What are some real-world examples of this? I don't think this is necessarily true in a vacuum.
It's a bit hard to quantify "real world examples" given the vastness that'd pertain to, but I remember some people calling Flava Flav a c--n and walking stereotype during the Flavor of Love stuff years ago for example, even though part of that is him playing up a character and he's seemingly pretty multi-layered personality-wise. But there were some, especially some black people at the time, who just couldn't look past anything surface-level.
I mean we can also see it in other works though. A lot of Hollywood works, when they're writing minorities like African-Americans, they kind of (imo) just try making them "complex" or troubled through things that aren't internally motivated, like systemic institutional issues and such. I just finished watching season 1 of Clarice and for whatever reason, even though they have Asian, Latino etc. minority characters just able to be themselves, the black characters like Clarice's friend (who btw looks nothing like the one from the 1991 film, but they were able to cast someone for Clarice who looks like a perfect fit between the ones in SotL and Hannibal movies) are the only ones burdened by systemic racism issues in the FBI.
Like, I'm sure that type of stuff exists in some small measures here and there; I'm also aware that IRL, agencies like the FBI and CIA have engaged in various operations that hurt lower-income, mostly-minority urban communities. But...I'm watching a show about a serial killer, right? In a series that goes into the psyche of these killers while we see them work against the system. The racial stuff they have right now with The Black Coalition and stuff like that, would be better served in a legal drama, not something like Clarice, yet it's forced in anyway (the show has a few other instances of things that feel that way, like the storyline with the trans character, etc.).
But I mean look at that; to those writers the only way apparently to have the black characters have conflict, is by having the source of the conflict be outside of themselves. Basically saying they can do no wrong, it's others around them responsible for their problems, but in reality at the very least it's a decent balance of both. Maybe they'll explore what internal issues or faults there are with those characters in the next season, but I'm not counting on it, and I'm just tired of these Hollywood works basically "othering" black people from even other minorities, let alone whites, in how they choose to stupidly write them.
Such as? And stereotypes aren't inherently problematic - they're only a problem when they assume the entirety of a character's identity or are inserted where they wouldn't make much sense to the character's premise. The primary reason why black communities celebrate these 'stereotypical' characters is that they're often rooted and predicated on African-American culture, so it's easy to relate to that stereotypical black city character who plays basketball. They also celebrate characters that outstrip general culture as well, like Blade or Mace Windu.
I agree that many stereotypes aren't inherently negative, and some are positive. My thing was more in the recent trend of some of these organizations pushing embrace and celebration of ignorant viewpoints, like they are inherently part of black communities or something. Again, these groups literally tried saying math, science and being fiscally responsible are "white supremacy" and systemic racism, which should be taken as an insult to literally everyone no matter your color.
They have a history of trying to push divisive rhetoric and ideas, and using black people as the vehicle to push them. I don't include things like black characters who like basketball in that, there's nothing wrong with that tbh. My thing is on the more recent push for trying (and hopefully failing) to associate outright ignorant and negative traits with concept of "black pride/power" or "being black" or whatever the hell these groups want to try phrasing it as these days. It's the wolf in sheep's clothing tactic.
I mean, I can see how being good at math and money has been historically a white privilege - there are still people alive from when school segregation between black and white people was a thing in America before the judicial reform - but it obviously isn't that much of an issue now. I'm pretty sure they were referring to the historical precedent.
I'm pretty sure they weren't. There have been plenty of white people bad at math and bad with money, going back to before the Dark Ages. There have been many black people across the world good with math, money and related skills well before the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade, during and after it as well. It is literally not "white privilege" to be good at math or smart with your money, this is one of the big lies being spread similarly to the lie that Christianity is "inherently racist", somehow.
This sort of rhetoric seems to be working more these days because more people are unaware of real history, and don't take the time to learn about it, even in bits and pieces. That's troubling to consider, yet here we are. No, I'm not saying or implying segregation wasn't real or that it didn't have negative consequences: you can simply look at historical evidence of the conditional difference in schooling facilities between white/non-white schools and see something was wrong.
But in a larger scheme of things, those schooling differences did not have impacts on math or money skills, as there were (and are) always other ways to learn those things, different methods etc.
