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|OT| Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Speculation/Analysis/Leaks Thread

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yeah one Rockstar game for a whole gen is not normal. I can imagine a GTA6 coming 2021 as a crossgen title. For the launch of next-gen it is too early I think
The post was removed from the site but using wayback machine archive still shows it. I'll see if I can find it again.

This was the famous pastebin and one of the first 'leaks' from there that had a couple of things right regarding PS5. They even mentioned GTA VI being a timed exclusive in time for the holiday release. That would be absolutely bonkers if that were true, but with the way a game from Rockstar is promoted, I doubt this would even remotely come out this Holiday. Maybe 2021 Holiday though possibly.
 

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The pigeon is merely flying at an altitude lower than he usually flies due to bad weather, and as such, will raise by at least a good 100-150 feet by the time everything clears up. Just so you know.

But it’s important to note...

Is still pigeon.
OK, 1600 + 150 = 1750 MHz.

There was 52 Coos there, so 1750 X 52 X 64 X 2 = 11.6 TFLOPPIES!!!

16-512 = 16 GB GDDR6 at 512 GB/s bandwidth!
 
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Based off a rumour from 4chan. Even Dictator from DF said it’s BS. Basically fan fiction.
Digital Foundry has confirmed RDNA2/NAVI 2X on PS5 ;)

👇👇👇
Oh, and not that it matters, but of course PS5 is RDNA2. I never said otherwise. I just hadn’t seen that presentation until today because I was not in town. I expect amazing things from PS5.
 
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alright, 10.65 then 🙃

Edit: That means we can close the thread now?
No. o'dium said currently devkit is at 11.6

There are 52 coos (52 CUs)

On the second line, the are 4 groups of coos with a groupd of 1 coo, then 7, 4, 3: giving 1743 mhz

52*128*1743 = 11.601 (11.6 tfops), just above 11.6 which can't be a coincidence.

16 chips of GDDR6 at 512GB/s (hello Oberon A bandwidth !)
The pigeon is merely flying at an altitude lower than he usually flies due to bad weather, and as such, will raise by at least a good 100-150 feet by the time everything clears up. Just so you know.

But it’s important to note...

Is still pigeon.
Ok so they intend to overclock for 100-150mzh so giving about : 12.2-12.6 tflops but still a pigeon...still a devkit ?
 
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When you keep saying "Just Pigeon", historically pigeons were used as messengers, to deliver information. Could this mean the machine you are describing is only maybe the devkit? used to relay information to the devs as to what to aim for, to develop on? This means this is probably not what the release console will have (but maybe close)
 

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No. o'dium said currently devkit is at 11.6

There are 52 coos (52 CUs)

On the second line, the are 4 groups of coos with a groupd of 1 coo, then 7, 4, 3: giving 1743 mhz

52*128*1743 = 11.601 (11.6 tfops), just above 11.6 which can't be a coincidence.

16 chips of GDDR6 at 512GB/s (hello Oberon A bandwidth !)

Ok so they intend to overclock for 100-150mzh so giving about : 12.2-12.6 tflops but still a pigeon...still a devkit ?
So, how do you use the '1600' in the address?
 

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No. o'dium said currently devkit is at 11.6

There are 52 coos (52 CUs)

On the second line, the are 4 groups of coos with a groupd of 1 coo, then 7, 4, 3: giving 1743 mhz

52*128*1743 = 11.601 (11.6 tfops), just above 11.6 which can't be a coincidence.

16 chips of GDDR6 at 512GB/s (hello Oberon A bandwidth !)

Ok so they intend to overclock for 100-150mzh so giving about : 12.2-12.6 tflops but still a pigeon...still a devkit ?

 
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No. o'dium said currently devkit is at 11.6

There are 52 coos (52 CUs)

On the second line, the are 4 groups of coos with a groupd of 1 coo, then 7, 4, 3: giving 1743 mhz

52*128*1743 = 11.601 (11.6 tfops), just above 11.6 which can't be a coincidence.

16 chips of GDDR6 at 512GB/s (hello Oberon A bandwidth !)

Ok so they intend to overclock for 100-150mzh so giving about : 12.2-12.6 tflops but still a pigeon...still a devkit ?
lol damn man you fucked the code up haha good job
 
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anyone else saw this?
Development is just begun and he already knows what a boss is going to drop? And Bloodborne 2 with a companion you need to protect? And one person have all this info of a big project, what is he, the producer? High profile workers do not bother to leak things, because they fucking love their jobs, I would love it too.
I call that some wacky under drugs bullshits.
 
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Man, fucking BS riddles again, this thread is like a yo-yo, rolling, rolling, but always back to the same place again. 🤮
 
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Digital Foundry... the one's that MS decided to unveil Xbox One X with... the same ones that leaked PS4 Pro white papers months before Sony revealed it... the same company pushing the same agenda pushing Github and PS5 being Oberon...with no RT, 36 CUs, going as low as saying it's not RDNA 2, even after Cerny in April 2019 saying Hardware RT... and AMD confirming RDNA2 in PS5...
sound like a bunch of paid of shilling fucking cunts to me. Same bullshit since PS3. Same bullshit when there was no One X, glass always half full downplays disparity. But lo and behold the 2nd coming of Xbox when the One X was released, leadbetter's wet dream come true.
Their a bunch of shilling cunts. Pity Dark10X has to work there. He's the only one worth giving praise to.
you do realize cerny did an exclusive ps4 pro interview with Richard right?

And Jeff from giantbomb leaked those ps4 pro specs first. Is he a paid ms shill?

Iirc, everyone on gaf and i mean almost everyone hated the idea of the pro. They thought it was the beginning of the end for console generations. It wasn't until DF started making positive videos showing the differences did the pro start to get accepted.

I still recall ign, candyland and ornery YouTube channels running two versions side by side in 1080p mode showing zero differences. DF actually went into detail about why pro versions were so great.

Stop with this ridiculous narrative.
 

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TechpowerUp updated it yesterday. Was there any new leak or rumor that could lead them to this?
It is based off of their speculation along with leaks and rumors. Most insiders believe 12TF or even higher. It's nice that they beleive in the RDNA 2 now. Here's hoping for a better world where people take this as a sign just like they did when MS had its specs up on there.
 
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you do realize cerny did an exclusive ps4 pro interview with Richard right?

And Jeff from giantbomb leaked those ps4 pro specs first. Is he a paid ms shill?

Iirc, everyone on gaf and i mean almost everyone hated the idea of the pro. They thought it was the beginning of the end for console generations. It wasn't until DF started making positive videos showing the differences did the pro start to get accepted.

I still recall ign, candyland and ornery YouTube channels running two versions side by side in 1080p mode showing zero differences. DF actually went into detail about why pro versions were so great.

Stop with this ridiculous narrative.
And time and time again DF made videos about PS exclusives praising pretty much everything. Killzone 2, Uncharted 4, Death Stranding, GoW, they LOVE those games at least from a tech perspective.
 
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Yeah, I think MAYBE it'll be 52 CUs X 1900 MHz to achieve EXACTLY 3 times the PS4 Pro's GPU in terms of numbers only.

PS4 Pro = 36 X 64 X 2 911 = 4.2 TFlops!
PS5 = 52 X 64 X 2 1900 = 12.6 TFlops!
Do we know the CU count of the Series X? Could MS also have the same amount of CUs but decided to not clock as high? Why wouldn't they, given RDNA 2 and heat?
 
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And time and time again DF made videos about PS exclusives praising pretty much everything. Killzone 2, Uncharted 4, Death Stranding, GoW, they LOVE those games at least from a tech perspective.
yep. I remember their watch dogs 2 video where they literally said they couldn't tell the difference between native 4k on pc and 4kcb on the ps5 unless they paused and zoomed in.

They have championed cernys 4kcb solution. They must literally be the worst ms fanboys.
 

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Digital Foundry... the one's that MS decided to unveil Xbox One X with... the same ones that leaked PS4 Pro white papers months before Sony revealed it... the same company pushing the same agenda pushing Github and PS5 being Oberon...with no RT, 36 CUs, going as low as saying it's not RDNA 2, even after Cerny in April 2019 saying Hardware RT... and AMD confirming RDNA2 in PS5...
sound like a bunch of paid of shilling fucking cunts to me. Same bullshit since PS3. Same bullshit when there was no One X, glass always half full downplays disparity. But lo and behold the 2nd coming of Xbox when the One X was released, leadbetter's wet dream come true.
Their a bunch of shilling cunts. Pity Dark10X has to work there. He's the only one worth giving praise to.
 

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Okay, so right now 52 CUs at 1600, but will go up to 1700 - 1750. Realistically between 11.3 - 11.6 TF. Thx, all I needed to know :)
So the Xbox Series X being about 12TF and 56Cu means that its at about 1700 to reach 12.1TF, for the PS5 to get near that it needs to hit 1810 to get 12.0 or 11.98 if it uses 1800. Even if sony uses super cooling to exceed Xbox numbers Microsoft could always introduce better cooling later to increase clocks further (as they have more headroom)
 

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Okay, so right now 52 CUs at 1600, but will go up to 1700 - 1750. Realistically between 11.3 - 11.6 TF. Thx, all I needed to know :)
no 52 at 1740 right now(On the second line, the are 4 groups of coos with a groupd of 1 coo, then 7, 4, 3: giving 1743 mhz ) and it can be bumped to 1900. 11.6 to 12.6
 
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Would be surprising, in 2018 they break $10bn barrier in annual revenue from gaming, services with reoccurring revenues are growing, so after the initial investment, they have made when they entered gaming market they are now starting to see some returns. Even with the Xbone that they have f*cked up royally on the launch, they have managed to hit good numbers in the later year.
Costs, Revenue, or profits?

I was talking about the console. I know Microsoft has combined all gaming related efforts into XBox studios.
 

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no 52 at 1740 right now(On the second line, the are 4 groups of coos with a groupd of 1 coo, then 7, 4, 3: giving 1743 mhz ) and it can be bumped to 1900. 11.6 to 12.6
But I dont want another pro hairdryer just for bragging rights, Sony should ensure that its quiet and remains quiet for the life of the system, and not a thermal paste / binning / assembled by lottery

Also 52 vs 52 CU is probably same 5800 family, Sony will get higher yields with more CU de-activated = cheaper.
 
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yep. I remember their watch dogs 2 video where they literally said they couldn't tell the difference between native 4k on pc and 4kcb on the ps5 unless they paused and zoomed in.

They have championed cernys 4kcb solution. They must literally be the worst ms fanboys.
Just look at the titles of those videos.
"A PS3 tech milestone" (Killzone 2, even exscusing the frame rate in some way) "a technical masterpiece" (Uncharted 4) "a stunning tech show" (GoW)
DS prettiest game of the gen and Detroit "phenomenal".
C'mon.
 
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