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Cringe New Star trek series, will "take on Trump and Brexit"

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What is so jarring about this? The Star Trek series, carrying on the mission of its creator, has always tapped into the Zeitgeist to promote a positive and hopeful vision of the future. Mining the current climate for ideas, using the ugliness of Trump and Brexit as examples of humanity at its worst, seems entirely in line with how Roddenberry approached the creation of this world.
- China's ethnic cleansing of the Uighur people, subjugation of Hong Kong, dystopian hellscape of a surveillance state, and 21st century exploitation and colonization of African resources.

- Russia's recent steps to install Putin as a dictator for life, and a return to the government practices of the Soviet Union.

- The entire Middle East.

- Venezuella going from the wealthiest nation in South America to a place where people resort to eating their pets so they don't starve in a time span of 20 years.

- The EU's creeping consolidation of political power, now actively calling for a trans-national 'European Army' lead from Brussels (Berlin).


And you want to run with the narrative that Donald Trump, and Brexit are examples of the worst humanity has to offer?

 

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- China's ethnic cleansing of the Uighur people, subjugation of Hong Kong, dystopian hellscape of a surveillance state, and 21st century exploitation and colonization of African resources.

- Russia's recent steps to install Putin as a dictator for life, and a return to the government practices of the Soviet Union.

- The entire Middle East.

- Venezuella going from the wealthiest nation in South America to a place where people resort to eating their pets so they don't starve in a time span of 20 years.

- The EU's creeping consolidation of political power, now actively calling for a trans-national 'European Army' lead from Brussels (Berlin).


And you want to run with the narrative that Donald Trump, and Brexit are examples of the worst humanity has to offer?

This x1000.

You're living in a bubble if you think Trump (and I'm no big fan of Trump) or Brexit are examples of humanity at its worst considering everything else.

It's just an easy way out like feminists who whine about scantily-clad video game characters but silent on the real abuse and mistreatment of women in other countries.
 

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- China's ethnic cleansing of the Uighur people, subjugation of Hong Kong, dystopian hellscape of a surveillance state, and 21st century exploitation and colonization of African resources.

- Russia's recent steps to install Putin as a dictator for life, and a return to the government practices of the Soviet Union.

- The entire Middle East.

- Venezuella going from the wealthiest nation in South America to a place where people resort to eating their pets so they don't starve in a time span of 20 years.

- The EU's creeping consolidation of political power, now actively calling for a trans-national 'European Army' lead from Brussels (Berlin).


And you want to run with the narrative that Donald Trump, and Brexit are examples of the worst humanity has to offer?

Star Trek has always been a western-oriented series, they did not deal with east asian issues in the past either, or at least not as the main theme for the series. The consolidation of power in the EU is totally in the sense of Star Trek, which has a united world government and not even an earth-specific army but science/army branch for the whole federation of planets, Starfleet. You cannot expect such a vision to be mad about consolidation of powers in the EU, right? Of all political things in the western world, I do think Brexit and Trump can be considered the worst large-scale examples of humanity especially within in the framework of Star Trek, which has always been about cooperation, openness, discrimination-freeness, union and tearing down walls. Nationalism, which is at the core of Trump's and Brexit's successes among voters, is the anti-thesis to Star Trek's core philosphy.
 
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- China's ethnic cleansing of the Uighur people,
Super mega fake news. Literally not happening. Uighur's are one of the fastest growing groups in China, alongside Tibetans and are free to travel around China and the world. So much so that up to 10,000 joined Syrian rebels in Syria.

hellscape of a surveillance state
Very fake news. The fakest. Fewer cameras per capita than the US. Fewer prisoners than the US. Fewer police than the US. Police are unarmed. NO police shootings. :messenger_tears_of_joy:

subjugation of Hong Kong
Ultra Fake news. Is Washington subjugating California? A sovereign territory of China where China can appoint leadership as did the British-is subjugating itself? The HK police have been using kid gloves on literal kid protesters burning people alive. In the Us they would have been shot and killed. Which is exactly what happened when blacks rose up against their perceived white opressors in 1992's LA and were gunned down and crushed by federal troops. Talk about perceptive misdirection. :messenger_tears_of_joy:

exploitation and colonization of African resources.
Literal hyper mega fake news. Is that what they call TRADE these days? What did they call it in 1999 when the US was exploiting and colonizing African resources? Freedom?


Russia's recent steps to install Putin as a dictator for life, and a return to the government practices of the Soviet Union.
Fairly fake news. He weakened the presidency (head of state), increased power of Prime minister ship and decentralized the entire system with the intent to usher in a Parliamentary republic. I.E THE OPPOSITE of the soviet Union. What he does or does not do after is immaterial to your fairly fake news because he can't be a dictator under such a system. At most he can be a strong prime minister. Do you even know what a dictator is? It is a roman term for a military general that takes control over all delegates and affairs. If he wanted to be a dictator he would have centralized the presidential system further and removed term limits entirely...with 80% support he has the mandate to do it without protest.

The entire Middle East.
Because of the US itself. Invasions, occupations, bombings, sanctions.

Venezuela going from the wealthiest nation in South America to a place where people resort to eating their pets so they don't starve in a time span of 20 years.
Because of the US itself. Sanctions and clandestine operations to destabilize. The Bolivian president for example was literally toppled by a US led right-wing military coup. So far the most they could do to Venezuela was create a festering minority elitist right-wing opposition and sanction all aspects of the economy. Chile just went from the most developed south American country to verging on civil war because the military is murdering people on the streets. Not a peep from the US.

The EU's creeping consolidation of political power, now actively calling for a trans-national 'European Army' lead from Brussels (Berlin).
Misleading News. I don't support the EU (because it is a beta den) but from the outset the goal was clearly voluntary federalization under a woke neoliberal framework of SJW crazies. Brexit actually proved that it has no teeth. States can just leave at will.

And you want to run with the narrative that Donald Trump, and Brexit are examples of the worst humanity has to offer?
Finally, a valid point. Real news. Trump is nothing. Brexit is nothing when it comes to worst of the worst. The worst humanity has to offer is US foreign policy itself, and everything it ties into (Saudi medievalist kingdom, wahhabist groups abroad, toppling of governments, invasions, mass murders under occupation, drone wedding massacres etc.)

As for star trek its time is over. These actors are walking dead and the dream lives on with the Orville.
 
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Super mega fake news. Literally not happening. Uighur's are one of the fastest growing groups in China, alongside Tibetans and are free to travel around China and the world. So much so that up to 10,000 joined Syrian rebels in Syria.



Very fake news. The fakest. Fewer cameras per capita than the US. Fewer prisoners than the US. Fewer police than the US. Police are unarmed. NO police shootings. :messenger_tears_of_joy:



Ultra Fake news. Is Washington subjugating California? A sovereign territory of China where China can appoint leadership as did the British-is subjugating itself? The HK police have been using kid gloves on literal kid protesters burning people alive. In the Us they would have been shot and killed. Which is exactly what happened when blacks rose up against their perceived white opressors in 1992's LA and were gunned down and crushed by federal troops. Talk about perceptive misdirection. :messenger_tears_of_joy:



Literal hyper mega fake news. Is that what they call TRADE these days? What did they call it in 1999 when the US was exploiting and colonizing African resources? Freedom?




Fairly fake news. He weakened the presidency (head of state), increased power of Prime minister ship and decentralized the entire system with the intent to usher in a Parliamentary republic. I.E THE OPPOSITE of the soviet Union. What he does or does not do after is immaterial to your fairly fake news because he can't be a dictator under such a system. At most he can be a strong prime minister. Do you even know what a dictator is? It is a roman term for a military general that takes control over all delegates and affairs. If he wanted to be a dictator he would have centralized the presidential system further and removed term limits entirely...with 80% support he has the mandate to do it without protest.



Because of the US itself. Invasions, occupations, bombings, sanctions.



Because of the US itself. Sanctions and clandestine operations to destabilize. The Bolivian president for example was literally toppled by a US led right-wing military coup. So far the most they could do to Venezuela was create a festering minority elitist right-wing opposition and sanction all aspects of the economy. Chile just went from the most developed south American country to verging on civil war because the military is murdering people on the streets. Not a peep from the US.



Misleading News. I don't support the EU (because it is a beta den) but from the outset the goal was clearly voluntary federalization under a woke neoliberal framework of SJW crazies. Brexit actually proved that it has no teeth. States can just leave at will.



Finally, a valid point. Real news. Trump is nothing. Brexit is nothing when it comes to worst of the worst. The worst humanity has to offer is US foreign policy itself, and everything it ties into (Saudi medievalist kingdom, wahhabist groups abroad, toppling of governments, invasions, mass murders under occupation, drone wedding massacres etc.)

As for star trek its time is over. These actors are walking dead and the dream lives on with the Orville.
Whoa! The bolded! Dude ... Just ... What?!
 
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Show proof or get back on topic pls. Star Trek is a more real discussion anyway.

Let’s see..

Refugees of the fighting in the Central African Republic, January 19, 2014
 
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Super mega fake news. Literally not happening. Uighur's are one of the fastest growing groups in China, alongside Tibetans and are free to travel around China and the world. So much so that up to 10,000 joined Syrian rebels in Syria.



Very fake news. The fakest. Fewer cameras per capita than the US. Fewer prisoners than the US. Fewer police than the US. Police are unarmed. NO police shootings. :messenger_tears_of_joy:



Ultra Fake news. Is Washington subjugating California? A sovereign territory of China where China can appoint leadership as did the British-is subjugating itself? The HK police have been using kid gloves on literal kid protesters burning people alive. In the Us they would have been shot and killed. Which is exactly what happened when blacks rose up against their perceived white opressors in 1992's LA and were gunned down and crushed by federal troops. Talk about perceptive misdirection. :messenger_tears_of_joy:



Literal hyper mega fake news. Is that what they call TRADE these days? What did they call it in 1999 when the US was exploiting and colonizing African resources? Freedom?




Fairly fake news. He weakened the presidency (head of state), increased power of Prime minister ship and decentralized the entire system with the intent to usher in a Parliamentary republic. I.E THE OPPOSITE of the soviet Union. What he does or does not do after is immaterial to your fairly fake news because he can't be a dictator under such a system. At most he can be a strong prime minister. Do you even know what a dictator is? It is a roman term for a military general that takes control over all delegates and affairs. If he wanted to be a dictator he would have centralized the presidential system further and removed term limits entirely...with 80% support he has the mandate to do it without protest.



Because of the US itself. Invasions, occupations, bombings, sanctions.



Because of the US itself. Sanctions and clandestine operations to destabilize. The Bolivian president for example was literally toppled by a US led right-wing military coup. So far the most they could do to Venezuela was create a festering minority elitist right-wing opposition and sanction all aspects of the economy. Chile just went from the most developed south American country to verging on civil war because the military is murdering people on the streets. Not a peep from the US.



Misleading News. I don't support the EU (because it is a beta den) but from the outset the goal was clearly voluntary federalization under a woke neoliberal framework of SJW crazies. Brexit actually proved that it has no teeth. States can just leave at will.



Finally, a valid point. Real news. Trump is nothing. Brexit is nothing when it comes to worst of the worst. The worst humanity has to offer is US foreign policy itself, and everything it ties into (Saudi medievalist kingdom, wahhabist groups abroad, toppling of governments, invasions, mass murders under occupation, drone wedding massacres etc.)

As for star trek its time is over. These actors are walking dead and the dream lives on with the Orville.
Unless this is some,kind of elaborate troll there is only one question I have for you. How many yuans did Winnie the Pooh add your account for that post?