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[Kinan]

Well, this sure will help to ground discussions about market sizes:

https://newzoo.com/insights/rankings/top-100-countries-by-game-revenues/

Excludes hardware sales though.

Germany is number 4, surprised that France is so much smaller than Germany, UK and Korea.

 

[backflip10019]

Wow, China has eclipsed the US? That's surprising.

 

[Nirolak]

Wow, China has eclipsed the US? That's surprising.

The're also on a gigantic growth path.

 

[Unknown?]

Lol @ people saying Japan is insignificant. It's not what it used to be but still big. Also Germany > UK? It's grown a lot.

 

[Cess007]

Surprised to see Mexico at 12th. We're not that behind of Rusia

 

[Nirolak]

Surprised to see Mexico at 12th. We're not that behind of Rusia

Square Enix has actually been making a deal of trying to get into Mexico and India due to current and expected growth.

 

[Bronetta]

Canada in the top 10 with the lowest population.

 

[Stop It]

I remember when the UK was rivaling Japan, now we are behind Germany? Ok so we are still a significant market but that stings.

 

[kromeo]

Lol @ people saying Japan is insignificant. It's not what it used to be but still big.

Well presumably this includes revenue from ftp phone games

 

[kiunchbb]

Canada in the top 10 with the lowest population.

Made sense since every game you buy cost a lot more lol.

 

[Napalm_Frank]

I remember when the UK was rivaling Japan, now we are behind Germany? Ok so we are still a significant market but that stings.

You guys are the worst cheapskates when it comes to gaming lol. You have gotten too used to dem deals.

 

[Cess007]

Square Enix has actually been making a deal of trying to get into Mexico and India due to current and expected growth.

Yeah, I remember being (delightfully) surprised a while ago when SE started to post some jobs offers in Mexico

 

[Madness]

Lol @ people saying Japan is insignificant. It's not what it used to be but still big. Also Germany > UK? It's grown a lot.

These estimates are based on a combination of primary consumer research, transactional data, quarterly company reports, and census data. The revenues are based on consumer revenues generated by companies in the global games industry and exclude hardware sales, tax...

Don't think anyone said Japan was insignificant. Japan however is increasingly lower and lower in the console space which is easily observable. This research clearly includes mobile and PC gaming which has skyrocketed in Japan, it is also why China is already ahead of the US. Japan is still a dominant gaming territory, but in terms of traditional gaming, ie. Hardware and handheld purchases, it is nowhere near what it was.

 

[Nirolak]

Well presumably this includes revenue from ftp phone games

Yes, and that accounts for ~$8+ billion of it.

The console market is more in tune with Germany and the UK.

 

[Guymelef]

Lol @ people saying Japan is insignificant. It's not what it used to be but still big. Also Germany > UK? It's grown a lot.

This include mobile etc... Nobody said Japan is insignificant as gaming market.

 

[hanspampel]

Lol @ people saying Japan is insignificant. It's not what it used to be but still big. Also Germany > UK? It's grown a lot.

only for console
for mobile japan is close to be as big a the US, if i'm not mistaken

 

[Ushay]

Wow the chinese market is ripe for console gaming, wonder why none of the big three have ever managed a foothold over there?

 

[kromeo]

Wow the chinese market is ripe for console gaming, wonder why none of the big three have ever managed a foothold over there?

I think they were banned for a long time by Chinese government?

 

[cheesekao]

Wow the chinese market is ripe for console gaming, wonder why none of the big three have ever managed a foothold over there?

Console revenue in China grew more than 55% in 2016 over 2015. Someone's doing some work, presumably Sony since they have the largest presence there among the three.

 

[Christhor]

India lol. Get your shit together.

 

[kami_sama]

I would have thought Spain was going to be a lot lower. We even beat Italy, with more than 10 million people more.

 

[Nirolak]

only for console
for mobile japan is close to be as big a the US, if i'm not mistaken

It's bigger than the US currently actually.

 

[Spaced Harrier]

Hahaha

 

[Bronetta]

Made sense since every game you buy cost a lot more lol.

Dammit it's true. $80 is ridiculous.

 

[KawabataSan]

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[shandy706]

Perhaps this explains why Xbox has more sales/revenue than PS despite the big difference in hardware sales.

 

[MaxDOL]

I am surprise that Thailand rank with in top 20.

We most likely spend our money on free2pay games both on pc and mobile.

Our console spending probably is insignificant because Sony is the only first party currently operate in the country while Nintendo distributor(MaxSoft) operate from Singapore and Microsoft do not even bother to market in the country.

 

[Nightengale]

Wow the chinese market is ripe for console gaming, wonder why none of the big three have ever managed a foothold over there?

Plenty of reasons, but a simple through-line.

PC exclusives in China >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all console exclusives on 3 platforms combined.

 

[Ombala]

Make America great again.

 

[johancruijff]

Hahaha

Iranland

 

[aBarreras]

Square Enix has actually been making a deal of trying to get into Mexico and India due to current and expected growth.

expected grow for india right? becuase here in mexico the games have been doubling in price because the peso plummeted against the dollar.

 

[eyesradar]

I assume Tencent took over half of the total revenue in China!

 

[cheesekao]

Perhaps this explains why Xbox has more sales/revenue than PS despite the big difference in hardware sales.

I don't see you can extrapolate such data when it includes a whole host of other revenue streams besides that of consoles'. Even without them, you still wouldn't be able to do so.

 

[Ombala]

Perhaps this explains why Xbox has more sales/revenue than PS despite the big difference in hardware sales.

Lol what?

 

[jayu26]

Perhaps this explains why Xbox has more sales/revenue than PS despite the big difference in hardware sales.

Xbox doesn't have more sales or revenue. What the hell are you smoking?

 

[Nesther]

Switzerland on 26. Pretty decent for such a tiny country.

 

[DasDamen]

Dammit it's true. $80 is ridiculous.

Well, revenue is measured in USD, so not actually true.

 

[HMD]

19. Saudi Arabia

It's great that we have a growing presence, I hope we get to actually make the games soon and not just consume them.

 

[shandy706]

I don't see you can extrapolate such data when it includes a whole host of other revenue streams besides that of consoles'. Even then, you still wouldn't be able to do so.

Lol what?

It doesn't.

So nothing can be pulled from it based on population vs spending totals?

Eh, maybe not. It is a broad stroke including a ton of data.

NM

Xbox doesn't have more sales or revenue. What the hell are you smoking?

Ah, I was under the impression they made more off of Xbox Live and revenue per user than their competition did off their similar networks. Maybe I misread something.

 

[MiamiWesker]

Wow, China has eclipsed the US? That's surprising.

The extra billion people might be a reason why.

 

[1st Course]

(bubble size = revenue)

Was carious how would this look in a graph. Going forward countries like India and Brazil seems to have enormous growth potential.

 

[Nirolak]

(bubble size = revenue)

Was carious how would this look in a graph. Going forward countries like India and Brazil seems to have enormous growth potential.

Yeah, BRIC is a huge focus for the games industry right now.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

I thought Japan was irrelevant?

Someone also told me that UK was the biggest after US?

Did NewGAF lie to me?

 

[Nirolak]

I thought Japan was irrelevant?

Someone also told me that UK was the biggest after US?

Did NewGAF lie to me?

Most GAF posters are probably talking about console games since that tends to be the focus on the site.

 

[Ombala]

Yeah, BRIC is a huge focus for the games industry right now.

This is why MS needs a new strategy Sony seems ahead in this regard.

 

[Primethius]

Pakistan at #51 is not bad for a market still trying move away from the gray market into legalalized sellers (for Sony anyways, don't see much Xbox).

 

[Bronetta]

Well, revenue is measured in USD, so not actually true.

Ah jeez ur right. Guess we just love games that much.

 

[Fiendcode]

Don't think anyone said Japan was insignificant. Japan however is increasingly lower and lower in the console space which is easily observable. This research clearly includes mobile and PC gaming which has skyrocketed in Japan, it is also why China is already ahead of the US. Japan is still a dominant gaming territory, but in terms of traditional gaming, ie. Hardware and handheld purchases, it is nowhere near what it was.

Dedicated hardware is down in all historically core regions. Japan's not alone in that, it's just shaken out a bit differently with home consoles flatlining. In the west it was handhelds and the exiting casual mainstream.

 

[hanspampel]

(bubble size = revenue)

Was carious how would this look in a graph. Going forward countries like India and Brazil seems to have enormous growth potential.

great graph, thanks
what bubble is mexico,tho?
imho mexico deserves a name to the bubble, too


mexico and brazil are the 2 most important and biggest latin american markets

I thought Japan was irrelevant?

Someone also told me that UK was the biggest after US?

Did NewGAF lie to me?

Console gaming Japan is not in the Top 3 anymore
it's behind Germany now (maybe Switch will change that again)


Console gaming (not including handhelds)
#1 US
#2 UK
#3 DE
#4 JP

PC gaming
#1 China
#2 US
#3 Korea
#4 DE

Mobile
#1 China
#2 JP
#3 US
#4 probably Korea

don't take my rankings for 100% correct, i could be wrong on a placement
but to give you an idea of the different markets, this is pretty accurate and good

 

[Apathy]

I'm actually a bit surprised we Canadians are up at 8