Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Eh, I didn't think just reacting to bullets was that difficult in Original. A decent amount of shmup prowess should see you through... well, aside from Stage 4, which is pretty gnarly at times.
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Mushihimesama (Steam) |OT| More "bugs" than Batman!
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Eh, I didn't think just reacting to bullets was that difficult in Original. A decent amount of shmup prowess should see you through... well, aside from Stage 4, which is pretty gnarly at times.
keep the thread subbed tho!I love shmups and was on the verge of buying this until I heard about the performance issues.
There are no performance issues as such. The game literally uses less than 5% of my CPU and GPU running at 60 FPS.
There are framepacing issues on some systems, which can currently be fixed using external tools and will hopefully be patched soon. (The more annoying issue are the sporadic startup crashes that some people, including me, experience)
The game is easily worth the effort of working around these things though IMHO.
It's not bad if your not sensitive to certain things. The game is still more than enjoyable and the troubles are fixed with a few steps.
Game is looking fine at that upres'd 1080 without the filter
SmiteOfHand
Member
^ painful!
Stage 1 and 2, no miss, no bomb, no problem. Keep falling apart in 3 and 4. Getting there.
Stage 1 and 2, no miss, no bomb, no problem. Keep falling apart in 3 and 4. Getting there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80YawYRcWPQ
Uploaded my (almost) Original 1cc from last night. Didn't get the bomb out fast enough!
Uploaded my (almost) Original 1cc from last night. Didn't get the bomb out fast enough!
Stage 4 feels like a comfy walk in the park(uh, forest?) after stage 3, which is just pure hell all the way through. Then stage 5 kicks it back into high gear and never lets off the pedal.
What a nightmare, I just can't get this game to go past the press start screen at all. I have tried every single thing I can possibly think of.
- Tried appearing offline.
- Appearing offline + no steam overlay
- Appearing offline + no steam overlay + no cloud saves.
- Offline mode
- Offline mode + no cloud saves
- Relaunching the game as fast as possible after it crashes.
- Offline mode + relaunching the game as fast as possible after it crashes.
- All of the above while setting the game to fullscreen.
- All of the above while attempting to use a controller / enter key / Z key.
- Alt-tabbing in-and-out
- Leaving it at the screen for 5 minutes.
I want to cry.
- Tried appearing offline.
- Appearing offline + no steam overlay
- Appearing offline + no steam overlay + no cloud saves.
- Offline mode
- Offline mode + no cloud saves
- Relaunching the game as fast as possible after it crashes.
- Offline mode + relaunching the game as fast as possible after it crashes.
- All of the above while setting the game to fullscreen.
- All of the above while attempting to use a controller / enter key / Z key.
- Alt-tabbing in-and-out
- Leaving it at the screen for 5 minutes.
I want to cry.
Geraldo_Ray
Member
Got through Normal and Maniac difficulty in Novice mode without too much trouble, so that just leaves Ultra mode left. I managed to get to the halfway point of stage 4 in Arranged mode, but after that I'm clueless and start freaking out.
So far stage 3 is my favorite level of the game.
So far stage 3 is my favorite level of the game.
Well if you want authenticity you gotta remember to downscale the game to 240x320 before scaling that back up to your screen, and scale and rotate the filter accordingly (90° counterclockwise).
Meh, they chickened out by not including an achievement for Ultra 1CC. Seriously, Cave?
edit: wait, there's an "Ultra Mania" achievement with no explanation... maybe it's the 1CC.
TyrantGuardian
Member
Actually the filter would stay aligned when you put the game into TATE-mode since as far as everything on your PC is concerned the game is still in landscape orientation.
I am in love with Mushi all over again. Had some great runs this morning, cleared Normal Original 3 times.
1st - stupid deaths on stage 2, but no missed last boss. 19m points, 16th on leaderboards.
2nd - average run, ended up with 20m.
3rd - no death run until stage 4 then lost the plot. Finished with no lives and no bombs in stock. :/
If id put the first run and third run together....sigh
Best tip for newbies I think is tht when you get to stage 3 onwards, realise that half the purple shit on the screen is designed to go around you. Once that clicks it gets a lot easier.
1st - stupid deaths on stage 2, but no missed last boss. 19m points, 16th on leaderboards.
2nd - average run, ended up with 20m.
3rd - no death run until stage 4 then lost the plot. Finished with no lives and no bombs in stock. :/
If id put the first run and third run together....sigh
Best tip for newbies I think is tht when you get to stage 3 onwards, realise that half the purple shit on the screen is designed to go around you. Once that clicks it gets a lot easier.
There is already a CRT filter in GeDoSaTo actually, a port of Timothy Lotte's great CRT shader. I haven't tried making it work for Mushihimesama yet.
That's too bad, it never crashed for me after getting over the start screen :/
Same for me. I feel you brother. I got past the start screen TWO TIMES out of +100.
Btw, some dude in the Steam discussion forums claims it has to do with having too many steam friends. Can't test it myself because I'm not deleting ~200 steam friends just for a shmup, even if it's mushihimesama.
Here's the thread: http://steamcommunity.com/app/377860/discussions/0/496880503067369010/
Here's the relevant parts by this guy called re:Curse:
Not tried disabling the overlay. Will give that a shot
Really happy to see this game being so popular. It would have been such a shame to have Cave games rot away in obscurity as region locked ports, PCBs or ROMs.
While I'm certain that, say, Deathsmiles, Ketsui or Espgaluda will be next, I'm really looking forward to getting Muchi Muchi Pork and Ibara eventually. Those have terrific bosses and I love the Raizing - style mechanics.
While pinball has somewhat replaced shumps as my favorite go-to arcade style, it's warming my heart to see the genre get yet another lease on life.
And while I know many people hate mainstream YouTubers, I can't help but wonder what would happen if a Pewdiepie-style channel starts streaming INSANELY BRUTAL JAPANESE GAME!!!
While I'm certain that, say, Deathsmiles, Ketsui or Espgaluda will be next, I'm really looking forward to getting Muchi Muchi Pork and Ibara eventually. Those have terrific bosses and I love the Raizing - style mechanics.
While pinball has somewhat replaced shumps as my favorite go-to arcade style, it's warming my heart to see the genre get yet another lease on life.
And while I know many people hate mainstream YouTubers, I can't help but wonder what would happen if a Pewdiepie-style channel starts streaming INSANELY BRUTAL JAPANESE GAME!!!
mdsfx
Member
F*CK those snakes. I don't know how people get through that on Normal or harder. If you are unable to destroy one you get some nasty horizontal bullets coming your way.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Always keep a tail alive so you can blow it up and clear the air when things get hot.
Better yet. Play stage 4 on 1.5 MAX. Every time you blow up a section, a nice string of revenge bullets is directed at you. You'll get comfortable with how Original handles things real quick.
EDIT: I've crashed into the wings a few times, which is just embarrassing.
I got that one on Ultra Novice, it's playing through stage 3 with no continues.
MAN, GeDoSaTo really cleaned this game up. Running at native 1440p + 60 FPS is lovely. I hope the developer can build arbitrary resolution support directly into the game but at least we have the option now.
I'm also interested in those more advanced scaling settings but I'll worry about that later.
edit: And now the game crashes as soon as I try to go beyond the title screen. Sigh.
edit edit: And now it doesn't. This game isn't very stable, is it.
I'm also interested in those more advanced scaling settings but I'll worry about that later.
edit: And now the game crashes as soon as I try to go beyond the title screen. Sigh.
edit edit: And now it doesn't. This game isn't very stable, is it.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Oh boy, this made me laugh.
SmiteOfHand
Member
Intercepting the Steam friends API and pretending you have 0 friends completely fixes the starting crash.
New GeDoSaTo version with foreverAlone option shortly.
The hero... Again!
I ended up calling it "steamFriendsLimit" which is pretty boring, but on the other hand I'll still remember what it does a year from now
It's online now!
Man, I guess I'm one of the very few that has little to no issues in terms of stability and performance with the game. No crashes, no hangs, and no display issues as well. I'm just using a decent laptop and its running great on me. If anything, my only issue with the game so far is the shit configuration on xinput devices. Start is fucking mapped to R2/RT and all other configurations are messed up wtf! I ended up ditching my DS4 and went back to DS3 using BetterDS3 to emulate a 360 controller. I really prefer the DS4 but the DS3 isn't that bad anyway.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Intercepting the Steam friends API and pretending you have 0 friends completely fixes the starting crash.
New GeDoSaTo version with foreverAlone option shortly.
"pretending", sure.
JoeyJungle
Banned
Intercepting the Steam friends API and pretending you have 0 friends completely fixes the starting crash.
New GeDoSaTo version with foreverAlone option shortly.
<3 Durante does it again!
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Durante does what Devs don't
I ended up calling it "steamFriendsLimit" which is pretty boring, but on the other hand I'll still remember what it does a year from now
It's online now!
You god damn fucking hero.
Well it's a great temp fix till the devs do something. I don't think I've seen anything like this before, so I wonder what the usefulness of such a workaround could be in future.
Works perfectly. Durante saving the day again.
I've heard that the Resident Evil remake still has a bug when friends lists get too large. I never ran into it. Forever alone.
But yeah, I hope that the devs see that high resolution upscaling works with this game and they start including it in their future ports.
I've heard that the Resident Evil remake still has a bug when friends lists get too large. I never ran into it. Forever alone.
But yeah, I hope that the devs see that high resolution upscaling works with this game and they start including it in their future ports.
AlphaProspector
Member
Durante the man!
So that user title is getting bigger and bigger, haha. Somewhere in there a "bug" comment will show up.
Got the game on release and been enjoying it so far but I also suffered the start screen crash. It seems that the ALT+Enter to go full screen when CAVE logo appears fixed it every time.
So that user title is getting bigger and bigger, haha. Somewhere in there a "bug" comment will show up.
Got the game on release and been enjoying it so far but I also suffered the start screen crash. It seems that the ALT+Enter to go full screen when CAVE logo appears fixed it every time.
So, yeah ... GeDoSaTo single-handedly saved Mushihimesama for me
This wasn't doing it for me, my display is 16:10 (1920x1200@60Hz), forcePresentRes stretched the internal 16:9 to 16:10 fullscreen and messed up the aspect ratio, fraps reported 59 and I definitely noticed the missing frame. After some trial and error I ended up with this:
Buttery smooth 60fps, correct aspect ratio in 1200p fullscreen with black bars and face-stabbing sharp sprites.
EDIT: better configs down-thread
Code:
forcePresentRes true
fpsLimit 60This wasn't doing it for me, my display is 16:10 (1920x1200@60Hz), forcePresentRes stretched the internal 16:9 to 16:10 fullscreen and messed up the aspect ratio, fraps reported 59 and I definitely noticed the missing frame. After some trial and error I ended up with this:
Code:
config\default\GeDoSaTo.ini
clearRenderResolutions
renderResolution 2560x1920@60
presentWidth 1920
presentHeight 1080
presentHz 60
presentInterval 1
scalingType lanczos
maintainAspectRatio true
forcePresentRes true
forceAlwaysDownsamplingRes trueEDIT: better configs down-thread
I ended up calling it "steamFriendsLimit" which is pretty boring, but on the other hand I'll still remember what it does a year from now
It's online now!
Not sure if you know about this, but if you click cancel when deciding on the path for GeDeSaTo, the installer crashes. Not that that is an important thing. The only reason I hit cancel was to work out why Gedesato updater said it looked like I was making a new install, despite a version already being there
I made a post about this stuff on my blog, with a bit more detail.
Never heard about this, I'll look at it when I have time.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Is 1985 the mushi fix? It keeps trying to update to that build but ends up with 1983 release once it's done.
83 was fine, but I had a version mismatch between the binary I pushed and the source, so the tool thought it should update when there was nothing to update. It should be fixed now.