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Bryank75
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Well, I think E3 was great and worth the money but many would say that companies were gouged for their place at the event.
They could afford it easily but in the context of budgets and what other thibgs they could use the money for.... it may seem like a waste.
Back in 2013 Sony was in a much different place but Kaz actually turned the entire company around, it wasn't all pleasant. Many were made redundant, the laptop business was sold off and mobile phone business was scaled down. I still think mobile should have been sold completely.
But now they have over 30 Billion in cash, at least 10 of that is from PlayStation. It's approaching Oracle, Cisco and Amazon levels of cash on hand. Which is good, reassuring for gamers in their ecosystem anyway.
Bryank75
Banned
That kid... Astrobotwarfare or Alphafoxwarfare runs all those accounts with a PlayStation exclusive followed by PS4 / PS5.Go home Tony you drunk!!!
I think buying insomniac should show fans and owning every wasteful marketing deal should be enough for fans to know they have plenty of money. I'm glad to see another who sees value in E3 after this summer of cluster fuck with out it. It has almost ruined the fun of a new generation launch.
SleepDoctor
Banned
Bryank75
Banned
Gaming would be so dull without the excitement of new generations and E3 and all the things that make it what it is..... that is why a streaming future would kill the entire industry.
I think the 1.4% Epic deal was bullshit too...they could have bought Remedy or iOi easily for that amount.
To buy Kadokawa and therefore From would be just over a billion and I think that is what they should do.... Publish Bloodborne on PC and say, there is your taste and if you want more they will be on PlayStation from now on.
LED Guy?
Banned
Oh wow! That Assassin's Creed gameplay trailer looked and played like trash, sorry guys, but it really does look bad, and I bet this was running on a PC or even Xbox Series X because they wanna show the game at its best and because they have a marketing partnership with Microsoft, but it plays bad.
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DeltaPolarBear
Member
Well of course they could buy it, but that doesn't mean they should. I never suggested they were poor, I just said that they only got some shares of Epic.Sony could buy the entire company almost twice over.....
Sony Cash on Hand 2006-2020 | SNE
Sony cash on hand from 2006 to 2020. Cash on hand can be defined as cash deposits at financial institutions that can immediately be withdrawn at any time, and investments maturing in one year or less that are highly liquid and therefore regarded as cash equivalents and reported with or near cash...www.macrotrends.net
Dunno why people think they are some broke company!
AeneaGames
Member
Well many Xbox fans in this very thread claimed the earth was flat! I could quote so many it's silly, go ahead, you can find them, I'm not gonna prove it to you, that's on you!
See I can make silly claims too
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Actually the new footage looks a lot better than what been going around not the best looking game but definitely looks good and fun I kinda want it now
HawarMiran
Banned
For me it is the most visually appealing AC in a long time. I like the environments and color palette. But animations in combat look bad. Combat was never the best part of AC anyway
yewles1
Member
I'd like to add that the bandwidth gap itself is smaller than previous gen, PS4 Base being 2.6x faster than, X1, X1X being 50% faster than PS4 Pro and now XSX being 25% faster than PS5.Difference in CPU is so meaningless that is not even worth mentioning.
Of course XSX has a higher bandwidth speed because, guess what, it has 1.8 TFLOPS more. More TF, higher bandwidth required. But you're looking at this in the wrong way. Bandwidth speed per TF is very similar to both. Read this posts :
PlayStation 5 System Architecture Deep Dive |OT| Secret Agent Cerny
Bandwidth is expressed as GB/s, or capacity to transfer data over the course of a second. You are then telling me that the number of times a CU will be executing instructions over the course of a second is not a factor in how much bandwidth it will need over that same second. How does that...www.resetera.com
Not so higher in the end, isn't. Mind you that if some game on XSX will use more than 10 GB, RAM speed will drop.
Also, regarding GPU and "allmighty" 1.8 TF more on XSX, higher speed clock GPU in PS5 has some advantages, and here they are :
Microsoft: We Could Have Used Variable Clocks for Xbox Series X, But We’re Not Interested in “trying to 'hunt' down certain record numbers”
Not always. I remember some indie dev thinking Lockhart was not real because he has not seen the profile for it.
Whilst I'm here, I might as well post the rest. It's important to note all the below are theoretical maximums, including whether the clocks are fixed or not:
Extrapolated from RDNA1:
Triangle rasterisation is 4 triangles per cycle.
PS5:
4 x 2.23 GHz ~ 8.92 Billion triangles per second
XSX:
4 x 1.825 GHz - 7.3 Billion triangles per second
Triangle culling rate is twice number triangles rasterised per cycle.
PS5:
8 x 2.23 GHz - 17.84 Billion triangles per second
XSX:
8 x 1.825 GHz - 14.6 Billion triangles per second
Pixel fillrate is with 4 shader arrays with 4 RBs (render backends) each, and each RB outputtting 4 pixels each. So 64 pixels per cycle.
PS5:
64 x 2.23 GHz - 142.72 Billion pixels per second
XSX:
64 x 1.825 GHz - 116.8 Billion pixels per second
Texture fillrate is based on 4 texture units (TMUs) per CU.
PS5:
4 x 36 x 2.23 GHz - 321.12 Billion texels per second
XSX:
4 x 52 x 1.825 GHz - 379.6 Billion texels per second
Raytracing in RDNA2 is alleged to be from modified TMUs.
PS5:
4 x 36 x 2.23 GHz - 321.12 Billion ray intersections per second
XSX:
4 x 52 x 1.825 GHz - 379.6 Billion Ray intersections per second
AeneaGames
Member
But the IPs are not included in this deal tho, it's just the studios...
Tiago07
Member
Only the studios .????? I thought it had "ip deals" too.
So this is not so good I think, the only benefit is the ips, the studios like rocksteady is good but not top tier like other studios (mainly Sony Studios that almost or even all are top tier) .
For MS I think the strategy of buying multiples studios is not so great, the only great thing here is the IP, they have to buy like Sony, only really very good studios like Insonmiac recently and they will probably buy Bluepoint in the future.
ToadMan
Member
Cant believe some wag hasn’t made a thread for it here tbh...
Vroadstar
Member
ToadMan
Member
As far as I know it just the studios not the main IPs (Batman). It would include the Nether-realms IPs though - Mortal Kombat/Injustice - since they own those.
There is a theory that any purchaser would buy the studios and a rider to license the IPs with them though.
The problem “buying” studios is that what you’re really buying are fixed assets like buildings and things like furniture and tech but you’re not buying the most valuable thing which is the people. They’re free to resign when it suits them.
Usually, devs who choose to work in a game studio do so because they don’t want a big corp atmosphere/Image/approach in the work place.
It doesn’t matter if it’s MS or apple or Sony or whoever - If you’re a good engineer, you already chose not to work for those guys so when they come in and buy up the place, the good guys with options leave and only the people who can’t get hired easily elsewhere remain.
Sony have avoided this by having extended second party relationships with their studios before sealing the deal and getting them first party.
Just coming in cold with a check book isn’t a good method to keep the most valuable employees. It’s better for a company to set up a new office and attract the talent that wants to come allowing both sides to choose the best fit.
thurnishaleygw
Member
Not only is Phil everyone's type, he's not into exclusive relationships...
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
It would be anti-climatic if Lockhart turns out to be a digital version of SeX.
Depends on how you want to treat the new studio, from the gameindustry.biz article, it does seem like Microsoft are taking a very light touch in terms of the updating the acquired company culture. I suspect that some HR roles might be lost due to overlap but everything else could be the same.
ZywyPL
Banned
Dunno if it has been posted yet, but here in Poland one of the biggest consumer electronics retailer accidentally put both PS5 and XBX pages online for a minute or two, the links are still available if you google them but redirect you to the main page now, but you can still see the price even from there, both consoles apparently are/will be available for 2499PLN, so around 2k without 23% VAT, which translates to 499$. That's for the base models, the discless PS5 has not been listed yet.
B_Boss
Member
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Deleted member 775630
Unconfirmed Member
He might have jumped the gun and only looked at the PS5 text, and didn't checkout the XSX text because he thought it was differentHe absolutely forgot or chose not to post this bit:
danielJackson
Banned
Good thing that they didn't sell mobile division.
New xperia models are actually one of the best phones now. Some biased reviewers still dislike em for false reasons, but fanboys are fanboys.
Maybe it doesnt make sense im business aspect, but they are really good.
Sony have made tons of mobile innovations before apple/samsung, but dont get credit for them.
Gotta hope that they gain popularity, maybe it leads into portable console some day
Bryank75
Banned
I also had 2 Xperias, they just aren't that popular and mobile is a game of popularity.... I loved mine though.
I agree that they are really well made and had water proof features and other things way before others, I was just speaking from a financial perspective that section loses some money every year (not much but enough to fund a game or two)
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FranXico
Member
Not only that, their mobile division is a lot more open than their mobile business competition. For example, I recently found out that Sony Xperia are the only phones which may be rooted without voiding the warranty (I assume under certain terms, but still).
Imtjnotu
Member
Sony's price and marketing is what is killing them.
Something about Sony's marketing ha been really off the last couple of years
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Deleted member 775630
Unconfirmed Member
Definitely, I expect every console being sold out at launch. Sure there are people that might not have the money to buy one, but still a lot more that have the money
bumleforce
Member
if it was sony doing the WB it would be all praise. It isn't because its microsoft. They have enough studios to combat sony now and if they secure this deal it will put them over the top. In the current economic climate having job security is a big thing especially in the game world. if i knew my company would have freedom to work on what I want it would make me stay more. Hell just as long as I work in a good environment ill stay.
hemo memo
Gold Member
If only he used logic. I mean why would they let you download a digital version when you buy physical? People can trade the same game and get a very digital copy. What Ubisoft did will be the standard. To have the physical disc to play the upgraded version or download the digital upgraded version because the digital version of the game is linked to your account.
ToadMan
Member
This is true and that is an important point.
If the staff don’t really notice the regime change it can work better.
Mr. PlayStation
Member
When do you all think the PS5 teardown video would go live? Mr Cerny said he expects a teardown will follow in the coming months sometime in April at the tech deep dive GDC style presentation.
DeltaPolarBear
Member
I seriously doubt that prices are announced to retailers yet. I have basically started ignoring website leaks when it comes to pricing, because historically they were placeholders. I only care about retail website leaks when it showed unannunced game details.Dunno if it has been posted yet, but here in Poland one of the biggest consumer electronics retailer accidentally put both PS5 and XBX pages online for a minute or two, the links are still available if you google them but redirect you to the main page now, but you can still see the price even from there, both consoles apparently are/will be available for 2499PLN, so around 2k without 23% VAT, which translates to 499$. That's for the base models, the discless PS5 has not been listed yet.
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Knitted Knight
Banned
It's what this thread sorely needs. We all need it honestly.
DeltaPolarBear
Member
Personally I just want conformation of the Lockhart. Whether it exists or doesn't exist. I find it more baffling that so many already assume it was real and even made up their mind what the specs are. I want to be put out of my misery already and get its reveal over with.
Knitted Knight
Banned
10 days from now. Not much wait.
Mr. PlayStation
Member
The PS4 Pro was launched onnovember 10th 2016(I own the launch day model after trading in the launch day OG model) and sony posted the official teardown the following day. don't tell me we've got to wait all the way till end of the year for the teardown
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CrysisFreak
Banned
The PS4 Pro was launched onnovember 10th 2016(I own the launch day model after trading in the launch day OG model) and sony posted the official teardown the following day. don't tell me we've got to wait all the way till end of the year for the teardown
I just want Cerny to do it. His voice, his hands, his knowledge. It would be PURE.
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Deleted member 775630
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah I agree, it was a dumb post and he didn't think it through.
Mr. PlayStation
Member
Tom Warren's tweets have made him look like a professional version of timdog, both act like clowns while one has a shield to cover his buffoonery in the name of Verge.
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
Snowdonhoffen
Member
I've gotta be honest, didn't expect Far Cry 6 to look this good
The dog's cute, it's called Chorizo! best name ever
The dog's cute, it's called Chorizo! best name ever
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Shmunter
Member
That does look good.....what’s the source?I've gotta be honest, didn't expect Far Cry 6 to look this good
Snowdonhoffen
Member
lepermessiah
Member
Getting juicy.
pawel86ck
Banned
Tom looks sharp in his new suit but he definitely needs a different hair. Too much colors.Yup, a clown in a suit.
Indeed, but that's probably PC version running at max details, and on top of that there's always possibility of downgrade in the final game.
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Shmunter
Member
Will this be next gen only? Let’s hope it’s not bullshots.Here it is:
Bonsaibäumchen
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