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Rumor New Sonic 30th Anniversary details leaked by credible Nintendo leaker Zippo

Ristifer

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Except Sonic tubers actually praised Mania; they just don't want it to be the future of the franchise. And no, Classic can die. That's an era of Sonic long past; if you still want 2D gameplay, it'll be Modern Sonic. There are tons of 2D sonic fangames on the level of the originals, and even 2D sonic ripoffs like Freedom Planet for you to enjoy.
I’m not sure why you keep thinking I only like Classic Sonic. I just don’t understand why they can’t have both separately. I agree with you that they shouldn’t both be in the same game. And I want a good Modern Sonic game. I’ve said that numerous times.

It can’t just be about wanting to go off and play 2D fan games. There are plenty of fan games with Modern Sonic as well, so that argument holds no water. So I could just tell purely Modern Sonic fans the same thing. But I wouldn’t. Because I understand the desire for official game approaches. Which is what I was hoping for with both Sonic generations. And why I hope most of this rumour is false.
 

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A few people in youtube comments for a Sonic Show Video have said Zippo confirmed it was him who posted the leak (on discord and RE about 4 hours ago).

Anyone know how reliable he is? Or seen the evidence of this?
 
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Found confirmation about the blog post belonging to the real Zippo, from the Moderator at the Sonic Retro Forums. Now it's gotten interesting 🤔

 
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It is not broken, it is different.

Anything that is not Sonic 2 physics is broken to you people. Sonic Rush plays nothing like Sonic 2 or 3, still the game certainly isn't broken. This applies to Sonic Generations 3DS and Sonic Forces etc...
All I needed to read was that they're not making a new Mania. My day is ruined.
I was hopping for an higher profile sonic classic game from the same team
 
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Well, I just like Sonic, be it 2D or 3D, modern or classic, I just love when Sonic is done right.

I could do with less artificial segmentation between modern and classic, should have been a 1-game gimmick in Gens. There should just be a 2D or a 3D Sonic game, and Sonic's design should be dependent on how they decided to make him look in it, not some specific "type" like classic or modern. Example: polygonal Mario in 2D games isn't "modern Mario in a classic game". It's just Mario in a game.

I could also do with less of the bad VA, corny dialog, unnecessary story in what should be a simple action game, but I have put up with all that before and would do it again. IF they can get the most important thing right, let me pick up a controller and play a full campaign of well designed levels as Sonic with physics that feel right...to this day it feels like the only 3D game to get this right was Sonic Adventure in spite of all the other flaws.

I want Sega to surprise me but I just haven't the faintest bit of optimism left in me that they can do this...
 

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New posters celebrating Sonic 30th have been spotted. Seem to show a lot of modern adventure style art in a few, which makes me cautiously excited (hand-picked below):



Full news at:
For the modern side, i just see Adventure/Generations.


Oh... I also spotted Sonic Forces and Team Sonic Racing :/ (but there is also Transformed in one of the posters 🙏 )
 
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I didn't hate all the output, some was decent such as Colors. Generations was very good in both 3D and 2D. Lost World was OK.

The 3D Sonic games post adventure were not making Sonic any more popular. People weren't lining up to buy these titles. No one cared about them, gamers and kids had both moved on.

People are not "dying" to see what the next big 3D Sonic game is, the series' reputation was already completely ruined by the late 2000s.

So yes, if you actually want the Sonic series to survive it makes sense to have successful games.

Furthermore, many people ONLY like Sonic Adventure and not the classic games or new games, but it doesn't mean they aren't "real fans".

Being a fan of something doesn't mean you have to love every entry. Star Wars is a great example. There are three very different trilogies and it would be idiotic to expect someone to love all three.

Being a fan means you want a series to be at its best, so I'd say having a critical eye is a big part of it.

Why does everyone like colors??? It seemed like a cheap Saturday morning cartoon with dumbed down storylines compared to the 3D games and the gameplay was completely unfun...just wondered what all this praise about colors was all about!?
 
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Why does everyone like colors??? It seemed like a cheap Saturday morning cartoon with dumbed down storylines compared to the 3D games and the gameplay was completely unfun...just wondered what all this praise about colors was all about!?
I don't. Sonic plays like trash in Colors. At least in Lost Worlds it was not a floating mess and levels were another scope.
 
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Why does everyone like colors??? It seemed like a cheap Saturday morning cartoon with dumbed down storylines compared to the 3D games and the gameplay was completely unfun...just wondered what all this praise about colors was all about!?
It didn't have the Werehog and came out on a Nintendo console, so it got free praise points.
In reality is just a worse version of Unleashed, which is, for the record, a genuinely great game.
 

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Why does everyone like colors??? It seemed like a cheap Saturday morning cartoon with dumbed down storylines compared to the 3D games and the gameplay was completely unfun...just wondered what all this praise about colors was all about!?
It wasn't amazing but it was finally a game that didn't try to make sonic "serious and cool", after games like Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic 06 it was well needed.
 

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Without Sonic 3 & Sonic & Knuckles?

Seriously sort it out, it's stupid
Haha apparently the theory is that Michael Jackson didnt mind his music and similarities were used in the game. But now that he's died, if Sega do anything with it they may have to recognise his contributions and such, which could be a lawsuit for them from Jackson's estate managers.

If Sega try and change the music on a re-release, Michael Jackson's estate could potentially use this as evidence that Sega has known of the similarities in the music.

If all this is true, then it seems plausible that Sega would just be avoiding the game altogether and move on.
 
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With respect to Mania, the assumption is that the developers that made it are good to continue to make Mania 2, 3 and so on.
They could very well have ambitions to make games of their own creation, rather than perpetually generate spin-off Sonic games, as is well within their right to do.

That being the case, I would rather they didn't make a Mania 2 with Dimps and end up butchering its image like they did with Sonic 4.
 

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Why does everyone like colors??? It seemed like a cheap Saturday morning cartoon with dumbed down storylines compared to the 3D games and the gameplay was completely unfun...just wondered what all this praise about colors was all about!?

Its not so difficult to understand. Colors is more simplier, has more charming stages instead of "real world" inspired ones, better gimmicks like Wisps(which quite frankly isn't the best idea but works overall only in this game) and less boost demanding level design.

And thats not to say its perfect or that great. Colors have some retarded level of script(which makes me wonder how someone is paid to write a crap like this) although its not like they're much different from nowadays, villains are a joke(might be the dumbests easy bosses ever) and secondary characters added to the roster of annoying Sonic characters.

I still would play this game over things like Weretardedhog or Forcedge.
 
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Hoping it is announced within 2 weeks really.
Same here buddy.

On the Colours Argument:
Put me down for not liking it. It's all 2d and blocky. Using wisps stops your actual gameplay, so are just very unfun. Storytelling is ass (although the Japanese version is much better). But it does have a little charm, i'll give it that. And the music is pretty good too.
 
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Speaking of Sonic, it's confirmed, the success of the first movie was not pure luck. Sonic will save PARAMOUNT.

Sponge Bob (full trailer) thousands views in several weeks.

Sonic (a poor teaser), millions views in a few days.

Sega has a treasure in the pockets...
When they'll stop doing shit with the franchise, they'll fart gold bars.
The most fascinating part ? Paramount will push Sonic for Sega for decades to come. (lucky Sega)

Some Sonic episodes almost sold 3 millions units on the Wii, we can easily imagine 10 millions units for a multi after 2030.
 
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What's the deal with all these Gamecube Sonic fans pushing the narrative that Colors, Generations and Mania are bad games?

Couldn't you just cointain the (deserved) hate on Forces?

I'm cleaning up Forces right now, I'm not finding it to be that bad.