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|OT| Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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pawel86ck

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Why are you confusing CPU clock and GPU pixel fill rate ?

And whats a RDNA1 card got to do with anything ? It does not matter what pixel fill rate, shader rate, terrafloppies, cache or CU occupancy or whatever, it depends how all the design works as a whole and what can be done in the frame time.

Both consoles are more similar just go about it diffetent ways - some posters are only comfortable with a clear winner - I wonder why ?
I think performance level in the end will be similar on both consoles and PS5 thanks to higher clock will probably negate such small 17% TF difference. GPU design however is clearly not the same, because 16 CUs difference is really big. I find it hard to believe 52 CUs GPU will end up with the same amount or ROPs as much smaller 36 CUs GPU (RDNA1 GPUs on PC shows a clear patern of ROPs scalability with higher number of CUs). It's also hard to believe PS5 GPU dont have HW and VRS support like leaks suggest, because all RDNA2 GPUs should share these technologies. In fact PS5 games shows RT already (theres no way any game would run at 4K with RT without HW for it), so these leaks mentioning no HW RT in PS5 werent correct for sure.

The reality is, we still dont now important details in regards to XSX / PS5 GPUs, so detailed comparisons between these two GPUs are flawed. If I would make such disingenuous comparison based on leaks data you PS guys would hunt me and want my blood 😅 (and I know Georidemp you would be the first one, who would report me😉).
 
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This Joker :messenger_tears_of_joy: Fud Meister


Lol did he delete the second tweet?
 

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pawel86ck pawel86ck , definitely true that outside of the engineers and developers nobody really knows the intricacies of each unit and how they stack up. We'll have to wait to see side-by-side comparisons.

Personally, I hope that they are within spitting distance of each other. At least when just looking at the screen, I'm not really concerned with the freezeframe and zoom situation.
 
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So, any news about framerates of new AC:V, Watch Dogs or FarCry games on next-gen systems? Still 30 fps with only graphical upgrades?
 
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So, any news about framerates of new AC:V, Watch Dogs or FarCry games on next-gen systems? Still 30 fps with only graphical upgrades?

AC:V was put at 30fps on Xsex back at the MS thing in May wasn’t it? 4k30fps on Xsex?

Looking at it though I struggle to believe that’s correct - it doesn’t look that good in demos. Maybe it’s just the video source.

So far, nothing on the others...
 
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I think performance level in the end will be similar on both consoles and PS5 thanks to higher clock will probably negate such small 17% TF difference. GPU design however is clearly not the same, because 16 CUs difference is really big. I find it hard to believe 52 CUs GPU will end up with the same amount or ROPs as much smaller 36 CUs GPU. It's also hard to believe PS5 GPU dont have HW and VRS support like leaks suggest, because all RDNA2 GPUs should share these technologies. In fact PS5 games shows RT already (theres no way any game would run at 4K with RT without HW for it), so these leaks mentioning no HW RT in PS5 werent correct for sure.

The reality is, we still dont now important details in regards to XSX / PS5 GPUs, so detailed comparisons between these two GPUs are flawed. If I would make such disingenuous comparison based on leaks data you PS guys would hunt me and want my blood 😅 (and I know Georidemp you would be the first one, who would report me😉).

I only report people who are very personal in attacks and rude, you are courteous its nice to see. So many just go insults and ad hominem as they have nothing to say really - why go on a message board just to insult others ?

All those numbers were extrapolated form the AMD RDNA1 white paper and best guesses for RDNA2. You are correct, we know little. Performance is about adding up all the cycles needed to do everything a game needs in a frame....so we know little.

We also dont know about mesh shaders, VRS, Cerny mentioned a new Ps5 new geormetry engine that culls vertices early if you listen carefully to his presentation - It might all be the same AMD crap with different names :messenger_beaming:

At least it a fun read. Sony need to make more fancy names up for functions like MS to get us even more confused.
 
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I only report people who are very personal in attacks and rude, you are courteous its nice to see. So many just go insults and ad hominem as they have nothing to say really - why go on a message board just to insult others ?

All those numbers were extrapolated form the AMD RDNA1 white paper and best guesses for RDNA2. You are correct, we know little. Performance is about adding up all the cycles needed to do everything a game needs in a frame....so we know little.

We also dont know about mesh shaders, VRS, Cerny mentioned a new Ps5 new geormetry engine that culls vertices early if you listen carefully to his presentation - It might all be the same AMD crap with different names :messenger_beaming:

At least it a fun read. Sony need to make more fancy names up for functions like MS to get us even more confused.

Go to hell BRAVE FART, Report me :messenger_heart:
 

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Funny thing is that I hear from people that third-party games will run at higher resolutions (wut?) on the Series X due to the 1.87 TFLOPs difference, but then you find out if both consoles have the same amount of ROPS, PS5's pixel fill rate is gonna be higher due to it's clock speed. But nowadays, it's texture fill rate that's more important than pixel fill rate imo.
 
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I’m posting this just to laugh when he delete the tweet on Monday.


Shenanigans. I've never heard of pre-orders being flung out on such short notice. We still have no definitive idea of all features, the UI, confirmed launch titles, etc.

I would be absolutely shocked if they did something like this. Additionally, though I've been gone from GameStop for a long time, my old boss is still sloggin' along. He hasn't heard anything at all.

Doesn't disprove it, but we usually knew in advance.
 

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Shenanigans. I've never heard of pre-orders being flung out on such short notice. We still have no definitive idea of all features, the UI, confirmed launch titles, etc.

What short notice? They’ve been talking about the PS5 for ages.

Preorders for the PS4 were right after the E3 price drop. Once a price is known, a big retailer like Amazon can take pre-orders. They know they’ll have stock and they can estimate it conservatively.

I don’t know if we will get a price tomorrow, but the day we do, it’s almost certain that we will be able to preorder
 

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What short notice? They’ve been talking about the PS5 for ages.

Preorders for the PS4 were right after the E3 price drop. Once a price is known, a big retailer like Amazon can take pre-orders. They know they’ll have stock and they can estimate it conservatively.

I don’t know if we will get a price tomorrow, but the day we do, it’s almost certain that we will be able to preorder

I just feel like we need a breakdown before the preorders happen.
 
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yes, that’s what I mean. Also statements like “can't be run elsewhere at that level” i will comment only with

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Well, let me ask you (and this would also be directed to others who may believe or think as you do) do you believe, given all the factual technical data we possess concerning not only the demo but both nextgen consoles, that the Series X can run the UE5 demo a 100% as efficiently as the PS5 did?
 

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She's a writer at The Cinema Spot, What's On Netflix and former writer at Geeks WorldWide. This was back in June.

MS have much more power and money to buy WB Games than EA, Take Two and Activision.

I belive the franchises would be better in their hands too (compared to the other companies). The problem is Gamepass that don't allow for now the development of various simultaneous higher budget AAA games, and MS would buy studios that specializes in AAA, but they can handle this I think.

Let's wait and see, I belive MS will win this war. For they is good chance to stand against Sony Marvel games like SpiderMan and IronMan, and have great franchises like Harry Potter and The Lord of the Rings.
 

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I am not sure what you are on about, Sony didn't buy a controlling share. Sony probably would have liked to if they could afford it, but they did not. If Sony has that kind of control they could just make Fortnite not run on Series X.
Sony could buy the entire company almost twice over.....


Dunno why people think they are some broke company!
 

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He's the exact match of fanboys here saying Ps5 is RDNA 3, ZEN3, and/or is as powerful as a 3080 🤣🤣🤣

Please quote posts of people saying that please.

That the PS5 during it's development has gotten some new goodies that weren't on the AMD roadmap before but now can become an AMD feature in the future it could mean some of those things can turn up in RDNA3 and/or Zen3.

Same goes for the Series X actually
 

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Sony could buy the entire company almost twice over.....


Dunno why people think they are some broke company!
Because doing E3 is too expensive that is one of the main excuses given for Sony killing the show lol. Things like that.
 
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