Success wise, with some solid marketing to get some recognition for the series, you would think that Konami would be able to tap into the DMC/NG/GoW etc. action fanbase a fair amount for ZoE3. Maybe even MGS:R could provide a good footing depending on how it actually plays. An awesome demo on xblm & psn would probably do a lot as long as they make people aware of it. Though it could be my ZoE2 fandom that makes me think anyone who gets their hands on it will love it :lol . Not sure about what to do to expand beyond regular action fans.
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Rice-Eater
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Give the Orbital Frame's feet, I always thought the lack of feet for the robots hindered the sales the most.
Atrophis said:
OVA and 26 episode series
I watched the OVA ( IDOLO ) and it was shit boring , it's related to ZOE universe ( and canon iirc ) but it is damn shitty , dunoo if the series are better or not.
Solune said:
Fist of Mars was cool, but it was essentially a SRW "knockoff" (I say "knockoff" because the entire alleged Konami-Banpresto conflict is often alluded to on the internet, but not substantiated in the slightest). And since most people are saying a Testament/FoM 2 should go on the DS, I feel as if the DS already has enough of SRPGs.
However, I would take a new installment of ZoE in any form if the game itself is good (and preferably based off of ZOE2's gameplay and story). Although, if a new ZOE game was to be made in this generation, I'm betting we would have a Valkyria Chronicles 2 situation on our hands (ie, 1. handhelds are the way to go, followed by 2. If it sells well, future iterations will... 3a. be put on more handhelds, or 3b. "Have its future on the consoles "looked into.").
FunkyPajamas
Member
It is a third-person action game with stylish combat, is it not? In that sense it's not really that different from Ninja Gaiden (unless NG2 increased the adventure/exploration elements, I haven't played it yet, except for the demo). DMC and God Of War had some puzzles and a bit of backtracking/exploration, so those aren't quite the same, but I think the NG1 comparisons are not completely out of whack.Totobeni said:
Anyway, if they try and market the game as a pure action title, without showing too much of the anime-inspired design, I think they might have a chance with the american public.
Hmm... how about a PSP killzone: liberation-like version? A top-down 3D action title, with the same graphical style as the previous games? How well did Liberation do? I know I loved the game, but I'm not sure if that game style is well-received in the handhelds (commercially speaking, of course).MechaX said:
I bought the Delores/Idolo pack a while back.Atrophis said:
Idolo is absolutely a must buy for every ZoE fan.
Delores I enjoyed just as much, but it's not going to go over well with fans who are only looking for mecha action. IIRC, there's a lot of comedy sprinkled in, and that will turn off the wrong people.
So basically, same as yesterday. Always have time to remind those fans in a blog that after about 6 or 7 MGS titles, and 6 years. He's still "interested" in it...He just has another 2 MGS titles in the works, and no proof to expect that the next title would be ZOE. No different than Directors or Authors who bring up that sequel/project the fans want. Talk about how they are still so interested in it. Than you get another 3 or 4 years without anything from it. But you get another 2 or 3 projects the fans didn't ask for. And then it's just rinse and repeat all over again with them stating how interested they are in it.
Of course that's jaded me, More salt for the wounds =[
Now the optimistic portion of me says, If we get anything. It'd be likely it would be a PSP title. ZOE2 was not a commercial success, So I doubt a big HD budget is going be given. I could see it squeak out as a smaller budget one on PSP.
Of course that's jaded me, More salt for the wounds =[
Now the optimistic portion of me says, If we get anything. It'd be likely it would be a PSP title. ZOE2 was not a commercial success, So I doubt a big HD budget is going be given. I could see it squeak out as a smaller budget one on PSP.
SolidSnakex
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shintoki said:
He's not saying that they're interested in it, he's saying that they are going to make it. Which is the first time he's ever committed to something like that. But it's really not possible to do right now. It's believed that Murata is the director of Rising. And if that's the case then that's going to have to be made before anything can happen with ZoE. Unless people want a new ZoE that isn't headed up by him.
thetrin
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Safe Bet said:
Why do you need to suspend your disbelief to enjoy something?
Personally, I don't like the idea of doing away with the anime elements in ZoE. That is what it's built on: real robot conventions. If we do away with that, why even call it a ZoE sequel? Just make it a new franchise. ZoE, to me, is like an off brand Gundam.
BudokaiMR2
Member
Man what I would do for one. ZoE2 really is one of my favorite games ever.
btw are the anime series any good? I actually bought some of the cheap HK subbed discs back in High school. Pretty much unwatchable because of the horrible subs though. If I could get them sent here I would probably just watch them again without subs. hah
btw are the anime series any good? I actually bought some of the cheap HK subbed discs back in High school. Pretty much unwatchable because of the horrible subs though. If I could get them sent here I would probably just watch them again without subs. hah
Femmeworth
Banned
I've been listening to the OSTs lately. We need a new ZoE if only for more awesome music.
SolidSnakex
Member
The biggest surprise for him, though, was the internal reaction at Kojima Productions. When encountering former Anubis staff members on the elevator or around the Tokyo Midtown facility that Konami calls home, he's told, "I read your BLOG. Is it true?" and "When are we going to make Anubis?" and "Please let me take part in it!".
A Mr. Omori, who did 2D work on Metal Gear solid 4 put up an Anubis display at his desk:
Kojima's reaction to all this is "Please wait a little more."
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2009/10/28/kojima_zoe_followup/
ZoE2 is my favorite game ever. Even if ZoE3 does not happen It'd be happy with an upgraded version with added online.
But I really, really want ZoE3. Sucks to hear the game didn't sell that well. All they need to do is keep the ZoE2 style/music, add more weapons maybe some new gameplay elements, keep the difficulty, the fast paced nature of it, add online and try to keep a stable framerate and it'll be perfect
But I really, really want ZoE3. Sucks to hear the game didn't sell that well. All they need to do is keep the ZoE2 style/music, add more weapons maybe some new gameplay elements, keep the difficulty, the fast paced nature of it, add online and try to keep a stable framerate and it'll be perfect
Idolo is a prequel, the first operational orbital frame and the discovery of metatron. It's a bit short but it's nothing more than a startup for Dolores and origins of orbital frames.
Dolores is also a sequel to Idolo, as the name implied, Dolores is one of the scientists that created Idolo.
Dolores actually runs parrallel to ZOE1, while ZOE1 took place on mars, Dolores took place on earth (most of the time).
Dolores is also a sequel to Idolo, as the name implied, Dolores is one of the scientists that created Idolo.
Dolores actually runs parrallel to ZOE1, while ZOE1 took place on mars, Dolores took place on earth (most of the time).
"God's Beard!"
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Totobeni said:
ZOE is the same genre. castlevania is not.
Host Samurai
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I am not going to get my hopes up until I see what platform it will be released on. Watch it be a fucking PSP game, like the majority of awesome Japanese sequels this gen. It would be a shame for this series to move to portables.
I would rather have Z.O.E 3 be a PS2 or Wii game than a damn PSP game, because we all know we will never see a Z.O.E 3 high budget cel shaded PS3 game.
I would rather have Z.O.E 3 be a PS2 or Wii game than a damn PSP game, because we all know we will never see a Z.O.E 3 high budget cel shaded PS3 game.
B.K. said:
Well, you had the Elena pinky swear with Dingo that Earthlings would never bully the Martians ever again. It wasn't a formal treaty or anything between Earth and Mars. If Fist of Mars is anything to go by, there are still a lot of factions that could become the villain in the next game.
Future PhaZe
Member
I'm a hug ZoE2 fan but knowing that whatever Kojima works on is going to require a good 3 years makes me glad that it's not his next project right now. I want to see him attempt to make a property as big as MGS and while ZoE is awesome it will never be along those lines.
FlashbladeGAF
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JapanGAF If you write to the Kojima blog please tell Kojima to have Norihiki Hibino do the soundtrack for ZOE3
I was so disappointed in MGS4 music because it didn't have the Hibino/Gregson Williams combo like it should have.
I want to be busting mech ass with some tight ass tunes playing in the background. Hibino delivered IMO with ZOE2 music. Give him a bigger budget and let him do what he does best, so ZOE3 can be the best it can possibly be.
Oh hell no! ZOE2 made your eyes bleed rainbows. I want to go into an epileptic seizure for ZOE3
HD ZOE3 PS3 PLZ
I was so disappointed in MGS4 music because it didn't have the Hibino/Gregson Williams combo like it should have.
I want to be busting mech ass with some tight ass tunes playing in the background. Hibino delivered IMO with ZOE2 music. Give him a bigger budget and let him do what he does best, so ZOE3 can be the best it can possibly be.
aerts1js said:
Oh hell no! ZOE2 made your eyes bleed rainbows. I want to go into an epileptic seizure for ZOE3
HD ZOE3 PS3 PLZ
SnakeSlashRO
Banned
Dra-Q said:
PS3 ONLY!!!
Don't make me attack you...
Femmeworth
Banned
That's great to hear. Hopefully this only futhur encourages Kojima to solidfy plans for ZOE3.SolidSnakex said:
Fimbulvetr
Member
Hellion said:
I thought there was new info you jerk! D:<
But yeah I agree, I only found a used copy of ZOE2 at a store by luck. And no, I don't know who was stupid enough to send the game back.
Fallout-NL
Member
ZoE 2 was one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen.
I still think, and feel bad, about selling my copy. I'd love a PSN version even. Wouldn't like a PSP version. Like others have said, do it right, or don't do it at all.
I still think, and feel bad, about selling my copy. I'd love a PSN version even. Wouldn't like a PSP version. Like others have said, do it right, or don't do it at all.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
I think PS4 is a good idea. I mean you'll get some improvement on the PS3, and it will certainly look good (this is Kojima Productions) but you know everyone will want him to completely blow their minds. PS4 will have the chutzpah to do everything they could ever want to do visually with the anime style and more.
Haha, it's so funny to hear about fanboy-ish excitement among those who make it. "Are we really going to do this?!" Like bored solders who overhear their general talking about blowing some shit up.SolidSnakex said:
I think ZOE would benefit greatly from motion controls. I think the basis of the series, anime and mechs, does not lend itself to the stereotypical 360 crowd. That leaves Sony and/or Nintendo platforms, all four of which would be good avenues. Personally, this is where Nintendo should step to the plate and break out the moneyhats for ZOE: Wii. (And OT, Parasite Eve: Wii).
[Guilt mongering] You should feel bad about selling your only copy. [/Guilt mongering]I bought 2 copies for cheap. I made like a 1000% profit on the one and still have my own copy. My recommendation, be slow to sell games you like. Take bets on classics.
Fallout-NL said:
[Guilt mongering] You should feel bad about selling your only copy. [/Guilt mongering]I bought 2 copies for cheap. I made like a 1000% profit on the one and still have my own copy. My recommendation, be slow to sell games you like. Take bets on classics.