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Multiple Historians dispute NYT's 1619 Project, already in some schools. “They’re not only ahistorical, they’re actually anti-historical."

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The “1619 Project” is made up of multiple stories and poems about racism and slavery. It suggests America’s “true founding” was when the first slaves arrived in 1619 and “aims to reframe the country’s history.” Written by journalists and opinion writers, the project has already received criticism from many conservatives.
Historian and Brown University professor Gordon Wood called the project “wrong in so many ways” in an interview with World Socialist Web Site (WSWS) published Thursday.
The “1619 Project” has already been implemented into some public schools around the country, like Chicago, and has lesson plans available for schools to begin teaching its student this reframed history
Wood said no one approached him about the project and that “none of the leading scholars of the whole period from the Revolution to the Civil War” appeared to have been consulted either. Wood continued on to provide evidence that he said negates multiple points made in The NYT’s project.
American Civil War historian and Pulitzer Prize winner James M. McPherson was also interviewed by WSWS on Nov. 14, and he called the project lacking in “context and perspective.” Like Wood, McPherson was never made aware of the project until it came out.
McPherson also countered some of The NYT’s points throughout the project. He, like Wood, said the outlet never approached him. He added that lead writer of the “1619 Project” Nikole Hannah-Jones’s claim that “anti-black racism runs in the very DNA of this country” did not “make much sense” to him.
Historian James Oakes was also interviewed by WSWS on Nov. 18. He said that “their work has prompted some very strong criticism from scholars in the field.” “These are really dangerous tropes,” Oakes said about some of the claims the project makes. “They’re not only ahistorical, they’re actually anti-historical. The function of those tropes is to deny change over time. It goes back to those analogies.”
Oakes added that some of the project’s assertions are just “ridiculous” and he, too, provides contextual evidence to disprove some of The NYT’s “reframing.”
NYT reporter Ida Bae Wells, who is working on the project, dismissed the historian’s viewpoints of the “1619 Project.” ... “What they are actually doing, without knowing, is demonstrating why this project must exist.”
 

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In the interview James A. Lindsay and Peter Boghossian do with a church leader regarding intersectionalism invading the church, one of the advanced tactics Lindsay discusses is that if intersectionalism is presented with a hard nut to crack, it will instead simply build an alternate version to the side.

For example, if it can't get into the Economic school at a university, they might launch an alternative 'School of Economics and Justice". Over time, they then present it as a choice between this new, better, modern alternative vs. the embedded, 'racist' school, and effectively try to edge it out over time. Lindsay gives more detail and better examples than my madeuponthespot one.

Anyway... tell me this isn't exactly that. Build an alternative 'history' curriculum, written by activist journalists with no input from historians. Present it to schools as an alternative to the old, stodgy, racist historians. Woke districts with woke principals adopt, giving it false legitimacy as a valid curiculum. Start attacking schools that don't adopt it as 'racist'. Woke activist reeee, normal people scared to speak, or simply ignorant to history, stay silent. Dominant and replace.

I'm amazed the far left can't see their own cultish behavior.
 
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Of course they didn't consult many historians. Typically good historians left or right tries to avoid soapboxing and sweeping narratives as they are almost always oversimplications and at worst outright deceptive.

As a bit of an Early Americanist myself I was initially optisimic with the endeavour till I read their articles and was shocked at really how shallow they went explaining the development of slavery in the colonies . I was hoping it was going to bring about more discussion of early American history but nope they was like 1619 "Time skip" 1776 "time skip "Civil War" time skip "Segregation and Jim crow" . Most of all of policies which tighted the grip of slavery within each individual colony were ignored except for brief mention of marriage laws in Virginia .

I half believe this entire thing was created while someone at NYT was watching the drama/oddlyComedy that is the recent Jamestown series got to the part with the slaves being brought in thought they discovered something earth shattering and decided to go on from there.
 

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In Ida Bae Wells’ twitter bio: “the Beyoncé of journalism,” “smart and thuggish,” the idiocracy is real these are our professionals at the NYT.
Thuggish is not a positive. That’s like someone using a derogatory term about yourself in everyday language. Oh. Never mind
 
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Of course they didn't consult many historians. Typically good historians left or right tries to avoid soapboxing and sweeping narratives as they are almost always oversimplications and at worst outright deceptive.

As a bit of an Early Americanist myself I was initially optisimic with the endeavour till I read their articles and was shocked at really how shallow they went explaining the development of slavery in the colonies . I was hoping it was going to bring about more discussion of early American history but nope they was like 1619 "Time skip" 1776 "time skip "Civil War" time skip "Segregation and Jim crow" . Most of all of policies which tighted the grip of slavery within each individual colony were ignored except for brief mention of marriage laws in Virginia .

I half believe this entire thing was created while someone at NYT was watching the drama/oddlyComedy that is the recent Jamestown series got to the part with the slaves being brought in thought they discovered something earth shattering and decided to go on from there.
It wasn't even attempting to be history though, it was an ideologically driven attempt to tie American capitalism to slavery. Which is ironic because it is American capitalism that ended slavery. There is a reason the slave states were so backwards compared to the free states, and it's not because all the profits from slavery got funneled up north, it's because slavery is a fundamentally weak economic system. Self interest is a way more powerful motivating force than the whip.

The whole 'New History of Capitalism' is ideological bullshit from the far left, and they can't peddle it honestly because it's so obviously not true. The confederacy and pro slavery theorists were radically anti-capitalist, not that proponents of this bullshit are averse to just making up their own history:


A pair of quotes come from the notorious pro-slavery theorist George Fitzhugh in which he ascribes socialist or communist monikers to his adversaries, albeit with very little context. This is done for a reason, as Fitzhugh himself is a poor witness to bring to Jacobin’s cause. They do so through selective editing, but only to omit the fact that Fitzhugh professed a radical anti-capitalist vision that trended strongly toward the philosophical tendencies of the reactionary socialist Thomas Carlyle. It was Fitzhugh who urged slave-owning southerners to “throw Adam Smith, Say, Ricardo & Co., in the fire” and who declared the theory of laissez-faire to be “at war with all kinds of slavery, for they in fact assert that individuals and peoples prosper most when governed least.”

Although now deprived of Fitzhugh, Jacobin has a few more testimonials for its case. The most prominent remaining example by far is future Confederate president Jefferson Davis himself, or so it would seem. Jacobin’s author accordingly quotes Davis asserting that “the European Socialists, who, in wild radicalism, . . . are the correspondents of the American abolitionists” and proceeding to place them in league with the French socialist-anarchist theorist Pierre-Joseph Proudhon. The crusade against slavery, he continues, would “superinduce attacks on all property, North and South” and, presumably, lead to an ascendance of socialism in America.

If no less than the president of the Confederacy declared that the abolitionists were in league with the socialists, then surely it’s a powerful case for not only the NHC genre but Jacobin’s own even more extreme spin in which the forces who stood against slavery also stood for socialist upheaval.

But there’s a problem. The unsourced Jefferson Davis quote is not a Jefferson Davis quote at all. It’s actually a misattributed passage by Caleb Cushing, a Massachusetts politician and diplomat who sided with the Union during the Civil War. Cushing’s address was delivered at a meeting in Bangor, Maine on January 6, 1860 and reprinted shortly thereafter in the newspaper excerpt below:
 
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Nobody ever went broke selling guilt to liberal whites.


Granted, 2.5 million is not crazy money but hey for Yet Another Book about Racism and a few articles in the Atlantic that's pretty damn good.

You could write countless woke articles for Kotaku and never get even close to this amount.
 
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“anti-black racism runs in the very DNA of this country.” Damn, biased much? They add pumpkin spice to their ink too? History doesn’t need to be embellished or tampered with, it just has to be presented with as much accuracy as possible. If it doesn’t feel like Ben Stein wrote it, throw that book in the trash.
 

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“anti-black racism runs in the very DNA of this country.” Damn, biased much?
Well duh, what do you think DNA stands for?

Die Negro Annihilate.

At least that's what it means according to by text book at my Gender studies class, I'm getting a degree in Sanctuary City acceptance and sweater knitting. ;)