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Neowin: Xbox One lacks proper storage management; Microsoft says it is 'automatic'
- Thread starter MCD
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I'm glad I'm not the only one confused by this. I spent a good 15 minutes looking for system storage info and found none. I also can't figure out how to view my recent players list, or leave a party. I couldn't join a KI ranked match yesterday because I was still in a party... yet there didn't seem to be any way to leave the part aside from signing out of my profile, then back in.
If your console is offline, your saves can't be uploaded and will stay on your console.
Doesn't the 360 do this now? Mirror your saves to the cloud?
SEGAvangelist
Gold Member
This actually sounds good for casual users. This is terrible for us. Option MS... OPTIONS.
silver.tongue
Member
Why!?!?!??!?!?!!
That was one of the coolest features of the 360! I loved that I could go into each game folder and see Patches, Game & Saves individually. This was way better then PS3!
DAMN IT ALL TO HELL!
That was one of the coolest features of the 360! I loved that I could go into each game folder and see Patches, Game & Saves individually. This was way better then PS3!
DAMN IT ALL TO HELL!
Automatically deleting a 30+ gig game, and forcing redownload from cloud does not seem like a good idea. Part of a deal with cable companies as they institute bandwidth caps?
Surely saves will not just be on the cloud. If so, then part of the always online bullshit was never removed. If I can't access my saves when my internet goes out then that is deal breaker territory. Better yet, what if their servers are having issues and I get screwed that way?
Wickerbasket
Member
Is it? That line confused the hell out of me.
Does it mean my saves and settings aren't stored on the console anymore? Or that it might delete my local saves if it thinks I'm running out of room?
right, so now what happens when I install too many games (all disc games need to be installed too)?
Kacho
Gold Member
I'm hoping not. Surely that can't be true. Kind of a deal breaker for me.
You can compare this to android vs ios approach. Android let's you and even sometimes expects you to micromanage your storage. iOS on the otherhand walls you off. The rationale behind iOS is that you shouldn't have to worry about your usage as data is constantly flowing up into the "cloud" to free up local storage.
No, you should always have your saves. This is game data that gets deleted. I wouldn't imagine that game data would ever get prioritized for keeping on the system over game saves.
Giant Bomb also said the system is intelligent. For instance if your save says you are on Chapter 3, the Xbox will start downloading chapter 3 when you start a game that isn't downloaded to your system yet.
This is incredibly stupid. Why in the hell would they choose to go with this.
Go on, keep spreading the fud.
Go on, keep spreading the fud.
No. They are uploaded to the cloud as a backup. Just like on 360 if you enable that option. That's how I read it.
The giantbomb crew said that they were. No way to move them manually. Right now at least.
That's not true at all you can see exactly how much an app has and you can delete that or data associate with it as well as individual data from icloud.
AuthenticM
Member
How fucking patronizing. They are taking their users for 8-year olds.
Until say, you're playing where you don't have a net connection. Fantastic.
Nice way of MS to hide how much of that 500GB is already eaten up.
Pretty fucking idiotic for them not to allow such a common place and archaic feature. It doesn't really effect me since I'm always online and unlikely to be playing old games that are automatically deleted, but I'm not everyone and it's stupid as all hell for Microsoft to remove the element of choice in this case.
This is definitely going to be something that's patched in at some point.
This is definitely going to be something that's patched in at some point.
zackmorris
Member
I don't know. At least on the PS4 you could see what the space is being used by and can manually delete what you no longer need.
The bigger issue is that on both consoles, if you are gaming offline, there is no way to bring your game save to a different console. Neither console supports USB drives.
So if your console is offline, and it dies, what happens to your game saves with no way to back them up?
Edit: Missed that there is a way for the PS4 to do this. This only applies to the Xbox One.
So if your console is offline, and it dies, what happens to your game saves with no way to back them up?
Edit: Missed that there is a way for the PS4 to do this. This only applies to the Xbox One.
Wrong.
Ray Wonder
Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
I'm assuming that it finds what games you've played the least, and longest ago; and deletes it when you download a game that will take you over the limit. That's not ideal, but it's probably what I would have done anyway. Actually finding things to delete on my 360 to make room for a download before I upgraded my hard drive was a pain.
Albeit, there should still be an option to delete anything you want manually, along with seeing how much space you have left.
Albeit, there should still be an option to delete anything you want manually, along with seeing how much space you have left.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
They should add the option but I can't think of a single point during the last generation where I was playing more than 3 games at the same time. So many games are one and doners I don't think I'll personally ever run into a issue with this.
Yeah, I changed my post. Didn't see the PS4 option. MS is going to have to fix this.
That's what it sounds like, wonder will it be added in once the external drive support comes
MikeE21286
Member
there is an option to delete whatever you want, but you cant see how much space you have left
GreatMightySymp
Member
So I guess the storage is powered by the infinite power of the cloud now too.
Eh, in ios there is a storage area so you can easily see the biggest space hogs and remove them. Even apple gives you this control or else you'd never realize how big some apps get as they keep getting add or in app downloads. Deleting apps randomly would be ridiculous
Sounds similar to Sony pitching no rumble in controllers as not needed back when ps3 was launched. Bullshit PR trying to mask an oversight that will no doubt get corrected
Yeah but when offline is there a way to access them?
i get messages every day telling me my iphone is full and I need to go delete some stuff
ElectricBanquet
Member
The info we have seems kind of unclear. If it only backs up your saves to the cloud then that's fine. If the system actually auto-deletes saves from your HDD to make space then that's a problem.
SEGAvangelist
Gold Member
Sounds like this actually. I feel like MS went TOO far with trying to make everything easy. Hopefully they strike a good balance over the coming months.
That is what I am saying. There has to be.
here is a screenshot. You can manually manage apps. You can also dig into an app and selectively delete app data. Anything stored on the icloud is similar. You can delete anything manually.
So, lemme get this straight.
Say, I have LocoCycle and NBA 2K14 installed on my Xbox ONE hard drive. I go on the Live Marketplace to buy Call of Duty: Ghosts. Not only will I not have any control over what gets deleted and what doesn't, but my Xbox might decide to go "DERRRRRRRRRRRP" and delete 2K14 instead of LocoCycle even though I play 2K14 more, but I might not have played it in 2 weeks?
Fuckouttahere...
Say, I have LocoCycle and NBA 2K14 installed on my Xbox ONE hard drive. I go on the Live Marketplace to buy Call of Duty: Ghosts. Not only will I not have any control over what gets deleted and what doesn't, but my Xbox might decide to go "DERRRRRRRRRRRP" and delete 2K14 instead of LocoCycle even though I play 2K14 more, but I might not have played it in 2 weeks?
Fuckouttahere...
I have 50+ GB's being eaten up by digital games on my 360 hard drive, most of that is from digital retail titles. This news will effect anyone that invests in digital and plays most of their library at whim.
Wickerbasket
Member
If that's the case then why even state that your saves and settings will be downloaded from the cloud when you re-install the game. It's not like you can manually delete the saves anyway, can you?
I really doubt they're so stupid as to delete your local saves, but the wording seems iffy.
Chance Hale
Member
Hopefully the expanded options come along with the external hard drive patch or earlier. Seems a really odd thing though, although I imagine it auto-uploads all your saves to the cloud like the PS4 and keeps original copies as well.
Giantbomb couldn't save games unless connected to the internet? That is what I'm trying to make sure I'm not reading into this. That would be lunacy.