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NeoGAF Ban Review/Justice Project (Off-Topic Edition)

MiyazakiHatesKojima

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I don't know how I feel about that. I agree he's made some terrible posts, but changing the ban while he was already banned, feels a bit (Duration Pending) to me.

Of course, there could be some shit that went on that I'm unaware of through email or discord or something, but just changing it with no context doesn't feel right to me.
From what I know and seen/read, this was not a spontaneous change of ban status. A lot of people including myself brought evidence to prove that Enygger has legitimate racist views on certain races. A good move by the mod team to change it to a perm.
 
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You heard it here first, folks. Greek = Nazi?

So he was a proponent of Nationalized Socialism? That's a bit different than plain old racism. Or does he have posts admitting to being a member of a Fascist party?
Shouldn't you be back on ResetEra crying about how evil we are here on GAF?

Also suggesting being Greek indicates he is a nazi just shows how fucking stupid your argument is.
I didn't suggest that greeks are nazis so stop twisting my words. I am greek and for a fact know Golden Dawn are a literal fascist party.






There is no debate to be had about this.

Enygger_Tzu sourced facts about greek riots straight from their website, which is equivalent to linking the daily stormer, defended their actions, denied their crimes (they have murdered people including immigrants) and legitimized their stance as a political party. Every post of his comes straight out of the golden dawn playbook.

All that just adds to the pile of his racist / xenophobic / antisemitic posts, which roughly is the same stance golden dawn takes.
 
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ArchaeEnkidu

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I didn't suggest that greeks are nazis so stop twisting my words. I am greek and for a fact know Golden Dawn are a literal fascist party.






There is no debate to be had about this.

Enygger_Tzu sourced facts about greek riots straight from their website, which is equivalently to linking the daily stormer, defended their actions, denied their crimes (they have murdered people including immigrants) and legitimized their stance as a political party. Every post of his comes straight out of the golden dawn playbook.

All that just adds to the pile of his racist / xenophobic / antisemitic posts, which roughly is exactly the stand golden dawn takes.
You specifically emphasized that he was Greek as a reason that he is a nazi, not just that he supported a fascist faction within the greek government. Ironic given how you openly support a fascist website.
 
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You specifically emphasized that he was Greek as a reason that he is a nazi, not just that he supported a fascist faction within the greek government. Ironic given how you openly support a fascist website.
No. I said he was greek *and* a supporter of Golden Dawn. Since many might be unaware of who they are, it makes sense to list their (and his) ethnicity. Supporters of golden dawn are more or less greek, and they are more or less self-admitted fascists. I don't know what you are confused about.
 

ArchaeEnkidu

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No. I said he was greek *and* a supporter of Golden Dawn. Since many might be unaware of who they are, it makes sense to list their (and his) ethnicity. Supporters of golden dawn are more or less greek, and they are more or less self-admitted fascists. I don't know what you are confused about.
It would have been more than sufficient to simply say that they were a supporter of Golden Dawn, but you emphasized that he was greek as a reason as well. You need to learn to word your claims better.

Also are you not going to respond to the fact that you are against fascists, but support fascists? Think that little hypocrisy is important to point out.
 

Ornlu

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It would have been more than sufficient to simply say that they were a supporter of Golden Dawn, but you emphasized that he was greek as a reason as well. You need to learn to word your claims better.

Also are you not going to respond to the fact that you are against fascists, but support fascists? Think that little hypocrisy is important to point out.
What fascists does the poster supposedly support? I'm unfamiliar.
 
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It would have been more than sufficient to simply say that they were a supporter of Golden Dawn, but you emphasized that he was greek as a reason as well. You need to learn to word your claims better.

Also are you not going to respond to the fact that you are against fascists, but support fascists? Think that little hypocrisy is important to point out.
I'm fairly certain that my point got across from the original post, but whatever if people seriously think I claimed all greeks are somehow nazis I can edit that part out.

I also don't support fascists of any kind so maybe stop throwing huge allegations around, unless you want to fall into the same pitfall you accuse resetera of, aka "everyone I don't like is a fascist". I've already said I don't care much about resetera, I post on many forums and have no allegiance to any one of them cause forum wars are dumb. I call bullshit when I see it. I don't see how resetera are even comparable to Golden Dawn here, call me when they start espousing white supremacist theories and murdering people on the streets.
 

ArchaeEnkidu

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What fascists does the poster supposedly support? I'm unfamiliar.
They support ResetEra, a community comprised of racists and ANTIFA members (who are literal fascists in sheep's clothing).

I'm fairly certain that my point got across from the original post, but whatever if people seriously think I claimed all greeks are somehow nazis I can edit that part out.

I also don't support fascists of any kind so maybe stop throwing huge allegations around, unless you want to fall into the same pitfall you accuse resetera of, aka "everyone I don't like is a fascist". I've already said I don't care much about resetera, I post on many forums and have no allegiance to any one of them cause forum wars are dumb. I call bullshit when I see it. I don't see how resetera are even comparable to Golden Dawn here, call me when they start espousing white supremacist theories and murdering people on the streets.
Almost every time you return to GAF, it is nothing but whining about GAF, the moderation, and its community. Yet, you openly support ResetEra who, as stated previously and can be seen by numerous posts on Twitter, Reddit, Kiwifarms (as much as I detest them), and even here on GAF, openly supports racism and ANTIFA - a group of known fascists (ironic, given their name). A group that has continuously argued for violence to those who are white, republican/conservative, and doxxed numerous people in an effort to ruin their lives. A group that pushed a young black man to suicide.

The fact that you try to claim "But Golden Dawn has killed *more!*" only shows how weak your argument is. Two things can be right at the same time. Golden Dawn is a bunch of repugnant folk, but so is ResetEra. Your hypocrisy is clear as day.
 
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They support ResetEra, a community comprised of racists and ANTIFA members (who are literal fascists in sheep's clothing).



Almost every time you return to GAF, it is nothing but whining about GAF, the moderation, and its community. Yet, you openly support ResetEra who, as stated previously and can be seen by numerous posts on Twitter, Reddit, Kiwifarms (as much as I detest them), and even here on GAF, openly supports racism and ANTIFA - a group of known fascists (ironic, given their name). A group that has continuously argued for violence to those who are white, republican/conservative, and doxxed numerous people in an effort to ruin their lives. A group that pushed a young black man to suicide.

The fact that you try to claim "But Golden Dawn has killed *more!*" only shows how weak your argument is. Two things can be right at the same time. Golden Dawn is a bunch of repugnant folk, but so is ResetEra. Your hypocrisy is clear as day.
This is getting tiring, we've already had this discussion. If I whine about a nazi posting on gaf that's because I take actual issue with it, you don't get to police my tone and the things I talk about here or anywhere. Posting in a forum doesn't make you automatically endorse all their viewpoints, perhaps because a forum is not a monolith but a hub of tiny communities you selectively participate in. If you take issue with resetera (and all those accusations you just threw at them), take it to the respective topic. There is no "argument" to be had here - you came in to a discussion about someone supporting a real nazi party with "but you post in this place I just claimed is fascist! That's hypocritical!" as if it's relevant or morally equivalent. I don't see you up in a fuss about the actual fascist ideologies passed down by golden dawn and spread by Enygger_Tzu in a series of posts, which is what the topic is currently about. That's as far as I am derailing the thread for you.
 

ArchaeEnkidu

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This is getting tiring, we've already had this discussion. If I whine about a nazi posting on gaf that's because I take actual issue with it, you don't get to police my tone and the things I talk about here or anywhere. Posting in a forum doesn't make you automatically endorse all their viewpoints, perhaps because a forum is not a monolith but a hub of tiny communities you selectively participate in. If you take issue with resetera (and all those accusations you just threw at them), take it to the respective topic. There is no "argument" to be had here - you came in to a discussion about someone supporting a real nazi party with "but you post in this place I just claimed is fascist! That's hypocritical!" as if it's relevant or morally equivalent. I don't see you up in a fuss about the actual fascist ideologies passed down by golden dawn and spread by Enygger_Tzu in a series of posts, which is what the topic is currently about. That's as far as I am derailing the thread for you.
I am not policing you. I am just pointing out how you are a one note hypocrite.
 

matt404au

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@themagicalkitsune I think the point is that your words ring hollow because we only ever see you every few months when there's some kind of social issue to lecture us on. You're an active Resetera member and don't participate on GAF outside of your infrequent lecturing. I actually agree with you on the Golden Dawn stuff, but I don't see you as a member of the community so I don't give much weight to your opinions.
 
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ArchaeEnkidu

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@themagicalkitsune I think the point is that your words ring hollow because we only ever see you every few months when there's some kind of social issue to lecture us on. You're an active Resetera member and don't participate on GAF outside of your infrequent lecturing. I actually agree with you on the Golden Dawn stuff, but I don't see you as a member of the community so I don't give much weight to your opinions.
Pretty much what I wanted to say, but in a nicer fashion.
 

Ol'Scratch

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Hey, put those titties back to where they belong!

Do you want to have your Avi snatched away like that last time?
Harken thee and listen! You may not know this but my side job and indeed my (former I suppose) secret identity is indeed Tuxedo Hax the protector of fine anime bosoms everywhere and I can not have you besmirching such a fine pair!
 
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The Pleasure

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For my first wish, Evillore, can we have all smash defenders have the tag "needs a shower" ? I'm not the only one asking for this. I speak for the masses who cry out for showers. I am the deodorant in the store. I am the hand towel that is overrun with dew. I am the soap and the water. I am the voice that cries out for cleanliness. I am the Homieverse. I am the Bruh and the the Scro. My name is Pleasure and I come with you from the millions and millions of humanity, please call out the Smashers.
 
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Whataburger

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For my first wish, Evillore, can we have all smash defenders have the tag "needs a shower" ? I'm not the only one asking for this. I speak for the masses who cry out for showers. I am the deodorant in the store. I am the hand towel that is overrun with dew. I am the soap and the water. I am the voice that cries out for cleanliness. I am the Homieverse. I am the Bruh and the the Scro. My name is Pleasure and I come with you from the millions and millions of humanity, please call out the Smashers.
Where did the melee players touch you?
 

EviLore

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Any reason for deletion instead of ban?
He's been riding my ass, and seeing how much he can get away with, without any real participation on the boards. Deleting his account isn't much different than a permaban, but it's to send a message. I'd like to be able to engage in some silly banter with my community without cunts from REEEEE jumping down my throat.
 

EightBitNate

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He's been riding my ass, and seeing how much he can get away with, without any real participation on the boards. Deleting his account isn't much different than a permaban, but it's to send a message. I'd like to be able to engage in some silly banter with my community without cunts from REEEEE jumping down my throat.
Transhuman annihilated
 
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Dr.Guru of Peru

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Can the mod who banned me from posting in the 007/Bond thread PM me?

I actually don’t know what got me banned and the message was vague.
 
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Kagey K

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Damn, i was a bit shook when I saw @brap on the ban list 👀

I hope these two weeks for him will be restful for him, at the very least. That thread is a landmine and very contentious. Still love you, Brap!
Oof I never clicked on that thread until you pointed out the ban and went to see what him and 17 seconds took the hit for.

I’m pretty sure that’s the last time I’ll visit it too. Seems pretty rough in there.