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MS: PS3 will help us sell 360s

Professor K said:
I haven't read the thread. But is it the normal GAF 'any positive opinion of the 360 is shot down as being unrealistic and the PS3 will rule the universe' talk?

Read the thread and find out, there are 3 whole pages of unqualified praise for the X360.
 
Piper Az said:
Xbox360 and PS3 are comparable systems

Depending on the checklist a consumer might have in their minds when comparing systems, this may not be very true, or the degree to which it is true may be limited. The hardware is quite different on the PS3 side, in terms of what you're getting standard - it has a fair number of USPs from a hw pov (without casting judgement on the importance of those, before I'm jumped on with a million "x, y, z don't matter" retorts).

The flipside of that is, though, that they may not have comparable prices. We'll see..

And again, whilst some people may be suggestable toward alternatives, in my experience most are not. Particularly the kind of person picking up a $300-400 machine near launch.
 
Piper Az said:
Xbox360 and PS3 are comparable systems, so I would think that general public (not the ones who explicitly look for PS3s) are gonna say," You don't have PS3? Let me just get the Xbox360 then. I gotta get my kids something."

Sounds reasonable to me.

Hmm. We are talking about pricey, strong branded products here, not cheap mp3 players or cell phones that you buy because of the feature set.. I think people would rather go and check another store before giving up.
 
I don get these angsty reply to mr MS guy. He said is true. PS3 shortage will help 360. Thats all.

A simple brain activity shows, it can be the followers of Sony but more than not joe gamer on the fence ready to play next gen this christmas.
 
firefoxsux said:
I don get these angsty reply to mr MS guy. He said is true. PS3 shortage will help 360. Thats all.

A simple brain activity shows, it can be the followers of Sony but more than not joe gamer on the fence ready to play next gen this christmas.
Yeah really. This thread should have died on the first page. Surprised it's gone on this long.
 
firefoxsux said:
I don get these angsty reply to mr MS guy. He said is true. PS3 shortage will help 360. Thats all.

A simple brain activity shows, it can be the followers of Sony but more than not joe gamer on the fence ready to play next gen this christmas.

Are you really surprised? I laugh all the time at this forum's damn-near allergic reaction to anything positive relating to the 360.

The problem is that many on this forum confuse support for the console of their choice with sheer hatred of the console they feel is their rival. That animosity is an awesome thing to behold.
 
Professor K said:
I haven't read the thread. But is it the normal GAF 'any positive opinion of the 360 is shot down as being unrealistic and the PS3 will rule the universe' talk?

something like that
 
Professor K said:
Are you really surprised. I laugh all the time at this forums damn-near allergic reaction to anything positive relating to the 360.

How is this even positive about the 360? It's this PR person saying people would rather have a PS3 but instead settle for a 360 if they can't find it. That's not exactly positive.
 
SolidSnakex said:
How is this even positive about the 360? It's this PR person saying people would rather have a PS3 but instead settle for a 360 if they can't find it. That's not exactly positive.

Calm down man. I never said anything was positive. In fact, I said I didn't even read the thread.

But for the record, you are one of this forum's main sources of entertainment. Your slavish devotion to all things Playstation is hilarious.
Not knocking it actually. Nothing wrong with devotion to a console (it's when you begin to hate other consoles where it becomes a problem). But you do seem to get downright emotional when someone "offends" the great Sony.
 
Professor K said:
Not knocking it actually. Nothing wrong with devotion to a console (it's when you begin to hate other consoles where it becomes a problem). But you do seem to get downright emotional when someone "offends" the great Sony.

Is it similar to how you're currently doing with MS?
 
SolidSnakex said:
Is it similar to how you're currently doing with MS?

Please. Don't be mad because your tireless defense of all things Playstation made the "old man from Silent Hill 3" pic famous.

You've attached your self-esteem to a console. Don't blame me for that.

I prefer certain consoles. I don't hate others. Big difference. And no, I'm not saying you hate other consoles either.
 
trmas said:
As for getting the kids something, if the Nintendo machine is significantly cheaper and has some good software, parents will buy it up. Parents are concerned with price. Gamers, on the other hand, are a little more picky.

Sounds like something a 14-year-old would say.
 
Professor K said:
I haven't read the thread. But is it the normal GAF 'any positive opinion of the 360 is shot down as being unrealistic and the PS3 will rule the universe' talk?

There is some of that. MS's PR made a gaffe in semantics. There was lots of piling on.
 
maxmars said:
Hmm. We are talking about pricey, strong branded products here, not cheap mp3 players or cell phones that you buy because of the feature set.. I think people would rather go and check another store before giving up.

While I agree that people tend to do more research on $300-$500 products than say mp3 players or cells phones, I believe that the extent of research is not too far off for most people. Gamers like you and me may nit pick on things like how many wireless controllers that the console support, how many ethernet/USB ports, etc. But even a fairly product-conscience folk may not really care much about that. I have a buddy who is not a gamer but does his share of stuff when it comes to buying stuff, and he doesn't know anything between 1080i and 1080p - and nevermind some console specific features. He asks questions like "Does it have next gen graphics? Does it play Madden??? Does it play DVDs? Cool. That's all I need to hear."

Via that logic, the PS3 and Xbox360 doesn't differentiate much. Obviously, it's worse for parents...their kids want X Y and Z games...if they're for either PS3 or Xbox360 then whatever...
 
"They're going to sell everything they make because the number won't be that big. In a weird way, all they're going to do is help us sell stuff, because they're going to drive consumers into stores who want to buy something and there's no PS3 there. And so they'll say, "Great. I'll take a 360." The reason I say that is we saw a lot of that happen around the Xbox 360 launch, where we created a lot of demand and had a certain quantity. It helped PS2 sales.
Gee, that's funny... At the local Best Buy, they're selling the original Xbox like mad because they don't have any 360's. People seem to be of the opinion that it's a suitable replacement. So I don't buy this logic; if anything, people will buy PS2's in the PS3's absence.

Something that will drive sales to the 360 is the pricepoint... I mean if PS3 really does sell for 400+ (even 500), 360's going to look that much better to consumers.
 
bumpkin said:
Something that will drive sales to the 360 is the pricepoint... I mean if PS3 really does sell for 400+ (even 500), 360's going to look that much better to consumers.
why would it look "that much better" to consumers? are you talking about the retard pack? ms is already losing money on 360s, why do people still think they're gonna lower the price when ps3 comes out?
 
vantastic said:
why would it look "that much better" to consumers? are you talking about the retard pack? ms is already losing money on 360s, why do people still think they're gonna lower the price when ps3 comes out?

This is a mystery to me, too. The only situation where I would see this happening would be if Sony actually brought out the PS3 at the 360 Core's MSRP. Other than that, not fucking likely.
 
I just read the actual interview, and noticed this:

GS: OK. So, you guys said that you shipped 1.5 million Xboxes so far?

BL: Sold. Sold.

Is that a subtle jab at Sony? :lol
 
I'd be surprised if MS sees a real sales boost from the PS3 launch. Sony is launching well before the holiday season, so the initial PS3 flurry will be by people who really want a PS3, not people just looking for the big name holiday gift. Now maybe MS is counting on Sony not being able to meet demand come next holiday season, and thats possible, but if thats the case the PS3 will have to grossly outsell the X360, so yeah, those extra sales won't really matter if that happens.
 
Professor K said:
Why? I asked a question and it was answered. None of my comments were in any way inflammatory.
Professor K said:
I haven't read the thread. But is it the normal GAF 'any positive opinion of the 360 is shot down as being unrealistic and the PS3 will rule the universe' talk?
Uh-huh. That dog don't hunt.
 
Few things here.

1. I'm sure this is MS's way of putting a positive spin on the slam against them that there will still be shortages of the 360 when the ps3 launches.

2. If Johnny didn't get his 360 for Xmas2005, when he sends Mommy out to get a ps3 for $500 and they're out and Mommy sees the 360 that Johnny still wants for $350, she'll pick it up for him.

I don't think there are too many people out there looking to buy a console for themselves and buying the other one because the one they wanted was sold out... especially when you're spending $500.
 
A ps3 lauch in japan is months of free advertising for all other regions. People are going to be seeing PS3 screens and videos from japan non stop until they can buy their own. I don't think you'll see alot of people that want a ps3 buying something else because of this fact.

Of couse if the ps3 games fail to impress the masses my theory is shot.
 
bishoptl said:
Uh-huh. That dog don't hunt.

Oh wow. The infamous GAF "new guy who's a li'l too uppity so we'll give him a tag" bit. Cute.

Sorry about smacking Solidsnake's pee-pee. But I'm sure that has nothing to do with any of this, right?

Anyway, as far as the PS3 helping sell 360s, it could happen, it may not. If there's a shortage of PS3 that may very well be true. If I were MS, I'd use a solid library of good games to sell the system, not pray for shortages.
 
Professor K said:
Oh wow. The infamous GAF "new guy who's a li'l too uppity so we'll give him a tag" bit. Cute.

Sorry about smacking Solidsnake's pee-pee. But I'm sure that has nothing to do with any of this, right?

Anyway, as far as the PS3 helping sell 360s, it could happen, it may not. If there's a shortage of PS3 that may very well be true. If I were MS, I'd use a solid library of good games to sell the system, not pray for shortages.

26 posts, and already almost half of them are accusations of fanboyism, inflammatory bullshit and arguing with mods.

yeah good job so far man
 
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