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New NVIDIA SUPER GPU's on the way

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WCCFTECH received some insider info portaining the recent "Something SUPER is coming" Nvidia Tweet... Everyone thought it was related to Quake 2 RTX, but it appears this is probably more likely.

They are supposedly announcing the GPU's on 6/21 and they should be about the same price as the current lineup.

MORE INFO HERE.
 

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Exclusive: NVIDIA RTX Super Graphics Cards Pricing, RTX 2080 SUPER $799 MSRP, RTX 2070 SUPER $599 MSRP and RTX 2060 SUPER for $429 MSRP


If that's the case then a lot of people hoping they could get the new improved 2060, 2070 or 2080 at the same prices are going to be sorely disappointed.

WccftechGPUMSRP
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 TiTU102A$1199.99
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 TiTU102$999.99
NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2080 SUPERTU104-450$799.99
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080TU104A-400$799.99
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080TU104-400$699.99
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPERTU104-410$599.99
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070TU106A-400$599.99
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070TU106-400$499.99
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPERTU106-410$429.99
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060TU106A-400$349.99
 
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Leaving I don’t buy that the 2080 Super is a Ti die. They regular 2080 is a cut down doe already so the have room for the fully enabled dies in the product line.
 

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Exclusive: NVIDIA RTX Super Graphics Cards Pricing, RTX 2080 SUPER $799 MSRP, RTX 2070 SUPER $599 MSRP and RTX 2060 SUPER for $429 MSRP


If that's the case then a lot of people hoping they could get the new improved 2060, 2070 or 2080 at the same prices are going to be sorely disappointed.

WccftechGPUMSRP
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 TiTU102A$1199.99
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 TiTU102$999.99
NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2080 SUPERTU104-450$799.99
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080TU104A-400$799.99
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080TU104-400$699.99
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPERTU104-410$599.99
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070TU106A-400$599.99
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070TU106-400$499.99
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPERTU106-410$429.99
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060TU106A-400$349.99
Annnnnnd...... There it Is! ..... I guess some never learn...
 

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Leaving I don’t buy that the 2080 Super is a Ti die. They regular 2080 is a cut down doe already so the have room for the fully enabled dies in the product line.
This. Every news i have seen regarding the RTX2080 Super says it's a Ti die but the only core count that surfaced up until now was 3072 and that is a TU104 complete die - https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-tu104.g854.

These are nothing but slightly spruced up versions of the normal ones so they can again price them at original turing's prices.

Not sure if Navi has a fighting chance or not but if it doesn't it will probably not be due to this Super lineup.
 
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This. Every news i have seen regarding the RTX2080 Super says it's a Ti die but the only core count that surfaced up until now was 3072 and that is a TU104 complete die - https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-tu104.g854.

These are nothing but slightly spruced up versions of the normal ones so they can again price them at original turing's prices.

Not sure if Navi has a fighting chance or not but if it doesn't it will probably not be due to this Super lineup.
To be fair even 3072 would make for a "pathetic" 2080 Super imho. It is just like 4% more cuda cores and that is not noticable when gaming.

I still have hopes that the 2080 Super is some sort of TU102 salvage with somewhere between 3200 and 3400 Cuda cores, but I think it is out of the question. Most rumors seem to point at, like you said, full TU104 with 3072 cuda cores.

Out of the new GPUs that would make the 2080 Super the loser compared to the 2060 and 2070 Super, but we also have to keep in mind that the basic RTX 2080 is already better than anything AMD has to offer so there is no real reason to give gamers more.
The 2060 Super and 2070 Super on the other hand are clearly aimed at taking out the RX 5700 and RX 5700 XT and from looking at the specs of them I guess that they are going to be slightly better.

I am not really impressed by what I am seeing, but to be fair I haven't been impressed in a while. The RTX launch in 2018 was not that great, the Navi cards from AMD are not that great and the rumors about the SUPER cards at the rumored prices are also not impressive for 2019.

SADLY. I can't wait anymore. Next year Nvidias 7nm offering are probably going to kick butt
 

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I'm going to be honest , I'm confused about this whole super thing, from the price to the nomenclature. Can someone explain it to me.
 

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Exactly, they are not selling Turing due to bad price to performance and no one cares about rtx, yet that never really mattered to Nvidia because fans lap up their cards up at high prices. However, Turing reception shook them, investors are dropping them and they need money. Yet somehow people expect good guy Nvidia is going to increase the performance on Turing with Super and lower prices as a sign of goodwill and love of its fans? OK....
 

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I'm going to be honest , I'm confused about this whole super thing, from the price to the nomenclature. Can someone explain it to me.
Supers are expected to use faster ram and possibly be using more CUs.
Nobody knows neither how much more they'd cost, nor how much faster they'd be.
 
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I'm going to be honest , I'm confused about this whole super thing, from the price to the nomenclature. Can someone explain it to me.
I can only talk from the point of view from rumors. I don't know anything official other than the teaser Nvidia shared on their GeForce twitter account.

Well basically AMD is going to release two new cards. The RX 5700 and the RX 5700 XT.
Those cards are faster than the RTX 2060 and RTX 2070 for around roughly the same price minus a bit.

Now Nvidia has to react with new cards, but a new generation of cards is not ready and also not needed to beat the two AMD cards.

What Nvidia is going to do is basically taking slightly bigger chips from bigger cards with disabled units to compete with those AMD cards and beat them.

So think of a "bad" RTX 2070 chip with disabled units sold as RTX 2060 Super. That card comes with 8GB GDDR5 just like the RX 5700 and also (probably) slightly beats it then.
And a "bad" RTX 2080 chip sold as RTX 2070 Super to beat the RX 5700 XT handily.

What nvidia can do here is staying "the best" at all price brackets and still having overall the best products
 

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And, thanks to AMD's *obscene* reveal prices for the 5700 and 5700XT (each with a lousy sub-1080TI performance, so they make for *terrible* upgrade options at any price), Nvidia has chosen to massively increase the launch prices of the *super* variants.

Here's what's going on, guys. AMD wants you to move up two grades (pricewise) and buy the killer 12-core Zen2 CPU. So the 'value' Zen2 is also the most expensive one.

Meanwhile, Nvidia wants you to move up two price grades and buy a 2080TI (2080 super) class GPU- cos now almost the most expensive 'affordable' Nvidia GPU will be the 'value' one.

Pay less and you end up with a laughable joke of a GPU when the new consoles arrive. So pay less, and you only have, at most, one happy year of ownership before consoles *humiliate* you. But pay at the new low-high end (600-800 dollars), and at least you can probably use that card across 3 years and still feel happy about owning it.

PS there *is* going to be a price war between AMD and Nvidia new and old GPU stock that will consistantly batter down prices from now til Nvidia's Samsung 7nm chips hit next year. AMD's Navi will be *much* cheaper within two months. Turing and Pascal bargains from the older lines will keep appearing at ever lower prices. GPUs are currently overpriced by a factor of greater than *twice*, and memory prices have cratered acroos the last six months.

But Nvidia will do its best to defend the price of 1080TI+ class performance, where AMD does not compete. People like myself, who only think an upgrade of at least 1080TI level is worth while, are totally screwed. A one-third bigger navi part would have hit this easily, without having to be run well beyond its happy limits. But AMD has promised Sony and MS to hold back much better navi parts til *after* the new consoles hit, so the new consoles can have their moment of glory.