games

 

[darkside31337]

I feel the same way about my 3DS. Only it's not even a high spec machine. Still his opinion is reasonable, don't see the big deal.

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

lol

 

[Baconsammy]

Hard to argue with it, but I also applied his logic to my 3DS right before I traded it in. Not all that impressed with my Vita either, but it has Lumines, so I'm keeping it.

 

[gogojira]

He also called a direct shot on the 3DS, comparing its launch issues to the Vita. It's not quite the blow people are pretending it is. In fact, he's merely stating a fact.

 

[east of eastside]

Vita is "console - lite" portable gaming which is effectively dead.

Nintendo owns the only relevant dedicated portable gameplayer software formula now.

 

[Dragon]

Perfectly reasonable.

Still, people will find a reason to flame him.

I find a reason to flame him for making the same games over and over again. The Vita doesn't have a strong identity though, he's right.

 

[BurntPork]

Is this the week of titles with badly paraphrased quotes or something?

In before, "Well what does that make 3DS then!?"

 

[wrowa]

To be fair, he admitted in the same interview that the 3DS had the same problems in terms of software in the beginning.

"When we launched the 3DS hardware we didn't have Super Mario 3D Land, we didn't have Mario Kart 7, we didn't have Kid Icarus: Uprising," he said. "We were striving to have all of these ready for the launch, but we weren't able to deliver them at that time.

"We were kind of hoping that people would, nevertheless, buy into the product, find 3DS hardware promising, but looking back we have to say we realise the key software was missing when we launched the hardware."

 

[Trevelyan]

Didn't the psp have this identical problem 6 years ago?

Didn't the 3DS have this identical problem 1 year ago? I somewhat agree, but the at this point I'm happier with the Vita then I ever was with my 3DS at this time last time. I love them both, though, and am quite excited to see what the future holds

 

[Valnen]

The same thing was true for the 3DS when it first came out, short of the powerful hardware that is. It'll get better.

 

[Zekes!]

I bet Miyamoto plays a ton of visual novels on his PSP

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

 

[stuminus3]

I like how the bullshit blog post in the OP completely ignores the rest of the interview, where he talks about the 3DS having teething troubles for exactly the same reason.

3DS, however, has been Japan's best-selling hardware every single week since last August's price cut - and Miyamoto admits it was a lack of software that held back Nintendo's glasses-free 3D handheld.

"When we launched the 3DS hardware we didn't have Super Mario 3D Land, we didn't have Mario Kart 7, we didn't have Kid Icarus: Uprising," he said. "We were striving to have all of these ready for the launch, but we weren't able to deliver them at that time.

"We were kind of hoping that people would, nevertheless, buy into the product, find 3DS hardware promising, but looking back we have to say we realise the key software was missing when we launched the hardware."

In other words, Vita, like 3DS, needs games, and there are few owners of Sony's new handheld who would disagree with that sentiment. Despite a wide range of launch software, Vita releases since have been thin on the ground; the next big release for the system is Gravity Rush, due in the west in June.

Fucking internet, full of cunts. Stupid sensationalist click hungry cock bags.

 

[Teknoman]

Didn't the psp have this identical problem 6 years ago?

Pretty much, unfortunately. 3DS actually had this problem until they started to roll out games that were original or werent ports of recent games.
I seriously hope both companies learn from this, when launching their new home consoles.

 

[Karsticles]

I feel the same way about my 3DS. Only it's not even a high spec machine. Still his opinion is reasonable, don't see the big deal.

That's you, but it's not most 3DS owners. Personally, I can't even keep my hands off it for a day because of the two games I own that are so fun on it.

 

[Salvadora]

Hard to argue with it, but I also applied his logic to my 3DS right before I traded it in. Not all that impressed with my Vita either, but it has Lumines, so I'm keeping it.

We knew big games were coming for the 3DS, We don't for the Vita. That's a big difference.

 

[Sol..]

SHOULDA BEEN A PHON

 

[Winnie the Pimp]

yep, for it to succeed commercially, Vita does need :

a) Identity

b) system seller exclusives



I will still get one obviously but that's not enough for the masses to embrace it

 

[Loudninja]

He is right on that point though.

Launch system have these issues,but its subjective.

 

[iamshadowlark]

Software really isn't that big a problem to solve though. I honestly think price is what makes Vita a weak product.

 

[Kazuma Kiryu]

"When we launched the 3DS hardware we didn't have Super Mario 3D Land, we didn't have Mario Kart 7, we didn't have Kid Icarus: Uprising," he said. "We were striving to have all of these ready for the launch, but we weren't able to deliver them at that time.

"We were kind of hoping that people would, nevertheless, buy into the product, find 3DS hardware promising, but looking back we have to say we realise the key software was missing when we launched the hardware."

you really should quote this before this thread goes out in flames.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Smart people say smart things.

hard to disagree.'


as has been said, it needs an identity. Software that sets it truly apart. Games need to be made that simply can't be experienced on other devices.

 

[sphinx]

pretty ballsy from him to talk about Vita or pre-price drop 3DS, both are rather sad, pathetic cases.

 

[ismk]

Shots have been fired! DUCK!

Joking aside, he's right.

 

[Degen]

I like how the bullshit blog post in the OP completely ignores the rest of the interview, where he talks about the 3DS having teething troubles for exactly the same reason.

Fucking internet, full of cunts.

tell us how you really feel

 

[FlashbladeGAF]

Just link directly to the EDGE interview for further context: http://www.edge-online.com/news/miyamoto-vita-needs-games

Thank you!

Seems like Bloggers like starting wars

Miyamoto admitted in the same interview that the 3ds was lacking at launch as well...

The 3DS had its software struggles as well, which leads Miyamoto to admit that software support wasn't strong right out of the gate.

"When we launched the 3DS hardware we didn't have Super Mario 3D Land, we didn't have Mario Kart 7, we didn't have Kid Icarus: Uprising. We were striving to have all of these ready for the launch, but we weren't able to deliver them at that time. We were kind of hoping that people would, nevertheless, buy into the product, find 3DS hardware promising, but looking back we have to say we realise the key software was missing when we launched the hardware."

EDIT: beaten by stuminus3

 

[Salvadora]

Software really isn't that big a problem to solve though. I honestly think price is what makes Vita a weak product.

Software is a very big problem to solve.

 

[Criminal Upper]

Right now, it's not. But it's usually like this a few months after launch.

 

[Partition]

I find a reason to flame him for making the same games over and over again. The Vita doesn't have a strong identity though, he's right.

Oh please, no one whines about a new COD every year or so. At least Nintendo tries to do new things with their franchises, even if that means revolving them around a gimmick. Though Pokemon literally is probably the same game it was back in 1999.

 

[MisterHero]

He likened the situation to 3DS's problems, there's nothing advantageous by saying that

 

[Sir_Crocodile]

Did a search, found nothing, lock if old.

Anyway, Miyamoto called the first direct shots at the Vita in an interview with EDGE.



SOURCE

It's the same problem he is identifying that everybody on this board has been calling the Vita out for for months now- it doesn't matter how hi specced your hardware is, a game machine is defined by its games, and Vita, for now at least, lacks any defining games.

Instead of using that garbage flamebait article which doesn't even direct link to source, you could use this:

http://www.edge-online.com/news/miyamoto-vita-needs-games

Where he talks about how the 3ds had the same problems

 

[east of eastside]

Why can't dedicated portable game machines just die already? They are going to soon anyway?

 

[Cramoss]

you really should quote this before this thread goes out in flames.

My first thought.

 

[chubigans]

Instead of using that garbage flaimbait article, you could use this one:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-05-04-miyamoto-vita-isnt-currently-a-strong-product

Where he talks about how the 3ds had the same problems

That article isn't the original article either! Jeez people.

 

[Trevelyan]

you really should quote this before this thread goes out in flames.

It's that quote that gets me really excited for the WiiU launch.

 

[Medalion]

Did a search, found nothing, lock if old.

Anyway, Miyamoto called the first direct shots at the Vita in an interview with EDGE.



SOURCE

It's the same problem he is identifying that everybody on this board has been calling the Vita out for for months now- it doesn't matter how hi specced your hardware is, a game machine is defined by its games, and Vita, for now at least, lacks any defining games.

Shots fucking fired.

 

[Rush2thestart]

Is this the week of titles with badly paraphrased quotes or something?

In before, "Well what does that make 3DS then!?"

Seriously, that Kid Icarus/Sakurai topic was just embarassing.

 

[DR2K]

The same thing was true for the 3DS when it first came out, short of the powerful hardware that is. It'll get better.

It did, with Nintendo games we knew were coming. Sony just doesn't have a strong enough first party to back it up.

 

[Tokubetsu]

Miyamoto clowning ninjas.

 

[The Elite]

Well, I'm loving my Vita and not getting much out of my 3DS at the moment. They're both great pieces of hardware that struggled out of the gate. I'm glad the original article addresses that. Miyamoto stresses some important points. I think the Vita needs to re-position itself with a $199 price point and maybe hit a few new notes on the ad campaign. It's a fun system that brings the console experience to life in your hands. Stress that. The ads right now are really uninspired.

Vita doom and gloomers on NeoGAF are a joke. Just like the 3DS ones were a year ago.

No one is denying the Vita's struggles but I get the impression some people want it to fail, just cause, and will find every quote to prove that it will.

 

[dreamer3kx]

Why can't dedicated portable game machines just die already? They are going to soon anyway?

Why, why would you want that, Nintendos portables have been awesome, so much good stuff.

 

[muu]

Bloggers omitting parts of a source article to make them look more inflammatory and generate more hits? I'm shocked!

 

[JuxJuxJux]

Oh wow, this. I lol'd.