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|OT| Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Speculation/Analysis/Leaks Thread

SonGoku

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I know im lttp but what excited me the most recently is the ue5 demo running in real time on a console
Thats the next gen impression i was looking forward and im happy devs are willing to target 1440p/30fps to deliver insane visuals and worlds of great scope.

I was afraid all the marketing towards 4k/60fps would make them shy to push things further
 
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I know im lttp but what excited me the most recently is the ue5 demo running in real time on a console
Thats the next gen impression i was looking forward and im happy devs are willing to target 1440p/30fps to deliver insane visuals and worlds of great scope.

I was afraid all the marketing towards 4k/60fps would make them shy to push things further
First Welcome back SonGoku.

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It would be great if we have the possibility in the PS5 to choose the Assets Quality (like 8k assets or 4K compressed) to increase the resolution or fps. But if we have only 8K raw assets or something similar, I will be happy too.
 

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I know im lttp but what excited me the most recently is the ue5 demo running in real time on a console
Thats the next gen impression i was looking forward and im happy devs are willing to target 1440p/30fps to deliver insane visuals and worlds of great scope.

I was afraid all the marketing towards 4k/60fps would make them shy to push things further
Yaaaay Welcome Back!

 

SonGoku

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First Welcome back SonGoku.

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It would be great if we have the possibility in the PS5 to choose the Assets Quality (like 8k assets or 4K compressed) to increase the resolution or fps. But if we have only 8K raw assets or something similar, I will be happy too.
Thank you
About the assets quality: One of the benefits of nanite is to eliminate the need to create alternative quality assets, so not sure if including lower quality assets will have a significant impact on development time and install size. I need to catch up with eurogamer article so from my limited knowledge i think lower quality assets won't free significant GPU resources. It seems to me that would mostly alleviate storage bandwidth usage

Having said that devs could go for a in between quality as has been suggested, Lumen GI also seems pretty advanced. Im glad we are already seeing more performant alternatives to raytracing.

Lets see what aproach other next gen engines take: ubi, frostbite, R*, nd, gerrilla games and polyphony digital are the ones im more curious
 
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I know im lttp but what excited me the most recently is the ue5 demo running in real time on a console
Thats the next gen impression i was looking forward and im happy devs are willing to target 1440p/30fps to deliver insane visuals and worlds of great scope.

I was afraid all the marketing towards 4k/60fps would make them shy to push things further
Yep. 1440p 30 fps was music to my ears. The funny thing is that digital foundry wasn't able to count pixels and dictator was all we have to change the way we compare games going forward.
 

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First Welcome back SonGoku.

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It would be great if we have the possibility in the PS5 to choose the Assets Quality (like 8k assets or 4K compressed) to increase the resolution or fps. But if we have only 8K raw assets or something similar, I will be happy too.
I think these settling needs to stay on PC.
Console should have little to no options (little because all games should have accessibility options) for the best best experience.

It is about to start the game and play it like everybody else.
 
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Since when Sony said BC is bad?? Jim literally said that PS5 GAMES won't run on PS4, he never said PS4 games won't run on ps5, it has nothing to do with BC. What the fuck are these guys drinking??


“When we’ve dabbled with backwards compatibility, I can say it is one of those features that is much requested, but not actually used much,” said Ryan.

“That, and I was at a Gran Turismo event recently where they had PS1, PS2, PS3 and PS4 games, and the PS1 and the PS2 games, they looked ancient, like why would anybody play this?”

When Sony wasn't supporting it, it wasn't important.. that's how marketers work.

edit: No clue why that dude is saying that right now though as Sony is clearly supporting some level of BC this gen... but yeah, Jim was scoffing at it 3 years ago.
 
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When Sony wasn't supporting it, it wasn't important.. that's how marketers work.

edit: No clue why that dude is saying that right now though as Sony is clearly supporting some level of BC this gen... but yeah, Jim was scoffing at it 3 years ago.
He was talking about the cross generation games thing, that's why I edited my post, he never said it's bad, he said ps5 games will not run on PS4, what's wrong with that statement?? He never said it's bad.
 
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i just find it funny how a weak of a marketing response that was to sony's pr. Sony said "we have next gen games" and he went and replied with "yeah well we have bc tho!!".
He literally could've just said "we have next gen experiences as well" because the series x WILL get next gen only titles, but this felt like a rushed playground retort
Wonder how they would respond if Sony announced full BC for PS5 lol
 

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The type of reply you got from their own circle lol

Ok what if someone with an Xbox One wants to play co-op with someone else has Xbox SX? How they are gonna scale that? When the Series X can have 100 enemies on the screen while the Xbox One could only be around 20, how are you gonna scale that? By making the series X 20 too?? Which is again you're holding back your the most powerful hardware.
 

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Since when Sony said it is bad?? Jim literally said that PS5 GAMES won't run on PS4, What the fuck are these guys drinking??

Edit: just to add why bashing Sony instead of asking MS for new games??


To be fair, if some people are ok to buy next gen console to just play upscalled current gen games,, then cool for them and it's their problem.
 

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Ok what if someone with an Xbox One wants to play co-op with someone else has Xbox SX? How they are gonna scale that? When the Series X can have 100 enemies on the screen while the Xbox One could only be around 20, how are you gonna scale that? By making the series X 20 too?? Which is again you're holding back your the most powerful hardware.
They will probably segregate playlist... a lot of games do that.
 
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The type of reply you got from their own circle lol

I get it but like.....then there is no incentive to upgrade if I can play it on an older system, why do I need a new one, and ubisoft already confirmed the inevitable that the series x version is only 4k30
If i buy a new car i want incentive with the newer version and not realize the 2019 model has the same old features as the 2020 one
 

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I get it but like.....then there is no incentive to upgrade if I can play it on an older system, why do I need a new one, and ubisoft already confirmed the inevitable that the series x version is only 4k30
If i buy a new car i want incentive with the newer version and not realize the 2019 model has the same old features as the 2020 one
To be fair that MS talk is just to fool their base until their studios begin to delivery games.
You will see they changing the tone in two years or so to just what Sony is doing right now and when that happens that Jez Liar Corden comments will look really laughable.
 
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To be fair that MS talk is just to fool their base until their studios begin to delivery games.
You will see they changing the tone in two years or so to just what Sony is doing right now and when that happens that Jez Liar Corden comments will look really laughable.
I get that but halo should be a system seller, they would sell more nextgen systems if that was exclusive to series x, like if horizon zero dawn 2 is launch or near launch to ps5 I need a ps5 to play it etc thus incentive 101
 

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You really think mark Cerny would get ripped on in this thread?
As far as the rest I am sure Sony will show at least one or two big games to demonstrate the hardware. That’s what people will remember.
Yeah, I think Mark would get ripped on as well. If you recall, after that first briefing that was the only other "official" playstation reveal, people were pretty harsh on his presentation and presentation skills. So yeah, I think a lot of people would comment on things if he and others were responding similarly.

That being said, you make a valid point. Bottom line, this is marketing and PR from Microsoft. It's simply their style and that style differs from that of Sony. I think mostly people are kind of good naturally poking fun (from what I've seen), but I have no doubt there are those who are the meaner spirited that make their comments as well.
 

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I get that but halo should be a system seller, they would sell more nextgen systems if that was exclusive to series x, like if horizon zero dawn 2 is launch or near launch to ps5 I need a ps5 to play it etc thus incentive 101
But Halo was build as this generation game.
They probably don’t have any game build for next-gen this year... that is why they set the 2 years deadline to have Series X only games.

MS probably though Halo Infinite could launch last year and that is why it is build for this gen.
 
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I know im lttp but what excited me the most recently is the ue5 demo running in real time on a console
Thats the next gen impression i was looking forward and im happy devs are willing to target 1440p/30fps to deliver insane visuals and worlds of great scope.

I was afraid all the marketing towards 4k/60fps would make them shy to push things further
Hey, welcome back! I agree...bottom line what matters is the visual quality and presentation. Whether it's 4k or 2k or whatever...that's less important. Also, most people still have 1080p TV's so I don't think it's NECESSARY to focus on that 4k 60fps mark.
 

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Yeah, I think Mark would get ripped on as well. If you recall, after that first briefing that was the only other "official" playstation reveal, people were pretty harsh on his presentation and presentation skills. So yeah, I think a lot of people would comment on things if he and others were responding similarly.

That being said, you make a valid point. Bottom line, this is marketing and PR from Microsoft. It's simply their style and that style differs from that of Sony. I think mostly people are kind of good naturally poking fun (from what I've seen), but I have no doubt there are those who are the meaner spirited that make their comments as well.
Show me a post of people ripping mark Cerny specifically. By that I don’t mean them complaining about Sony or how it was aimed at developers and not the public etc. Maybe I missed it.
Why the other train destination is so empty in comparison to PS5 destination? Maybe it's going to the wrong destination? :goog_unsure:

Do you really think it is a good idea to start console warring?
 
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Since when Sony said it is bad?? Jim literally said that PS5 GAMES won't run on PS4, What the fuck are these guys drinking??

Edit: just to add why bashing Sony instead of asking MS for new games??


"Why would you advocate for something that is bad for you? Oh right, fanboyism nvm."

I'm sure he's an expert on fanboyism. He really showed us with his article on the PS5 having overheating issues.
 

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But Halo was build as this generation game.
They probably don’t have any game build for next-gen this year... that is why they set the 2 years deadline to have Series X only games.

MS probably though Halo Infinite could launch last year and that is why it is build for this gen.
I don’t know if it got delayed but it has had a rocky development from the sound of it.
In general I am not a fan of most launch games because they are typically rush jobs. Usually don’t see real next gen stuff until a year or two later. Maybe this time will be different for both.
 
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