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Mueller Report Released - No collusion or obstruction of justice found

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This is why we need the whole report released. Full transparency. Then one side can be right and the other can be wrong and we can move on. This whole back and forth circus about what it says or doesn't say accomplishes nothing.
Why would folks move on?

Everyone is emotionally invested. And that reporting hurls just enough innuendo and is vague enough to keep the original conspiracy going. Plus, it says just enough to open up new avenues of doubt. For example, I'm already seeing people on TV and online suggest Trump's AG is obstructing justice to protect the president therefore he must resign, be arrested, stop hiding the full report, etc.

Once you start these sort of fires you can't put them out. That's why you don't plant these kinds of ideas and implications in people's heads. However, it's clear your media doesn't give a damn. And the end result is a continued erosion of faith in everyone and everything without merit to back it up.
 

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Exactly. No criminal charges yet the Democrats want to litigate this case in public and in the media again. They will never stop. Keep the report as secret as possible. Redact everything.
That would do literally nothing to help the matter. You are saying that out of spite rather than reason. If the report is made available for everyone to see and it backs up what Trumps people are saying then that only helps your side and it weakens the Democrats position on the matter substantially.


Why would you not want that?
 
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That would do literally nothing to help the matter. You are saying that out of spite rather than reason. If the report is made available for everyone to see and it backs up what Trumps people are saying then that only helps your side and it weakens the Democrats position on the matter substantially.
This should not be a political game where one side loses and the other wins because it affects absolutely everyone. That's the biggest problem with the Mueller investigation and the way some interpret it. Everybody loses or everybody wins, no one wants a Russian puppet in the White House. You can spend all day, every day talking about the issues you have with your president's past, present and future, but he did not conspire with the Russians. That the Democrats and their media buddies are still pushing this story should have woken you up already. Regardless of whatever else is included in that report and however damaging it might be - and let's be clear here, if Trump does something as innocuous as taking a sip of alcohol conspiracy theories would go mainstream immediately - the most important point has been delivered. The Dems' position has already been substantially weakened.

If something troublesome comes out of the report then that'll be worth talking about when it's exposed, but don't fall victim to the propaganda in the meantime. AG Barr is doing what's required and Dems are being unreasonable in their demands. They can get away with that because of how easily they've manipulated public opinion over the last few years.

Fox News ratings spiked while CNN and Maddow have suffered declines since the summary of the report went public. I can take some solace in that even though they're all moving forward with business as usual.
 
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Ugh, finally. The idea that someone with Trump's mental capacity could have orchestrated something like this was always pretty laughable. The guy can barely hold a thought and is a famously abysmal businessman and he got another country to manipulate his? Being able to trick a bunch of inbred losers into voting for him doesn't make him a criminal mastermind; stop embarrassing yourselves, Democrats. Dave Chappelle was right: you can't just blame another country for your conservative problem.
 

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Ugh, finally. The idea that someone with Trump's mental capacity could have orchestrated something like this was always pretty laughable. The guy can barely hold a thought and is a famously abysmal businessman and he got another country to manipulate his? Being able to trick a bunch of inbred losers into voting for him doesn't make him a criminal mastermind; stop embarrassing yourselves, Democrats. Dave Chappelle was right: you can't just blame another country for your conservative problem.
This is a perfect example of indoctrination. Only thing missing was an Orange reference.

Good grief.
 

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This is why we need the whole report released. Full transparency. Then one side can be right and the other can be wrong and we can move on. This whole back and forth circus about what it says or doesn't say accomplishes nothing.
Yeah right. And when the full report is released and it clears Trump, AGAIN, of russian collusions then Rachel Maddow will stop her daily 1 hour of russian collusion show?

Dream on. Nothing will change, no one driving these stories actually believe them or even care, they just want the clicks from their followers.
Just like Alex Jones. Just a show for the true believers and to get clicks.
 

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Ugh, finally. The idea that someone with Trump's mental capacity could have orchestrated something like this was always pretty laughable. The guy can barely hold a thought and is a famously abysmal businessman and he got another country to manipulate his? Being able to trick a bunch of inbred losers into voting for him doesn't make him a criminal mastermind; stop embarrassing yourselves, Democrats. Dave Chappelle was right: you can't just blame another country for your conservative problem.
Xux Xux , I always like to remind people who type these types of comments that I voted for President Trump. I did so voluntarily and was not "tricked" into anything. Does knowing that there is an actual person reading what you wrote make you feel any remorse? Do you think your aggressive tone is warranted? "Inbred losers".....pretty harsh man!
 

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If the report is made available for everyone to see and it backs up what Trumps people are saying then that only helps your side and it weakens the Democrats position on the matter substantially.
Two things:
1. The conclusions of the report/investigation have already been released. No collusion. No obstruction. This is final. Subsequent release of all or parts of the report will not change any of this. So when you state that "if" the report backs up what we already know, this is just tin foil hat wearing stuff.

2. Everyone wants the report released. This is actually a bi-partisan issue. This includes the president as well. The only hiccup here is that full release of the report is actually illegal. There will and, due to existing laws, need to be some redactions. What is interesting is that congress could change these laws and make the full release legal. But they won't do this because then the "new" narrative cannot play out. The democrats, after colluding with the media for 2+ years on a fake collusion narrative have now shifted to their new narrative that something nefarious is going on with the reporting/release of Mueller report. There is no evidence to this. This is again more tin foil hat wearing stuff without evidence. Does anyone actually believe that the AG can blatantly misrepresent the report and Mueller would just stand by and not correct the record? He's stood up and corrected the record before.
 

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Two things:
1. The conclusions of the report/investigation have already been released. No collusion. No obstruction. This is final. Subsequent release of all or parts of the report will not change any of this. So when you state that "if" the report backs up what we already know, this is just tin foil hat wearing stuff.

2. Everyone wants the report released. This is actually a bi-partisan issue. This includes the president as well. The only hiccup here is that full release of the report is actually illegal. There will and, due to existing laws, need to be some redactions. What is interesting is that congress could change these laws and make the full release legal. But they won't do this because then the "new" narrative cannot play out. The democrats, after colluding with the media for 2+ years on a fake collusion narrative have now shifted to their new narrative that something nefarious is going on with the reporting/release of Mueller report. There is no evidence to this. This is again more tin foil hat wearing stuff without evidence. Does anyone actually believe that the AG can blatantly misrepresent the report and Mueller would just stand by and not correct the record? He's stood up and corrected the record before.
"The conclusions of the report/investigation have already been released. No collusion. No obstruction. This is final."

When did this happen? If you are referring to Barrs piss poor 4 page "summary" then that is frankly hilarious to me.
 

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When did this happen? If you are referring to Barrs piss poor 4 page "summary" then that is frankly hilarious to me.
You mean the summary everyone agreed on? Barr, rosenstein and mueller.
Do you think mueller and his lawyers would stand by if his friend barr would misrepresent his findings (which already isnt happening because his findings are no new indictments)?
The fools that still try to string you along for as long as possible for 2020 with "what if" scenarios and already debunked bullshit are just selling you again.. bullshit.
Beware of ridiculous bullshit from the usual sources of ridiculous bullshit, especially when it looks and smells exactly like the ridiculous bullshit they sold you on for two years.
 
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You mean the summary everyone agreed on? Barr, rosenstein and mueller.
Do you think mueller and his lawyers would stand by if his friend barr would misrepresent his findings (which already isnt happening because his findings are no new indictments)?

So yeah there is still debate going on amongst Mueller's teams. So yeah I believe transparency is right answer.
 

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So yeah there is still debate going on amongst Mueller's teams. So yeah I believe transparency is right answer.
No actual sources, a third hand report. You are providing sources that ran false information for 2.5 years. Do I actually need to explain why misinformation like that could be an issue going forward?
 

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No actual sources, a third hand report. You are providing sources that ran false information for 2.5 years. Do I actually need to explain why misinformation like that could be an issue going forward?
He's not smart enough to realize why he should be embarrassed.
 

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"The conclusions of the report/investigation have already been released. No collusion. No obstruction. This is final."

When did this happen? If you are referring to Barrs piss poor 4 page "summary" then that is frankly hilarious to me.
So you are continuing to push a narrative with no evidence. Okay. It's your prerogative but don't expect anyone to take you seriously. I will entertain your narrative if you can bring any evidence to the table to support it.
 
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Melluer just likes to fuck around guys. He just given Putin a little extra breathing room by allowing his puppet to sit as president. Its Muellers little joke. All part of his plan to make Trump and Republicans and FOX news think Trump is in the clear and then BAM NI will read the report and find the collusion and Trump will be hauled off to jail in that same contraption as Hannibal Lecture in Silence of the Lambs.

Its just the long game Mueller is playing. He has all the collusion evidence its just in secret code in the report. Thats why Barr and Rodestein couldn't find it. Once the report is released the invisible ink becomes visible and all the collusion will be spelled out. Mueller just needs to keep a compromised Russian agent as the President for a few more weeks for reasons.
 

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I honestly don't think Barr should release any of the report at this point. Not a single page.

The media and Congress have shown us time and again that they simply cannot be trusted to handle this information in an ethical manner. They've given us a large enough sample size to know they will only use it to mislead and confuse the public. They will bring in policy advocates to blatantly lie about the legal standard. They will pay career disiformation experts from our counterintelligence agencies to falsely claim they know more than they do. And they will repeat and amplify the nonsense and insanity until their ratings can't sustain it anymore. We don't have a free press anymore, and it's now apparent that we haven't for quite some time.

Barr's summary is sufficient and anyone downplaying its accuracy or value is lying. To release the full report is to be an accomplice in the subsequent assault upon the public interest
 

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So yeah there is still debate going on amongst Mueller's teams. So yeah I believe transparency is right answer.

Hhaahahaahahahahahahahah

Here is the source article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/03/us/politics/william-barr-mueller-report.html

"Some of Robert S. Mueller III’s investigators have told associates that Attorney General William P. Barr failed to adequately portray the findings of their inquiry and that they were more troubling for President Trump than Mr. Barr indicated, according to government officials and others familiar with their simmering frustrations."

Let me translate that for you:

SOMEBODY TOLD SOMEBODY THAT Attorney General William P. Barr failed TO SAY EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANTED HIM TO SAY, according to government SOMEBODIES AND OTHER SOMEBODIES.

I mean, that story is trash.

That's the f'ing New York times publishing hearsay of hearsay, with 3 levels of anonymous telephone, and you think that means we need 'transparency'? Imma going to go on record and say the media's bias is already transparent.

Hey, my friend told my other friend that his friend says you didn't summarize a 300 page document right. Russians!

Credit to Tim pool for originally pointing out the source article.

 

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This has as much validity as Pizzagate at this point.
Pizzagate at least had legitimately creepy artwork attached.... penises spurting pizza, people screwing on pizza, creepy kid related art.... people making strange comments about wanting a slice of Haitian pizza, etc.... russiagate doesn't even have any Russians, let alone Russian porn.
 

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So yeah there is still debate going on amongst Mueller's teams. So yeah I believe transparency is right answer.
I dont even get your point, even if i hit my head and forget the past 3 years full of anti trump "sources familiar with the matter" nonsense, meaning even if i believe this story its still already a fact that nothing would rise to the point of a crime since mueller doesn't recommend any more indictments, so this all feels like empty wailing and desperation from the media.

 
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Blows my mind that anyone would be against releasing this report to the public. Regardless of your political leanings it should be up to voters to decide how the results of the investigation will affect their preferences going into the next election.

People who don't think it should be released, is there anything that Trump could do that make you uneasy? Or he truly is so trustworthy that you feel comfortable giving him carte blanche to do whatever with no oversight? After Trump very publicly expressed disappointment that Sessions didn't recuse himself I can absolutely understand why people wouldn't be satisfied with a summary written by Barr.

Transparency is a critical in a democracy. If you don't trust mainstream news sources, don't read or watch them. If the report is made public people can read it themselves. Whether or not they do is their own business, but keeping a President's actions secret from his constituents because some people are afraid others will let CNN think for them is absurd, and the idea that only some people are intelligent enough to correctly parse something like the report and that that is justification to bury it is undemocratic, I can't imagine a convincing argument otherwise.

How has this thread title not been edited by the way? Mod team doesn't care whether thread titles accurately reflect news? If it described accurately who exactly the report has been released to how would it read?
 
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Blows my mind that anyone would be against releasing this report to the public. Regardless of your political leanings it should be up to voters to decide how the results of the investigation will affect their preferences going into the next election.

People who don't think it should be released, is there anything that Trump could do that make you uneasy? Or he truly is so trustworthy that you feel comfortable giving him carte blanche to do whatever with no oversight? After Trump very publicly expressed disappointment that Sessions didn't recuse himself I can absolutely understand why people wouldn't be satisfied with a summary written by Barr.

Transparency is a critical in a democracy. If you don't trust mainstream news sources, don't read or watch them. If the report is made public people can read it themselves. Whether or not they do is their own business, but keeping a President's actions secret from his constituents because some people are afraid others will let CNN think for them is absurd, and the idea that only some people are intelligent enough to correctly parse something like the report and that that is justification to bury it is undemocratic, I can't imagine a convincing argument otherwise.

How has this thread title not been edited by the way? Mod team doesn't care whether thread titles accurately reflect news? If it described accurately who exactly the report has been released to how would it read?

That has more to do with the media than IQ. Most people only casually follow what's happening in news and politics, and several mainstream sources are plowing ahead with conspiracy theory nonsense.
Which mainstream outlets have published straight-up conspiracy theories?

Edit: Whoops, sorry for the double-post. Apparently you can only edit a post for five minutes after writing it?
 
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Blows my mind that anyone would be against releasing this report to the public. Regardless of your political leanings it should be up to voters to decide how the results of the investigation will affect their preferences going into the next election.

People who don't think it should be released, is there anything that Trump could do that make you uneasy? Or he truly is so trustworthy that you feel comfortable giving him carte blanche to do whatever with no oversight? After Trump very publicly expressed disappointment that Sessions didn't recuse himself I can absolutely understand why people wouldn't be satisfied with a summary written by Barr.

Transparency is a critical in a democracy. If you don't trust mainstream news sources, don't read or watch them. If the report is made public people can read it themselves. Whether or not they do is their own business, but keeping a President's actions secret from his constituents because some people are afraid others will let CNN think for them is absurd, and the idea that only some people are intelligent enough to correctly parse something like the report and that that is justification to bury it is undemocratic, I can't imagine a convincing argument otherwise.

How has this thread title not been edited by the way? Mod team doesn't care whether thread titles accurately reflect news? If it described accurately who exactly the report has been released to how would it read?
The thread title reflects that the AG will not be bringing any charges for either collusion or obstruction. If that changes I will edit it. It requires me asking a moderator to change it, so unless the details greatly change I’m not going to bother them. I’ve kept most of the latest details on the OP.

I don’t think there are many people here against releasing the report. Most of us would like the legal process to play out and are willing to give Barr and Mueller time to make the required redactions.
 
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Blows my mind that anyone would be against releasing this report to the public. Regardless of your political leanings it should be up to voters to decide how the results of the investigation will affect their preferences going into the next election.

People who don't think it should be released, is there anything that Trump could do that make you uneasy? Or he truly is so trustworthy that you feel comfortable giving him carte blanche to do whatever with no oversight? After Trump very publicly expressed disappointment that Sessions didn't recuse himself I can absolutely understand why people wouldn't be satisfied with a summary written by Barr.

Transparency is a critical in a democracy. If you don't trust mainstream news sources, don't read or watch them. If the report is made public people can read it themselves. Whether or not they do is their own business, but keeping a President's actions secret from his constituents because some people are afraid others will let CNN think for them is absurd, and the idea that only some people are intelligent enough to correctly parse something like the report and that that is justification to bury it is undemocratic, I can't imagine a convincing argument otherwise.

How has this thread title not been edited by the way? Mod team doesn't care whether thread titles accurately reflect news? If it described accurately who exactly the report has been released to how would it read?
I am not against bringing out the report, but what is it going to tell you? Mueller already said no more indictments, and Barr basically has nothing to go forward to charge Trump with. Its done there is nothing that is going to come from the Mueller report. Do you really think your average American is going to find more crimes in the report than Mueller/Barr/Rodstein?

Be honest you want the report released because you hope there is some dirt in there that has nothing to do with collusion that the media and leftist can spin to make the President look bad. Even the most minute detail like he eats two desserts or likes Pepsi over Coke will be spun.

Once the report comes out we all know the goal post will be moved. One it will be the redactions are hiding the real crimes. The next it will be we need to read every witness statement. Then it will be we need to read every Subeona. And so on and so on.

People who want to see the report are acting like babies. They want it now, don't care about the law and legalities of redaction, and actually think that Mueller/Barr/Rodestein are covering up for a compromised Russian agent. And as far as obstruction, when there is no underlying crime there is nothing to obstruct.
 

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The more the Democrats and the liberal leaning media sites like Washington Post keep pushing the line, the more they are weakened in the eyes of the general public. This is a for profit based witch hunt and always has been. Keep the clocks coming though! In the end, this only keeps Trump in office for a second term.
 

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Blows my mind that anyone would be against releasing this report to the public. Regardless of your political leanings it should be up to voters to decide how the results of the investigation will affect their preferences going into the next election.
Strawman. No one here is against the report being released. You lot are whining because it is not being released immediately and will be redacted, both of which are necessitated by law. And I guarantee that you will continue to whine over redactions after the report is released.

Just take the L already. You have nothing. Schiff, Maddow, etc. lied to you.
 
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The thread title reflects that the AG will not be bringing any charges for either collusion or obstruction. If that changes I will edit it. It requires me asking a moderator to change it, so unless the details greatly change I’m not going to bother them. I’ve kept most of the latest details on the OP.

I don’t think there are many people here against releasing the report. Most of us would like the legal process to play out and are willing to give Barr and Mueller time to make the required redactions.
Makes sense. The title isn't a lie or anything... but like I said it could definitely be more accurate. I think it would reasonable to read that title and assume that the report had been made available to a general audience, or at least to Congress or something like that. Something like "Mueller Report is Concluded" would be closer to the truth.

I am not against bringing out the report, but what is it going to tell you? Mueller already said no more indictments, and Barr basically has nothing to go forward to charge Trump with. Its done there is nothing that is going to come from the Mueller report. Do you really think your average American is going to find more crimes in the report than Mueller/Barr/Rodstein?

Be honest you want the report released because you hope there is some dirt in there that has nothing to do with collusion that the media and leftist can spin to make the President look bad. Even the most minute detail like he eats two desserts or likes Pepsi over Coke will be spun.

Once the report comes out we all know the goal post will be moved. One it will be the redactions are hiding the real crimes. The next it will be we need to read every witness statement. Then it will be we need to read every Subeona. And so on and so on.

People who want to see the report are acting like babies. They want it now, don't care about the law and legalities of redaction, and actually think that Mueller/Barr/Rodestein are covering up for a compromised Russian agent. And as far as obstruction, when there is no underlying crime there is nothing to obstruct.
It's my understand that Barr and Mueller believe a sitting President can not legally be indicted, making the situation more complex than "No indictments means everything's A OK."

Strawman. No one here is against the report being released. You lot are whining because it is not being released immediately and will be redacted, both of which are necessitated by law. And I guarantee that you will continue to whine over redactions after the report is released.

Just take the L already. You have nothing. Schiff, Maddow, etc. lied to you.
Not sure why so many people on this forum are so quick to draw lines between themselves and anyone else they remotely disagree with. I don't watch any news on TV, let alone Maddow. My identity isn't wrapped up enough in politics that I would consider anything a politician does or has done to them a personal win or loss.

"No one here is against the report being released"? There's literally a post a few above yours on this very page saying they don't think it should be. Read the thread before making blanket statements.

I never said I feel a need for the report to be released immediately. Just that I think it should be, and that I don't see the value in assuming what's in it before it's been actually released. Again, Trump has very publicly stated he wouldn't have hired Sessions if he had know he would recuse himself. If the report comes on and does completely exonerate him, great. But I don't think it's foolish to want to see the report rather than take Barr's word at face value.
 
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It's my understand that Barr and Mueller believe a sitting President can not legally be indicted, making the situation more complex than "No indictments means everything's A OK."
So instead they are going to leave a President in office who colluded with Russians and is a Putin puppet?

No indictments means no one will be charged with any more crimes from the conclusion of the investigation. What else is there aside from dirty laundry and tabloid sleaze? People just want to read that Trump picks his nose and eats it or farts in peoples faces.

Let me ask you, what will the full report tell you or any other average American? You think you are going to find the missing piece of evidence that Mueller burried and Barr/Rodestein under Trumps orders decided to hide away? Even though it was known all along that the report would be released?

Nothing against releasing the report when its ready, but I am really curious what crimes you think will be unearthed once the report is released? What is Barr hiding and why is Mueller keeping his mouth shut about this mountain of evidence?
 
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So instead they are going to leave a President in office who colluded with Russians and is a Putin puppet?

No indictments means no one will be charged with any more crimes from the conclusion of the investigation. What else is there aside from dirty laundry and tabloid sleaze? People just want to read that Trump picks his nose and eats it or farts in peoples faces.

Let me ask you, what will the full report tell you or any other average American? You think you are going to find the missing piece of evidence that Mueller burried and Barr/Rodestein under Trumps orders decided to hide away? Even though it was known all along that the report would be released?

Nothing against releasing the report when its ready, but I am really curious what crimes you think will be unearthed once the report is released? What is Barr hiding and why is Mueller keeping his mouth shut about this mountain of evidence?
Why do you think I'm chomping at the bit to see a list of crimes? Calm down. When the report I'll see what's in it, I haven't really spent any time considering exactly what I do or don't expect to see.
 

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Makes sense. The title isn't a lie or anything... but like I said it could definitely be more accurate. I think it would reasonable to read that title and assume that the report had been made available to a general audience, or at least to Congress or something like that. Something like "Mueller Report is Concluded" would be closer to the truth.



It's my understand that Barr and Mueller believe a sitting President can not legally be indicted, making the situation more complex than "No indictments means everything's A OK."



Not sure why so many people on this forum are so quick to draw lines between themselves and anyone else they remotely disagree with. I don't watch any news on TV, let alone Maddow. My identity isn't wrapped up enough in politics that I would consider anything a politician does or has done to them a personal win or loss.

"No one here is against the report being released"? There's literally a post a few above yours on this very page saying they don't think it should be. Read the thread before making blanket statements.

I never said I feel a need for the report to be released immediately. Just that I think it should be, and that I don't see the value in assuming what's in it before it's been actually released. Again, Trump has very publicly stated he wouldn't have hired Sessions if he had know he would recuse himself. If the report comes on and does completely exonerate him, great. But I don't think it's foolish to want to see the report rather than take Barr's word at face value.
Oh, I misunderstood. I thought you didn’t like the second part of the title. Someone complained about that the other week so my mind went there instead. I see what you mean now. Maybe “Report released to AG” would be more accurate. I’m just going to leave it for now since I can’t easily edit it myself and it’s probably due for another update soon anyways when the redacted report hits in a week or so.
 
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That would do literally nothing to help the matter. You are saying that out of spite rather than reason. If the report is made available for everyone to see and it backs up what Trumps people are saying then that only helps your side and it weakens the Democrats position on the matter substantially.


Why would you not want that?
I want them to follow the same damn rules that they wanted because of the Clinton special counsel investigation. Why wouldn't you want that? Why shouldn't the people who make rules to benefit themselves have to live with the adverse consequences when it prevents them from slinging mud that they said was out of bounds when coming up with the law? How is good for ye, but not for me something we should condone?
 

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The report that was released to the public 2 days after it was submitted to Congress (not the AG)?
Yes that report that was under different rules. The Star team was required to submit their report to congress. That changed because they felt like embarrassing material could be used to impugn your political opponents. Now they want to buck the rules they set up for this. Had you actually read the post that you mostly clipped away it explained that as well.
 

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The Starr report was actually written within the framework that it was for consumption by Congress and the public. At the time there were severe criticisms that it included embarrassing material used to make Clinton and others in the report look worse. In 1999 the rules that govern special counsels expired and they were replaced by the current rules. The Mueller report was written under the framework that the AG would get the report and then submit a redacted version to Congress. It was not written for public consumption. These are the rules Congress set up. Now they don't want to follow them.

I have always been in the camp that Congress should subpoena any additional information necessary rather than embarrassing its citizens with a full release. They don't even know what is not included yet so this is all political theater.
 
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Could they not see the long term damage a collusion hoax would cause? Were they really that blinded by short term gains?
 

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For those who wish to review the content of AG Barr going in from of Congress:

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/barr-congress-04-09-2019/index.html

Seems like Barr stands by his summary. The full report will be out "within a week". There is still no further evidence that the Barr summary somehow misrepresented the conclusions of Mueller's report. Dozens of people are already involved and have come to the same conclusions.
 

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