Mobile Suit Gundam Iron Blooded Orphans S2TEKKADAN is MURDERERS, HAIL GHALLARJORN

I get the sense that maybe Nagai and Okada really butted heads on how the series would end. Nagai felt that the majority of the cast should have died, and Okada wanted a more light bittersweet ending. To be honest, I'm really happy Okada won out in the end personally.

Thankfully. If they all died what would have been the overall message? Big governments with all the power and resources will always win out over the little and any resistance or attempts at change are pointless?

That ain't the spirit of Gundam at all.

Yamagi more popular than mika, nice https://twitter.com/Cure_makopi/status/851451716662771713

The fact that Ein is even fucking on this list bothers me so much. McGillis and Gallieo are definite hunks of this franchise though.


Man I love this smug handsome bastard so much
 
That being said, the implication in the finale was that Atra and Kuelia did indeed hook up somewhere in the time skip.
I believe they are just fellow Guardians of Mika Jr. and not really in love with each other. Just so they can get child benefits and protections for Mika Jr.
 

Paltheos

Member
Thankfully. If they all died what would have been the overall message? Big governments with all the power and resources will always win out over the little and any resistance or attempts at change are pointless?

That ain't the spirit of Gundam at all.

I posted this a few pages back but maybe it just got lost.

The lesson IBO as a whole teaches is simple: Change is possible with political and actual force (S1) but not brute force alone (S2). I'm sure there's more you can say than that, but that's the point at its simplest.

Even if they had all died, this message already rang through loud and clear. Killing everyone wasn't really necessary though and I'm particularly surprised killing Kudelia was on the table? Because I don't see any rationale for that and that looks pretty clearly like a mistake.
 

Shard

XBLAnnoyance
I believe they are just fellow Guardians of Mika Jr. and not really in love with each other. Just so they can get child benefits and protections for Mika Jr.

And this is why I was annoyed at the final episode, for resorting to mere implication and like clockwork we get the plausible deniability crowd.
 
If everyone but Atra (and that baby) died, that would have been the most Tomino ending ever. He would have been so belt with this team and thought he found his successor
 
If everyone but Atra (and that baby) died, that would have been the most Tomino ending ever. He would have been so belt with this team and thought he found his successor

Well it would be as a proper Tomino ending but not the most. He kills the entire cast or resets the universe on more than one occasion.
 
If everyone but Atra (and that baby) died, that would have been the most Tomino ending ever. He would have been so belt with this team and thought he found his successor
To me the most depressing Tomino ending is still Zeta Gundam's with how Kamille ends up. But I guess it gets rectified in ZZ Gundam with Kamille getting better towards the end of that show.
 

Kenstar

Member
The US did some terrible shit to the japanese with the internment camps + 2 nukes and still helped out and didn't shit on them after victory

So I can see Rustal not being an ass for no reason after winning and not being 100% evil because he was born 100% evil or something
 

Blader

Member
Victory exist bruh. Victory.^^

A lot of the mains survive Victory.

Victory kills a lot of characters, but many of them are nobodies who were interested a couple episodes before their death, if not the same episode. I think that show's ruthlessness is a little overhyped.
 
Not sure I get your point?

My point is that in a lot of cases they were 2nd and 3rd generation citizens. They had nothing to do with Japan, other than their ancestors were born there. To point out internment as an example of treating the enemy as shit is factually incorrect.
 

Kenstar

Member
My point is that in a lot of cases they were 2nd and 3rd generation citizens. They had nothing to do with Japan, other than their ancestors were born there. To point out internment as an example of treating the enemy as shit is factually incorrect.

I'm not arguing that they weren't citizens, we all know they were
I'm saying that they had it out for them that much that the US did that to their own japanese citizens and still didn't act shitty afterwards

the fact they had nothing to do with japan shows the U.S's 'fuck japan and even fuck anything tangentially related to them' attitude
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Gaelio is that guy who, after explaining to him the system of privilege that keeps his social class in power, and why BLM is valuable even if some of their members venture into legally questionable territory, responds with "well I think All Lives Matter".
 

Eylos

Banned
Just finished, i didn't liked the ending It looked that they didn't know what to do and hated the cast, It has some inconsistences in the story, the message sux its realist but sux "popular revolution Will be obliterated, change will come from above"

I got that their sacrifice helped to bring the change, but It doesnt sux less.


I Like Sad stories, but this one sux. Orga and mcguilis act like Two dumb kids in season 2, If you know that those Spears exists why the Hell you dont have them, why hes not prepared, why this dumb coup when you are not prepared, mcguilis plan is horrible It has no backup plan its narrow minded, why he didn't made more aliances before.

Aaaaaaarrrrrr


OK i'm better, after talking this, fuck this anime.
 
I watched 3 episodes of the first season of IBO when it started airing and for some reason didn't continue until I came back to it a week ago.

I've now finished the series and I'm not so sure what to think of it. I like it, it's certainly one of the more refreshing takes on Gundam anime, and I really liked the cast overall, but I can't shake my disappointment.

I think the ending was fitting in terms of the demise of Tekkadan, how and where most of the characters ended up, and how the political landscape settled.

I'll have to reflect more on the series but presently I feel too much was left uncovered, too many loose ends remained untied, and too many questions left unanswered. It's a bit frustrating honestly, but I think ultimately it just comes down to what I perceive as lots of conflicting ideas within the show spreading time and resources to thin to tell a satisfying story that covered all the bases.
 

Keasar

Member
So, finally got to watching the second season.

...Holy fucking shit the bloodlust here was fuckin' beyond the goddamn limit, fuck!
 
Local otaku friend was telling me there is a good chance of a third story in the works. The manga and various other things already have shown and talked about several other Gundam's and pilots out there.

Supposedly will be about the area around the moon. Not sure what form that will take, seems like an animated series or OVA.
 
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