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Audioboxer

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OK, lets vote on the name:

http://www.strawpoll.me/11515061


If someone can also post the link in-game as a MOTD, would be nice. I'll be online only in like 12 hours.

Voted Guardians After Fortune. As much as I love foxes as foxes are the best, I think the other name fits a bit better. NW is all about dungeon diving and gaining loot. Although as we know this NW mmo likes to make RNG a total fucker as F2P gonna F2P.

If it were possible to get cosmetic fox masks in NW I'd have a punt at Great Aging Fox 😂 The upcoming event has some cool Halloween masks but no Foxes.

By the way Sky Broadband is down for a huge chunk of the West of Scotland so I have no Internet access. Only getting online via mobile. If it's not up in next few hours I'll try tethering PS4 to phone just so I can login for daily key.
 

Kinan

Member
Hey, wait a minute. You can actually buy armor enhancement with 3% frost res, put it on your old armor and enter the new dungeon? This may change my plans a bit.
 

Audioboxer

Member
Yea, my luck is also over after the patch. Almost like they tuned the drop rates...

Luck is over?! Of course it's over you hit the motherload :p In all fairness I think the game keeps a record of you getting legendary. Since I got it with the shaunkadul I've honestly had either complete crap, or run of the mill. Even out of the evil trove or w/e it's called again I got the elements item crap. Literally the most useless item in the game. Also I had one or two more which had weapon skins. Weapon skins that are just copies of the EE campaign weapon artifacts. Completely useless as well.

No wheel artifact or even one of the archons.

Also Jacob get your ass away from studies and change the guild name in the next few days :p
 

Audioboxer

Member
Going to have to PM jacob. Just had a leader in Somewhat Serious PM me asking where our leader was and wanting to know why the guild stronghold was set to invite only. I assume that is something setup wrong that means people can't visit/contribute to our SH?
 
Just PM if you need me! I'm busy with the partner and her daughter doing Halloween movie/game marathon and making costumes! I've been staying at her place a bit more often lately so less access to the PS4.

Also I do feel a bit bad for going w/ Great Aging Fox, didn't realize so many wanted Guardians After Fortune, i'm just fairly sure thats the FFXIV guild name and felt something a bit more original would be better, though now I do recall FFXIV GAF is Gather Against Fate. Also Great Aging Fox is just slightly daft enough for us, while thematically works with D&D!

We can change the name as often as we like though :), just have to keep the GAF acronym.
 

Kinan

Member
 
The new name suggestions are all terrible.

Just because the guild has gaffers in it doesn't mean the letters need spell GAF. Lot of members of it aren't even from Gaf.
 
Going to have to PM jacob. Just had a leader in Somewhat Serious PM me asking where our leader was and wanting to know why the guild stronghold was set to invite only. I assume that is something setup wrong that means people can't visit/contribute to our SH?

Letting people to our Stronghold is ok but we don't really want people donating to our coffer because it means all the other guilds, who happen to be stuffed to the max for most resources aside from a few campaign ones, gets to fill ours instead, which is in the same boat.

I mentioned this in guild chat, and whoever said we only need 3k guild marks for DF gear is wrong, it's 36000 needed for the main 4 parts alone, nevermind if want the other bits and never mind other stuff that is wanted on top of that.

Campaign resources are limited and don't give much, while the quests from the stronghold are maxed resources. At current rate of relying on campaign resources it would take months, never mind finding the time to actually do the quests for the resources.

We aren't only ones not sharing.
 

Kinan

Member
We have full control over coffers , we can set what is open for donation and what is not. Fully closing would be dumb, it would take us ages to lvlup the guild. Suggest what coffers you want to have closed and we can discuss that.
 
Wait Somewhat Serious? I haven't been paying attention are we alliance buddies!? =D

Also your Guild shouldn't worry about the armour and what not, your primary focus should be boons. For the physical goods you can freely hop into a higher ranking alliance guild's stronghold and buy hardgoods but boons are not shared and are arguably the most important part of a guild.
 
I log on and shocker! Even though we just upgraded I cannot donate to anything except campaign related resources, again.

Other guilds still got their stuff locked to their own members only.

I got tired of my inventory being full of resources I can never donate so deleted them all, and since I needed them to advance in gear I pretty much just gave myself reason to stop playing.
 
I log on and shocker! Even though we just upgraded I cannot donate to anything except campaign related resources, again.

Other guilds still got their stuff locked to their own members only.

I got tired of my inventory being full of resources I can never donate so deleted them all, and since I needed them to advance in gear I pretty much just gave myself reason to stop playing.

The only real categories that give much guild marks anyways are labor and influence, getting Dragonflight isn't meant to be fast it takes months just like the top PVP gear. I delete resource vouches constantly, most are useless I only keep the campaign, gem, and diamond ones.

Influence can never top out from what I have seen and you should be doing HE runs to earn it daily anyways.

Once your guild gets high level you will be able to donate much more easily. In SWS for example a number of our categories hit 300K+
 

Kinan

Member
I log on and shocker! Even though we just upgraded I cannot donate to anything except campaign related resources, again.

Other guilds still got their stuff locked to their own members only.

I got tired of my inventory being full of resources I can never donate so deleted them all, and since I needed them to advance in gear I pretty much just gave myself reason to stop playing.

You don't want to be constructive, I see. Well, if you need a reason to stop playing, this is as good as anything else.

We started GH4 upgrade 2 days ago, will be finished in like 9 hours. The next aim is marketplace lvl2, which is rather small step. And most of the small coffers were filled almost immediatly by our guild members, do not think anyone from the alliance even had a chance to contribute. You can look into the stronghold tab to check the history of donations, do you see a lot of alliance donations there?

As I said, lets discuss what coffers needs to be locked and we will do it. Labor I see as one that make sense to lock. What else? Gold, AD, Power? Leave only campaign donations open? Remember, our coffers are still very small, GH4 will be first signigicant size upgrade.
 

Audioboxer

Member
The new name suggestions are all terrible.

Just because the guild has gaffers in it doesn't mean the letters need spell GAF. Lot of members of it aren't even from Gaf.

Letting people to our Stronghold is ok but we don't really want people donating to our coffer because it means all the other guilds, who happen to be stuffed to the max for most resources aside from a few campaign ones, gets to fill ours instead, which is in the same boat.

I mentioned this in guild chat, and whoever said we only need 3k guild marks for DF gear is wrong, it's 36000 needed for the main 4 parts alone, nevermind if want the other bits and never mind other stuff that is wanted on top of that.

Campaign resources are limited and don't give much, while the quests from the stronghold are maxed resources. At current rate of relying on campaign resources it would take months, never mind finding the time to actually do the quests for the resources.

We aren't only ones not sharing.

I log on and shocker! Even though we just upgraded I cannot donate to anything except campaign related resources, again.

Other guilds still got their stuff locked to their own members only.

I got tired of my inventory being full of resources I can never donate so deleted them all, and since I needed them to advance in gear I pretty much just gave myself reason to stop playing.

This seems like a fair time to post a debbie-downer meme :p

Man, it's a bit of fun. Fair enough I made about 12k guild marks donating before alliances came about but to moan that other people can now help us is insane. The campaign currency requirements get astronomical. Look at Somewhat Serious, ToD currency alone at their level is 500 fucking k. 500k. You can run WoD dragon farming groups and get a great return on guild marks from ToD currency.

There's plenty of opportunity for everyone to get marks for DF. DF may be an upgrade as well but it's not as if it's light years ahead of Dusk. Just donate to other guilds as well! Big deal vouchers cant always be used, campaign currency can, so do your dailies and donate? If bag space is an issue just chuck green/blue coupons. Purple are worthwhile holding onto.

The main draw for alliances with big active guilds is to have people to run end-game content with and yes, get help maxing your SH to get guild boons. Otherwise have fun grinding for god knows how many years to max guild boons. Or paying out your ass by bending over and submitting "10 zen stronghold" boxes to LookGoodPlayGood or whatever they are called. P2W entry guilds are hardly a better situation than what we currently have.
 

nicoga3000

Saint Nic
Should I only donate to our guild, or should I donate to the "Something Serious" thing, too? I'm confused what I'm looking at in the new screen!
 

Kinan

Member
Should I only donate to our guild, or should I donate to the "Something Serious" thing, too? I'm confused what I'm looking at in the new screen!

Firstly to our guild. After that, if our coffers are full, you may donate to the alliance, if you need Guild marks urgently.

We need tons of ToD stuff going forward, so hold on those. We need like 400k just to be able to build GH2..
 

Kinan

Member
Well, surprisingly, PS4 Pro upscales Neverwinter to 4K better than my TV was doing it, so it looks cleaner. Frame rate is the same (crappy), but at least something. And loading is a bit faster I think, didn't have time to test it a lot yesterday. What is your experience, Brannus?


That Neverwinter Siege event drops a lot of blue SH vouchers, hopefully we can upgrade the Quarry soon, missing only equipment and Fey trinkets. Do it people. :)
 
Well, surprisingly, PS4 Pro upscales Neverwinter to 4K better than my TV was doing it, so it looks cleaner. Frame rate is the same (crappy), but at least something. And loading is a bit faster I think, didn't have time to test it a lot yesterday. What is your experience, Brannus?


That Neverwinter Siege event drops a lot of blue SH vouchers, hopefully we can upgrade the Quarry soon, missing only equipment and Fey trinkets. Do it people. :)


Same experience but since I put in my Samsung SSD, it loads stuff quicker. Colors and sharpness were improved as well. Menus also weren't as laggy. Big fights are still a total lagfest but that can't be helped due to poor optimization.
 

Kinan

Member
Is the Siege on Neverwinter a recurring event or is this new? Sorta just came outta nowhere. Was a nice little surprise.

I guess its first time on PS4. Was three times on PC already, no real frequency, but not very often.

first ran from September 18th, 2014 to September 25th, 2014. A second run ran from January 15th, 2015 to January 22nd, 2015. A third run took place from May 12, 2016 to May 26, 2016.

Quarry is upgraded, and Farm should be too very soon. Lumberyard will take some time though due to 200k ToD req.

After that we can finally reach GH5 and unlock first boon building. Any thoughts what it should be? Not barracks, I guess, we do not PvP enough fot it.
 
Are all 3 of the Defender classes good at tanking? Not sure which tank I want to roll up right now. I kinda wanna play Paladin, but they can be boring sometimes with less abilities. I also kinda wanna play the Great Weapon Fighter, but they can be bad at tanking sometimes, haha.
 
Are all 3 of the Defender classes good at tanking? Not sure which tank I want to roll up right now. I kinda wanna play Paladin, but they can be boring sometimes with less abilities. I also kinda wanna play the Great Weapon Fighter, but they can be bad at tanking sometimes, haha.

Well both guardian fighters and paladins make excellent tanks. One has buffs and the other has more survivability. It really boils down to which you enjoy playing more. I've always thought of GWFs as a pure DPS class that can take a few more hits but nowhere in the same league as the other two.
 

Audioboxer

Member
Yea, we probably will need to put a vote on it. Here is the overview:

https://www.arcgames.com/de/games/n...-neverwinter%3A-boon-structure-guide-dev-blog

I think Stable would probably be the best, Temple second choice, Explorers guild - third.

Definitely stable considering armour penetration is lacking in many people's builds. *hint* :p

In saying that though it is something that can be made up in your build, and sometimes pumping it up via guild boons means people end up with too much. It does hit a cap at 65%.

It'll help people less fortunate with artifacts/bonding stones/zen mount with +2000 armpen though. For those of us fortunate to be near the arm pen cap or at it, we can just try to rejig build gear if guild boon send us over.

2nd best seems to be The Barracks as power doesn't cap so is always good. XP bonus is meh though.

Mount Speed Bonus and Defense Bonus are both good to go along with arm pen so stable it is if you ask me.

Also jacob/fhey guess you've moved on to other games or still plan on coming back at some point?
 
Well both guardian fighters and paladins make excellent tanks. One has buffs and the other has more survivability. It really boils down to which you enjoy playing more. I've always thought of GWFs as a pure DPS class that can take a few more hits but nowhere in the same league as the other two.

Yeah it seems the order that the defender part is listed is important. It's first on the Paladin and Guardian, but second on the Great Weapon dude.


I played both Paladin and Guardian up to 5 to get a little bit of a feel, I like both so far. The healing circle is cool and the warp attack are neat on the Paladin, but I also like the slash and shield bash on the Guardian.

I'm probably gonna go Guardian, because I will be playing with a Rogue Warlock and Cleric, so having dungeoneering would be nice. I don't like the shield being on left click though, it feels weird.
 

Kinan

Member
Yeah it seems the order that the defender part is listed is important. It's first on the Paladin and Guardian, but second on the Great Weapon dude.


I played both Paladin and Guardian up to 5 to get a little bit of a feel, I like both so far. The healing circle is cool and the warp attack are neat on the Paladin, but I also like the slash and shield bash on the Guardian.

I'm probably gonna go Guardian, because I will be playing with a Rogue Warlock and Cleric, so having dungeoneering would be nice. I don't like the shield being on left click though, it feels weird.

End game paladins are complaining about lack of agro holding tools and further planned nerf in 10.5, so GF is a safer choice for a pure tank.
 

Kinan

Member
For those that didn't hear me yesterday in guild chat, a word of warning here. SwS will make their SH invite only as soon as they hit GH12, which is in 2-4 days. You can still ask any Rank5,6 or 7 for the invite to be able to buy DF armor, and they will most likely lift the restriction when they do DF events, but generally it will be more inconvenient now.

The reason is that they want to have a first night advantage on mastercraft materials maps. Selling those materials will make them rich if you control the supply, which they intend to do for some time.

Seeing how huge their investment was to reach GH12 in the first place, I'm ok with it. For one of the elite guilds on PS4, they are rather good bunch and fun to play with.

And yea, jacob armitage, where the hell are you gone? And what have you done to KoE leader which is now MiA for like 3 weeks? :) Come back and play a bit, guild chat is too quiet. :)
 
For those that didn't hear me yesterday in guild chat, a word of warning here. SwS will make their SH invite only as soon as they hit GH12, which is in 2-4 days. You can still ask any Rank5,6 or 7 for the invite to be able to buy DF armor, and they will most likely lift the restriction when they do DF events, but generally it will be more inconvenient now.

The reason is that they want to have a first night advantage on mastercraft materials maps. Selling those materials will make them rich if you control the supply, which they intend to do for some time.

Seeing how huge their investment was to reach GH12 in the first place, I'm ok with it. For one of the elite guilds on PS4, they are rather good bunch and fun to play with.

And yea, jacob armitage, where the hell are you gone? And what have you done to KoE leader which is now MiA for like 3 weeks? :) Come back and play a bit, guild chat is too quiet. :)

Understandable but I'm glad I got my full DF set already! We're slowly crawling our way to rank 5 so I'd hate to see the requirements and time investment needed for rank 12.
 

Audioboxer

Member
Almost over 3k item level. Just blew all my Zen/AD rather than waiting any longer, exchange on PS4 doesn't look like it's going to explode as expected.

Got up to a vorpal rank 9, bonding stones rank 11 each and all my azures to rank 9 each. If I bought some armour kits I'd go over 3k but I'll just wait till I have leatherworking at 25 and do it myself. Good thing is when enchants reach rank 10 you don't need copies of them anymore to upgrade further. I'll try and save up RP stones between now and Christmas and see if I can get some to rank 10 (there is another 2xRP at Christmas).

Also managed to nab a blue air archon for 160k AD (thanks everyone opening lockboxes ;)), so last companion I need for build. Could have gone purple for around 600k but not enough AD. I'll just upgrade it eventually.

But yeah, now I'm totally skint. As in zero AD. lol. I have 200k in unrefined to be fair.

Also jacob, time to make Kinan the guild owner? Or do you plan on coming back some day? Missing this weekend is :(
 
Well I had a crap double Refinement. Had enough to get another mythic artifact but didn't realise the free artifact from the seer girl capped at purple.......fed two level 59's into it and only hit Legendary due to that major screw up. ='(

Anyways what should I be stocking up on for 10.5? What are these item maps people are talking about, are they in game already? If so how do you get them?


Oh btw Audio I had your thought to just wait till lvl25 to make my own armour kits but I ended up doing that and you rarely break even and usually wind up losing like $20K making them yourself. They are a slow selling item so major undercutting is common preventing profit. So you're better off just buying them.
 

Audioboxer

Member
Well I had a crap double Refinement. Had enough to get another mythic artifact but didn't realise the free artifact from the seer girl capped at purple.......fed two level 59's into it and only hit Legendary due to that major screw up. ='(

Anyways what should I be stocking up on for 10.5? What are these item maps people are talking about, are they in game already? If so how do you get them?


Oh btw Audio I had your thought to just wait till lvl25 to make my own armour kits but I ended up doing that and you rarely break even and usually wind up losing like $20K making them yourself. They are a slow selling item so major undercutting is common preventing profit. So you're better off just buying them.

Really? Ouch.

I need 4 greater critical ones. The only thing I don't like about them is once used they cannot be transferred to new armour. I mean I guess I have full DF and am I hell changing to stupid charge up armour. F2P nonsense.

Although I've heard the armour coming in mod 10.5 even when not charged up at all still pips DF. So I guess that is worth considering depending on how easy it is to obtain.

Not too sure what maps are, I just know Somewhat Serious has stopped allowing people to go to the SH to prevent anyone else getting access to maps. Fair enough I guess considering effort required to get a SH to rank 12. We're only just about to hit rank 5. Although the GAF guild isn't the most active and in general it seems like many people quit NW once it comes to end game. It is incredibly grindy and dungeon loot drops are terrible. I finally got some CN clears done which went totally smoothly, but the loot for completing the "hardest dungeon" pre-mod 10 was terrible.

It's the usual, bro, I heard you like peridots? Have some.
 

Kinan

Member
Ha, you l33t 3k+ lot, I just managed to lvlup last blue item (artefact cloak). Ended up close to 2800, but not quite there. Not even thinking of mythic yet, maybe next 2x event I'll be ready for it.
 

Audioboxer

Member
Ha, you l33t 3k+ lot, I just managed to lvlup last blue item (artefact cloak). Ended up close to 2800, but not quite there. Not even thinking of mythic yet, maybe next 2x event I'll be ready for it.

I don't have anything mythic yet either (3 legendary now, 1 still epic). Just been farming all my dread/sharandar keys the past 24~48 hours for stones and marks of power. Had a blink dog finally drop out of the chest at the end of sharandar tower. First I've ever seen one. Shame the AH price for them has collapsed. Mod 10 did make their active power less useful.

2 Azure at rank 10 now (all the rest rank 9), and I focused on getting all my utility slots to rank 10. 1 Dragon Hoard rank 10, 1 Fey rank 10 and 3 rank 10 Quartermasters. Should help me get tons of RP stuff for next 2xRP. I am just trying to get everything to rank 10 to stop the need for dupes to upgrade. Vorpal will probably be last, I have it at rank 9. To make another rank 9 or buy one is expensive as fuck. I hope a future lockbox drops vorpals.

I only have about 50 preservation wards left. Overall I done really well with all that I bought. A fair few 5/10% chances succeeded fairly quickly. I bought some coals for getting Vorpal to rank 9. Couldn't be bothered risking the 1% chance on 100+ wards.
 
I'm at 2840 iLVL with only one armour kit and only R8 enchants so can probably hit 3K in the coming weeks, just REALLY pissed about screwing up that artifact refinement.

The huge loss of AD honestly hurts more than the iLVLs I lost out on.
 
Although the GAF guild isn't the most active and in general it seems like many people quit NW once it comes to end game. It is incredibly grindy and dungeon loot drops are terrible.

Because the end game content is shit and impossible to run frequently unless you roll tank or healer.

I cannot even farm epic dungeons on my TR, I will often be in a queue for 30 minutes just for a 0/1 invite to pop up which is 99% of the time a failed instance not worth joining, and due to shitty queue system you either accept it, see it's failed and quit out to restart queue all over, or decline and restart queue all over. Demogorgon queue just times out 90% of the time and you get 1 chance at that an hour. The Epic versions of dungeons are even worse, assuming you finally after 30 minutes get put in a full group at start with tank and healer, they're usually shit and cannot even beat the dungeon because the entry requirement is so low.

Sure I got my tank to farm some items for my TR with, but what is the point if when playing my TR I cannot run anything reliably?

Sure can ask in chat if anyone wants to run something, but even in the alliance chat it's the same problem, too many people running DPS and it just tanks and healers wanted most of the time.

Earning guild marks at any decent rate is still near impossible when it should be easy as shit. I logged on everyday during the 2x guild mark promo and couldn't donate a fucking thing to any guild except for a few campaign mats. Turns out you're meant to create a guild, stuff the labour slot, then destroy it over and over because the 'normal' means is worthless unless you get super lucky on your timing after something is built.

If you just wanna log on, make some progress and log off a little bit a day it is nearly impossible.
 
Why are you guys doing random queues when we have a huge alliance to get people from?

Might take just as long to get a group going but once you get one you'll run things far quicker and most will plan on doing multiple runs.

Also there is no cap on Influence and you can always get 400 a day, you think stronghold gear is bad look at non-stronghold pvp gear some you can't get for a literal year.
 
Why are you guys doing random queues when we have a huge alliance to get people from?

Might take just as long to get a group going but once you get one you'll run things far quicker and most will plan on doing multiple runs.

Despite a huge alliance there are only so many people online at once, and still have the DPS problem with people asking for tanks and healers a lot. Plus I noticed some regular people only run stuff with the same few people and generally don't raid otherwise.
 
Despite a huge alliance there are only so many people online at once, and still have the DPS problem with people asking for tanks and healers a lot. Plus I noticed some regular people only run stuff with the same few people and generally don't raid otherwise.

I usually just start asking for people myself to avoid the DPS struggle, tends to work well enough.
 

Kinan

Member
I usually just start asking for people myself to avoid the DPS struggle, tends to work well enough.

Yea, as a DPS one just need to organize events oneself, works almost every time, even though sometimes you can't find a tank or healer for some time. The alliance works quite good for us, without it I would be also already frustrated, I think.

FF15 is coming in tomorrow, so I'll be also less online next few days, I think. :) Only so much time to play games, sadly.
 
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