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From now on, I'm posting ASAP in any Scoularis thread. I'll be internet famous in no time!
ScOULaris said:I can't speak for all of Europe, but have you been to Italy? I'm not lying or exaggerating when I say that most people look thin and healthy. Not malnourished or scrawny, although of course everyone's definition of "too thin" is different as it is with "too fat."
Kenak said:Eh, I don't have any issues what-so-ever with overweight people. The only issues I have are when people claim to diet and exercise, but really they cheat on the diet all the time and working out equates to getting sweaty and out of breath. Or the infamous walking on the treadmill for 30 minutes.
JoshDigi said:I see this all the time at the gym. Fatties sitting on the exercise bike going 2 MPH all the while drinking a liter of gatorade. But hey, they went to they gym that day so its not their fault that they are fat!
I want to go up to them and say, "You will forever be fat if you keep this up. That gatorade is nothing but sugar. It won't make you an athlete just because the commericals said it would. You are ingesting more calories while at the gym then you are burning off. Drop the gatorade and actually put some work into your work out."
Yeah! Personally, I make sure to throw in one more sentence just to explicitly drive my point home: "I consider you inferior to me you fat sack of excrement!"JoshDigi said:I see this all the time at the gym. Fatties sitting on the exercise bike going 2 MPH all the while drinking a liter of gatorade. But hey, they went to they gym that day so its not their fault that they are fat!
I want to go up to them and say, "You will forever be fat if you keep this up. That gatorade is nothing but sugar. It won't make you an athlete just because the commericals said it would. You are ingesting more calories while at the gym then you are burning off. Drop the gatorade and actually put some work into your work out."
ScOULaris said:Just saw the bump and read the Cracked article.
The article is a joke and further proof that Internet writers just scour GAF all day for ideas.
The author compares obesity (a health-related, biological problem) to shortcomings that stem from numerous societal factors (having a hot girlfriend, making tons of money... etc.) Every human being on the planet (save for less than 1%) is capable of maintaining a healthy weight. Your weight/physique is one of the very few things that we have direct control over in our lives.
He also mentioned addictions. And while the comparisons aren't 100% comparable (i.e. literally everyone can lose weight but due to limited resources not everyone can become rich), I think they are apt on the whole. The point is that people can be selective in calling out bad behaviors that apply to them, but generally aren't as harsh in regards to their own shortcomings. I don't think he was advocating that obesity is perfectly okay.ScOULaris said:Just saw the bump and read the Cracked article.
The article is a joke and further proof that Internet writers just scour GAF all day for ideas.
The author compares obesity (a health-related, biological problem) to shortcomings that stem from numerous societal factors (having a hot girlfriend, making tons of money... etc.) Every human being on the planet (save for less than 1%) is capable of maintaining a healthy weight. Your weight/physique is one of the very few things that we have direct control over in our lives.
Steve Youngblood said:He also mentioned addictions. And while the comparisons aren't 100% comparable (i.e. literally everyone can lose weight but due to limited resources not everyone can become rich), I think they are apt on the whole. The point is that people can be selective in calling out bad behaviors that apply to them, but generally aren't as harsh in regards to their own shortcomings. I don't think he was advocating that obesity is perfectly okay.
But I think ultimately the point is that one can be encouraging of ideal behavior -- for instance advocating a better diet and exercise regiment -- without being judgmental or condescending towards the individuals who would be wise to listen to your wisdom.Zefah said:That's very assuming in a variety of ways.
It's assuming that most people are selective in calling out bad behaviors. It's also assuming that all shortcomings are more or less objectively equal.
I enjoyed the article, but that part kind of irked me.
ScOULaris said:Just saw the bump and read the Cracked article.
The article is a joke and further proof that Internet writers just scour GAF all day for ideas.
The author compares obesity (a health-related, biological problem) to shortcomings that stem from numerous societal factors (having a hot girlfriend, making tons of money... etc.) Every human being on the planet (save for less than 1%) is capable of maintaining a healthy weight. Your weight/physique is one of the very few things that we have direct control over in our lives.
Steve Youngblood said:But I think ultimately the point is that one can be encouraging of ideal behavior -- for instance advocating a better diet and exercise regiment -- without being judgmental or condescending towards the individuals who would be wise to listen to your wisdom.
There's a fine line that I think some people misunderstand. Encouraging a healthy lifestyle is wonderful. I agree that obesity is a problem, and that a desire for tolerance is a little counter-productive as obesity isn't just a problem for vain people ("ugh, I hate having to look at awful fatties") but is a legitimate health concern.
However, preaching that it's strictly a character flaw of the lazy and stupid does lend itself to the comparisons the author is making. Do you think that any of the posters in this thread who have crossed that fine line that separates prudent advice from mockery are themselves perfect? If not, then the author has a valid point. It doesn't matter that not all problems are created equal. The crux of the message stands.
While I think the article is stretching a bit in equivalency on this particular issue, especially since obesity is certainly becoming a huge (lulz) problem in this nation, I think fatness can certainly be tied to social/economic factors. We have made shitty food incredibly cheap and easy to get and this needs to be fixed. When we began to recognize the dangers of pervasive tobacco use, we placed barriers (location bans, rising prices, age restrictions etc) to its use and availability. I hope the same is done for our junk or poorly nutritive food.ScOULaris said:Just saw the bump and read the Cracked article.
The article is a joke and further proof that Internet writers just scour GAF all day for ideas.
The author compares obesity (a health-related, biological problem) to shortcomings that stem from numerous societal factors (having a hot girlfriend, making tons of money... etc.) Every human being on the planet (save for less than 1%) is capable of maintaining a healthy weight. Your weight/physique is one of the very few things that we have direct control over in our lives.
Steve Youngblood said:But I think ultimately the point is that one can be encouraging of ideal behavior -- for instance advocating a better diet and exercise regiment -- without being judgmental or condescending towards the individuals who would be wise to listen to your wisdom.
There's a fine line that I think some people misunderstand. Encouraging a healthy lifestyle is wonderful. I agree that obesity is a problem, and that a desire for tolerance is a little counter-productive as obesity isn't just a problem for vain people ("ugh, I hate having to look at awful fatties") but is a legitimate health concern.
However, preaching that it's strictly a character flaw of the lazy and stupid does lend itself to the comparisons the author is making. Do you think that any of the posters in this thread who have crossed that fine line that separates prudent advice from mockery are themselves perfect? If not, then the author has a valid point. It doesn't matter that not all problems are created equal. The crux of the message stands.
Here's a sampling from page 3:macuser1of5 said:I don't think the OP is really indicative of 'fatty hate'
Now, I don't think that undermines the premise entirely, but let's not pretend that this thread is an altruistic endeavor.ScOULaris said:Everyone knows why they are fat and what they can do about it. Many choose not to address it. We call those people "lazy fatasses." Glad you're proud to be a card-carrying member.
Steve Youngblood said:Here's a sampling from page 3:
Now, I don't think that undermines the premise entirely, but let's not pretend that this thread is an altruistic endeavor.
Power Glove said:From now on, I'm posting ASAP in any Scoularis thread. I'll be internet famous in no time!
DrPirate said:Italian-Canadian here.
I try to stuff my face with dual double big macs, two steaks every monday and wednesdays, pasta dishes tuesedays and thursdays, and 3 eggs with bread and such every morning with continuous snacking all day and I can't seem to break 180 pounds (I'm 6'2). I would like a more "meatier" frame, and I work out three times a week, but I can't seem to get the right size I want.
Genetics has ALOT to do with it. Everyone in my family is skinny, and we consume enough food to feed the average family for a week every day.
Write down your caloric intake and physical activity and post it. I'm interested.DrPirate said:Italian-Canadian here.
I try to stuff my face with dual double big macs, two steaks every monday and wednesdays, pasta dishes tuesedays and thursdays, and 3 eggs with bread and such every morning with continuous snacking all day and I can't seem to break 180 pounds (I'm 6'2). I would like a more "meatier" frame, and I work out three times a week, but I can't seem to get the right size I want.
Genetics has ALOT to do with it. Everyone in my family is skinny, and we consume enough food to feed the average family for a week every day.
Finaika said:First Kotaku, now this.
ScOULaris is getting famous on the internet.
Steve Youngblood said:But I think ultimately the point is that one can be encouraging of ideal behavior -- for instance advocating a better diet and exercise regiment -- without being judgmental or condescending towards the individuals who would be wise to listen to your wisdom.
There's a fine line that I think some people misunderstand. Encouraging a healthy lifestyle is wonderful. I agree that obesity is a problem, and that a desire for tolerance is a little counter-productive as obesity isn't just a problem for vain people ("ugh, I hate having to look at awful fatties") but is a legitimate health concern.
However, preaching that it's strictly a character flaw of the lazy and stupid does lend itself to the comparisons the author is making. Do you think that any of the posters in this thread who have crossed that fine line that separates prudent advice from mockery are themselves perfect? If not, then the author has a valid point. It doesn't matter that not all problems are created equal. The crux of the message stands.