Newly revealed 1500 year old Bible says that Jesus was not crucified

[Krakn3Dfx]

http://www.themindawakened.com/2014/05/1500-year-old-bible-claims-jesus-christ.html

Discovered and kept secret in the year 2000, the book contains the Gospel of Barnabas – a disciple of Christ – which shows that Jesus was not crucified, nor was he the son of God, but a Prophet. The book also calls Apostle Paul “The Impostor”. The book also claims that Jesus ascended to heaven alive, and that Judas Iscariot was crucified in his place.

Wonder if this will have any long reaching implications to the current religious canon or if it will just be swept under the rug in the end.

Not a religious person myself, but I find biblical history to be fascinating regardless.

 

[Lovely Salsa]

This changes everything

But how come there is no bible from the time Jesus died? Its always hundreds of years afterwards

 

[-COOLIO-]

what a twist.

i guess there's room for a sequel.

 

[Maninthemirror]

so one supernatural element replacing another. right.

 

[Twilight Gap]

This is almost as bad as the Star Wars retcon

 

[SimleuqiR]

So it's like Earth-2 Jesus.

 

[Joni]

The Catholic Dogma only recognizes the four gospels in the Bible. If this is 1500 years old, it was written after they decision which four to include. The Synod of Hippo was around 300 BC, so 200 years before this gospel was written.

There are many, many more gospels. They aren't and will never be part of the Bible. The Gospel of Judas Iscariot is a lot more exciting by the way.

 

[fawaz]

I am not sure if judas was the person who was crusified in his place, but other than that it fits pretty well with the Islamic narrative of the event.

 

[Lach]

So will this become canon and the the old bible will be declared as "The Bible: Legacy"?

 

[figadapaura]

Am I going to hell for sinning now, since Jesus didn't die for them?

 

[saelz8]

Dunno about that source, bruh.

 

[WyndhamPrice]

This changes everything

But how come there is no bible from the time Jesus died? Its always hundreds of years afterwards

Christianity took a while to get going, relatively speaking.

It was kind of a goofy cult for a long time before it reached enough people.

 

[marrec]

what a twist.

i guess there's room for a sequel.

Camera frame on a hand getting nailed to a cross, cut to cross from behind with a figure hanging sadly, cut to close up of eyes and a slow pull out to reveal IT WAS JUDAS ON THE CROSS!

Then cut to Jesus standing on a hill overlooking the three crucifixes, he turns to the camera and gives it a big slow wink. Credits.

Perfect setup for Jesus 2.

 

[j-wood]

So i mean...is this legit? Because that's a blogspot blog if i'm not mistaken.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

They found the book 14 years and actually kept it a secret? That's some Final Fantasy Tactics shit right there.

 

[slit]

The Catholic Dogma only recognizes the four gospels in the Bible. If this is 1500 years old, it was written after they decision which four to include.

There are many, many more gospels. They aren't and will never be part of the Bible. The Gospel of Judas Iscariot is a lot more exciting by the way.

Only because of some arbitrary judgement. The only reason it's not included is because it wasn't included from the begining or because it's contridictory which is ironic since the bilble is filled with those anyway..

 

[CrazyDude]

I have a feeling this is fake. Forgers loved to make words gold and make the cover out of animal skin.

 

[sphagnum]

The Gospel of Barnabas has been known for centuries, it's nothing new, and like many other apocryphal books (and canonical books) its origin is so much later than the events themselves that it is useless as a primary source.

Edit: The Gospel of Barnabas also has Jesus specifically state that Muhammad will come after him, so we know it was written at the very least after Islam came about, which is to say at the absolute earliest in the 7th century.

 

[Hari Seldon]

There were lots and lots of "heresies" in the early days of the Church, this is well known by historians and the Church itself.

 

[shuri]

whatatwist.jpg!

so I guess Judas never snitched?

 

[Aquamarine]

Jesus 2: The Aftermath

So i mean...is this legit? Because that's a blogspot blog if i'm not mistaken.

Seems like it.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/t...28m-bible-linked-to-gospel-of-barnabas-70148/

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

This is very close to what Islam believes about Jesus. Not the Son of God but a Prophet and such.

 

[slit]

This is very close to what Islam believes about Jesus. Not the Son of God but a Prophet and such.

I was thinking that too actually.

 

[magichans]

1500 year old Bible? So it was made hundreds of years after Jesus and the commonly recognized gospels? lol

 

[Joni]

Only because of some arbitrary judgement.

Yes, but that arbitrary judgement is the base of the entire Christian religion. As such, you have the Bible and you have all the other gospels.

 

[RustyNails]

Gospel of Barnabbas is proven to be forgery though right?

 

[Savitar]

Bible Wars, coming this season on History TV.

 

[Aquamarine]

This is very close to what Islam believes about Jesus. Not the Son of God but a Prophet and such.

Muhammad is the one true prophet

Y'all Christians need Allah.

 

[Rikkun]

I guess this proves nothing, since you could just write a bible and slam in an apocrypha gospel, no?

 

[OldRoutes]

So they're trashing the EU of Jesus now too?

 

[magichans]

Also there are already "biblical" texts outside of canon featuring some silly things. Look up the Gospel of Thomas.

 

[Heshinsi]

The book sounds just like the Qur'anic version of details? lol

The Qur'an also came out around 1500 years ago, and the story is EXACTLY the same. Prophet, not a child of God, not crucified, sent to heaven, Judas replaced on the cross. Everything is the same. Someone call a copyright lawyer.

 

[thechristoph]

Pretty interesting, since the Gospel of Barnabus was thought to have been written in the 17th century.

 

[slit]

Yes, but that arbitrary judgement is the base of the entire Christian religion. As such, you have the Bible and you have all the other gospels.

Ok but then you have to admit that Christianity has no real truths and is based off of folklore.

 

[magichans]

Bible Wars, coming this season on History TV.

Nah, because that would actually be history......

 

[Dark Octave]

Too confusing, too many stories, too little evidence and nothing will ever be proven.

None of it is worth wasting brain cells on.

 

[Kraftwerk]

The book sounds just like the Qur'anic version of details? lol

The Qur'an also came out around 1500 years ago, and the story is EXACTLY the same. Prophet, not a child of God, not crucified, sent to heaven, Judas replaced on the cross. Everything is the same. Someone call a copyright lawyer.

I was about the make the same post.

 

[Ekdrm2d1]

 

[adj_noun]

Gospel of Barnabus?

You're not fooling me, Stinson.

 

[evilromero]

http://www.themindawakened.com/2014/05/1500-year-old-bible-claims-jesus-christ.html



Wonder if this will have any long reaching implications to the current religious canon or if it will just be swept under the rug in the end.

Not a religious person myself, but I find biblical history to be fascinating regardless.

This changes nothing. There are plenty of contradictory texts and accounts that the various churches have left out of the bible. Religion is a business. Why disrupt things when it's going so well and making so much money?

 

[xbhaskarx]

Am I going to hell for sinning now, since Jesus didn't die for them?

No, Judas died for your sins.

 

[HassanJamal]

The book sounds just like the Qur'anic version of details? lol

The Qur'an also came out around 1500 years ago, and the story is EXACTLY the same. Prophet, not a child of God, not crucified, sent to heaven, Judas replaced on the cross. Everything is the same. Someone call a copyright lawyer.

It actually is. Interesting stuff for both religions now.

 

[Joni]

Ok so we agree, Christianity has no real truths and is based off of folklore.

I think it is best to leave discussions like this out of unrelated topics.

 

[Aquamarine]

This changes nothing. There are plenty of contradictory texts and accounts that the various churches have left out of the bible. Religion is a business. Why disrupt things when it's going so well and making so much money?

If there was "non-arbitrary" texts, there wouldn't be so many religions.

Why doesn't the Bible take the Qur'an into account? Why don't they believe Muhammad is the one final prophet? One billion people believe in Islam just like Christianity, surely it must be just as correct?

It's all arbitrary.

 

[Matesamo]

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Or see it live on its current worldwide tour! Now in the Middle East and Africa, soon in the UK! Get your tickets early for the best seats!

 

[Blader]

Judas just can't seem to catch a break.

 

[solarus]

Isn't this exactly the same as the islamic version now? Jesus a prophet instead of son of god, judas being crucified in his place and jesus ascending to heaven.

 

[slit]

I think it is best to leave discussions like this out of unrelated topics.

How is it unrealated? We're talking about gospels that are not part of the bible. It's directly related to religious dogma.

 

[Joni]

Why doesn't the Bible take the Qur'an into account? Why don't they believe Muhammad is the one final prophet?

Because CHristianity is based around the figure of Christ. The Qur'an doesn't recognize him as the Son of God. Why don't the Jews accept this Jesus fellow?

How is it unrealated? We're talking about gospels that are not part of the bible. It's directly related to religious dogma.

Yes, not the direction that discussion would go.

 

[syllogism]

i) this manuscript was found in February 2012
ii) it was written in Syriac
iii) it hasn't been dated to be 1500 years old
iv) it was only speculated/claimed to be the Gospel of Barnabas, but according to one expert it appears to consist of random gospel verses and quotations and not in any way related to Barnabas. The Gospel of Barnabas may make the claims listed in the OP, but this manuscript does not appear to be related to those claims in any way.

Given the lack of news since 2012, I think we can safely dismiss the authenticity or significance of the finding