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im still trying to figure out why

shit Zach Randolph would have been a better pick lol


edit: omg Zbo's numbered has already been future retired

I AM DYING!!!
It shouldn't be particularly surprising. It was a team, and a city for that matter, without any professional sports identity until Conley/Gasol/Zbo/Allen. Having jerseys hanging in the rafters matters to building a sense of history.
 
I don't get it why do it before he retires, he wasnt that great didnt lead them to a title.

I mean he's the kinda guy you prob retire jersey 5 years after they left the game if you just have to retire his jersey lol
Probably to please the fanbase. They just let Tony and ZBo walk while they are still paying Chandler Parsons almost 100 million which I would imagine isn't the most popular thing locally.
 
I don't get it why do it before he retires, he wasnt that great didnt lead them to a title.

I mean he's the kinda guy you prob retire jersey 5 years after they left the game if you just have to retire his jersey lol
It will sell tickets for one at least one night and give the fans something to be excited about.

It is kind of weird to me that any fan base would be excited or pay money to see that but I will have to assume that the guy is beloved over there.
 
Retiring Tony Allen's number is a desperate ass move. Way to embrace being a C tier franchise.
Except the two most successful franchises in the history of American sports are also the two most liberal when it comes to retiring numbers. I mean, Jorge Posada and Satch Sanders are not exactly HOF types. Sanders' career actually maps fairly closely onto Allen's in a lot of ways except for ringz.
 
Except the two most successful franchises in the history of American sports are also the two most liberal when it comes to retiring numbers. I mean, Jorge Posada and Satch Sanders are not exactly HOF types. Sanders' career actually maps fairly closely onto Allen's in a lot of ways except for ringz.
It would be like the Lakers retiring Derek Fisher or Rick Fox. I don't know, but I like reserving that honor for HoF type players. It cheapens it otherwise.
 
It would be like the Lakers retiring Derek Fisher or Rick Fox. I don't know, but I like reserving that honor for HoF type players. It cheapens it otherwise.
The Memphis Grizzlies have no history, I’m fine with them giving one of the most important players from their best years so far a lot of recognition. For almost every other team I’d disagree with the decision.
 
It would be like the Lakers retiring Derek Fisher or Rick Fox. I don't know, but I like reserving that honor for HoF type players. It cheapens it otherwise.
Lakers are pretty exclusive with that stuff. It's just different philosophies, but I don't think it's a mark of shame for Memphis or anything. It's not like retiring Shareef Abdur-Rahim's number because he put up 20 ppg a couple times on some shitty teams.
 
It would be like the Lakers retiring Derek Fisher or Rick Fox. I don't know, but I like reserving that honor for HoF type players. It cheapens it otherwise.
Hey man... i loved Derrick Fisher as a kid. I would use him in NBA Live over Kobe. Starters who aren't HoF types who have been significant over a long period of time deserve some recognition.
 
Except the two most successful franchises in the history of American sports are also the two most liberal when it comes to retiring numbers. I mean, Jorge Posada and Satch Sanders are not exactly HOF types. Sanders' career actually maps fairly closely onto Allen's in a lot of ways except for ringz.
Sanders is in the HoF though.
 
Hey man... i loved Derrick Fisher as a kid. I would use him in NBA Live over Kobe. Starters who aren't HoF types who have been significant over a long period of time deserve some recognition.
Fish was awesome during that 15-1 run in the playoffs. After that he was kind of a horrible defender and streaky shooter who was kind of a drag on the team. If he is not making those 3s he was kind of useless.

Any quick PG (starting with Parker) would cook the shit out of him. Somehow the refs let him thug Tony up back when you could intimidate him.
 
Some teams actually recognize hard work and dedication?...like any regular job would. Why is that desperate? Not everyone has to do things like the lakers
nearly every NBA player works hard. Outside of a few outliers, you don't make the NBA unless you do. That's not an uncommon trait. You might as well applaud him for his "grit" and "heart" next.
 
i wonder if he goes 1st, should be an interesting college season for freshman.
I would take someone that have proved to be be an excellent player in Euroleague since he was 17 (and the second best player in the Eurobaket gold team) over any kid that just played in highschool and college (unless he is a LeBron type of talent of course)
 
Fish was awesome during that 15-1 run in the playoffs. After that he was kind of a horrible defender and streaky shooter who was kind of a drag on the team. If he is not making those 3s he was kind of useless.

Any quick PG (starting with Parker) would cook the shit out of him. Somehow the refs let him thug Tony up back when you could intimidate him.
For sure. I'm just saying that some players have sentimental value that goes beyond a HoF skillset for specific teams fans.

Obviously if you are the Lakers you probably have to stick to HoF players so that you don't run out of numbers. However for most other teams having that player who was one of the teams faces for a decade or so is important.
 
Probably should have waited a few years but I see nothing wrong with Memphis retiring Tony Allen's jersey.

He was a vital player and locker room presence that helped turn a team that had never won a playoff series into a perennial second-third round contender, in a brutal conference, and helped instill a strong culture. Also made 3 defensive second teams and 3 defensive first teams while playing for the Grizz. I've seen people with worse resumes get their jerseys retired. He and Zbo are probably the two most admired players in team history by fans.

Though it does feel... Premature.
 
Grit and heart are stupid and cannot be measured.

Grind is just code for dirty mofo who gets rebounds.

Those guys are priceless on any team and never get any recognition. No one wants to get the rebounds or do the dirty work, but those guys are extremely important on every team.
Why bang down low when you can just sit pretty on the three point line and pop treys.

I blame Antoine Walker....