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Nikkei: PSP2 to sport 3g connectivity, OLED touchscreen
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Opus Angelorum
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TheChillyAcademic said:
Quite simply an AMOLED display unlike any other display technology does not require any form of back-lighting.
This saves on power, gives true levels of black, brilliant contrast and low response times.
H_Prestige
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slider said:
Agreed. Nintendo will be advertising 3D without glasses, Sony will be advertising high resolution and OLED's perfect picture quality.
what do you think will be the resolution of the screen and its size?
my ideal one would be 960 x 544 (4 times the resolution of the psp1) with a screen size of 4.2.
this would result in:
Display size: 3.65" × 2.07" (9.28cm × 5.26cm) = 262.72 PPI
i think a PPI of 262 is really good and everything more is a bit unnecessary. i have an iphone 4 at home and honestly i can't appreciate the 320 PPI if i don't put my face at 3 inches from the screen. at normal viewings, about 5 or 6 inches from the screen, 262 PPI are more than enough in order to have a crystal clear picture. plus if it's really OLED it will be amazing.
my ideal one would be 960 x 544 (4 times the resolution of the psp1) with a screen size of 4.2.
this would result in:
Display size: 3.65" × 2.07" (9.28cm × 5.26cm) = 262.72 PPI
i think a PPI of 262 is really good and everything more is a bit unnecessary. i have an iphone 4 at home and honestly i can't appreciate the 320 PPI if i don't put my face at 3 inches from the screen. at normal viewings, about 5 or 6 inches from the screen, 262 PPI are more than enough in order to have a crystal clear picture. plus if it's really OLED it will be amazing.
H_Prestige
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°°ToMmY°° said:
That's basically what the resolution will be according to the last rumor. Screen is allegedly bigger than 4.5".
AMOLED = active matrix OLED
The other kind is PMOLED (passive matrix) but I don't think anyone produces it due to cost issues.
OLED is just the name of the base technology, just like LCD comes in many different flavors.
webcivilian
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zoku88 said:
How can you have the two different controllers on the same interconnect path? Cache are different than RAM and RAM is different then storage which actually sits on the I/O bus.
There is no way you can have one processor with multiple memory controllers for system RAM of-course.
Edit: I see what you are saying. You have a controller bw FCRAM and LPDDR2. It could work but you adding complexity to the system plus how much is the cost saving?
slider said:
I don't think either will be the USP. These are just features which complement/enhance the USP. The main USP of the PSP2 will be the ability to deliver HD console like experiences on a portable both in terms of graphics (much higher resolution 3D, powerful GPU, great looking screen) and in terms of controls/features (dual analogs, online play over wifi or 3G).
yencid said:
Cluster Bomb Cluster Bomb Cluster Bomb
It's sad that the story of Marcus Rivers is probably the best campaign the PSP has recieved by Sony here.
EDIT: Just saw your edit. That is what I meant.webcivilian said:
The cost saving depends on how much the different types of RAMs cost. If this first type is many times expensive than the second type, and you reduce the size of the first type of RAM and make a bigger 2nd type, you could probably get some pretty good cost savings.
That's why I agreed that that one guy's setup was probably bad, since I don't think it makes sense to have both RAMs, in this case, to be the same size.
EDIT2: I think the controller cost is usually much less than the RAM cost.
jeremy1456 said:
Well Duh, Haters Gonna hate. In truth 3DS could probably be sold for $199.99 and Nintendo would STILL make a small profit. But, it's 249.99 b/c of the "OMG it has 3DZZ!" and the MUCH improved graphics, and b/c its the next entry in the insanely successful/popular DS legacy.
Like Patcher said, Nintendo could have gotten away with selling it for $300 but they opted to appear more consumer friendly by making it only $249.99
TheChillyAcademic said:
The gist is, it's a self-illuminating display tech. So unlike an LCD that needs some sort of back, side, or front lighting, OLED's pixels illuminate themselves when stimulated by electricity. In that way, it's somewhat similar to Plasma, but is extremely thin and light. This allows for fantastic blacks and contrast ratios.
Bizzyb said:
Please don't make a new thread, but saw an article on a french site today where he was bitching they were leaving money on the table and it could of sold for 500 dollars.
All this ignores, of course, the thing is still available for pre-order on Amazon. The May sales on that thing are going to SUCKKKKK.
flamesofchaos said:
Not that much maybe 300$ but anything more and it better have a built in coffee dispenser.
But the whole 3G and touch screen rumors really raises the question on how much this thing actually will cost, people are already complaining about the 3DS price, which I also think is WAY to expensive.
webcivilian
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zoku88 said:
OK I see. It could speed up things.
Dreams-Visions
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before this news, people would have suggested putting OLED on a gaming device would have been absurd because of the cost.8sanders said:
Last time I went to a Sony Style store, they had an AMOLED HDTV on display. it was 12" and was something like $2,000.
I agree that $500 is silly, but $399 wouldn't shock me.
webcivilian
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Chris1964 said:
What did he say then?
H_Prestige
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Dreams-Visions said:
OLED costs don't scale linearly.
Already plenty of mobile OLED's out there. All of Samsung's smartphones have a 4" AMOLED and this year the Galaxy 2 will have even bigger sizes.
''I'm impressed that they had the confidence to charge $249; I think that they're going to regret it. It's going to sell out and they're leaving money on the table. I'm impressed that they're this consumer friendly that really matters. So it's not shareholder friendly, but consumers are going to love the $249 price point. So $249 is a bargain, and I think this thing is going to be on eBay for $500 immediately''webcivilian said:
Chris1964 said:
http://translate.google.com/transla...39511_la-3ds-pas-assez-cher-pour-pachter.html
Okay. Not sure what's speculation and what isn't. But he may/may not still be beating that 500 dollar non-sense.
EDIT: Okay, your translation is much better than translation age. But I still don't buy the 500 dollars on ebay. And neither do speculators. If they did, they'd be creating tons of accounts and amazon would be sold out by now.
TheChillyAcademic said:
LCD screen has a grid of liquid crystal pixels - bit like your digital watch, only tiny. They are basically little tiny windows that let light through when open, or block it when closed (and shades of grey in between).
Behind that LCD grid you have a backlight. In front of the LCD you have Red/Green/Blue filters (think candy wrappers), so that when the light comes through the LCD windows, it appears as R/G/B. Mix those RGB values in different amounts to get different colours. Full R/B/G mixed up makes it appear white. Each actual pixel on screen is made up of three sub-pixels, one each of Red, Green and blue.
OLED is like a bunch of little LED lightbulbs arranged in a grid. Three subpixels R/G/B grouped together to make one pixel. Same mixing arrangement as LCD. The main difference is that with OLED there is no backlight, no filters, and no window opening and shutting. each subpixel is like a little LED lightbulb, so it just lights up directly.
This makes it thinner (less bits to put together), faster response - LEDs light up much quicker than an LCD getting darker/lighter, and give better contrast - when the lights are off, its completely black. When LCDs are off, some light from behind can still leak through so its not perfectly black.
OLED isn't a USP. Try selling that to your mum compared to 'hey 3D with no stupid glasses'. Tech geeks understand it but thats about all.
960x540 (quarter full HD) is more than enough. Slightly lower ppi than iphone 4 but maybe you'll hold it further away (arms length?) so angular resolution will be comparable
BTW, were people bitching about ppi before Apple suddenly invented retina? Weren't we fine with things? And now we can't live without invisible pixels...
960x540 (quarter full HD) is more than enough. Slightly lower ppi than iphone 4 but maybe you'll hold it further away (arms length?) so angular resolution will be comparable
BTW, were people bitching about ppi before Apple suddenly invented retina? Weren't we fine with things? And now we can't live without invisible pixels...
Chris1964 said:
Yeah. I edited when I saw your update. I still don't think for a second this is going to play out like he thinks. And as someone who made easy money on the PS3 launch, I'm not buying a single one for ebay. Even though it's easy as pie to get them on amazon right now.
webcivilian
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Chris1964 said:
Yeah eBay price is not a scale of some product's MSRP. Its perceived value for a time being say the launch period when there are low amount of hardware available. I'm not even sure if its going to go for $500 on eBay as it launching on non-holiday month.
Dreams-Visions
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oh right. I forgot about that.H_Prestige said:
$349 launch. my final offer. lol
Relaxed Muscle
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webcivilian said:
The thing is that even for 300$ there's going to be enough demand to drain all 3DS in the world.There's not enough offer to fill the demand, that's why Nintendo is leaving money in the table, they could charge more and have sold outs all over the place.Of course it's also a very shortcoming strategy, since it will leave a even big open hole for competition, but seems Patcher is likely adressing those issues from an investor point he dosn't care Nintendo could loss leadership in the portable gaming.
Eteric Rice
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Relaxed Muscle said:
It would also cause bad press.
duckroll said:
Yeah, you're right. USP wasn't the term I should've used.
And whilst your analysis of a USP is fine, in terms of what I had meant to say... the OLED will be the thing that grabs people's attention. Much in the same way the UI was for the first iPhone and the 3D seems likely to be for the 3DS.
Sorry, confusion all round caused by my dog's ear bleeding and me not paying attention. He's all patched up now if anyone's wondering. : )
Takao said:
what's sad is your opinion on the matter...
I loved those ads with that dude, and judging from the comments section, so did alot of other people.
Marcus on the other hand. Yeah first time they showed him at E3, shit was horrible and I knew it was only going to get worse.
The biggest failure of the OG PSP, was the lack of internal promotion/support from Sony during its intial 2-years (post launch). If Sony can re-correct this core issue with the PSP-2, than I have no doubt it will reclaim the handheld-gaming throne.
Still, I'll be sticking with my Allah-Phone-4 for now.
Still, I'll be sticking with my Allah-Phone-4 for now.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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Advertising-wise, Marcus was a giant mis-step and a bad interpretation of what made the Kevin Butler ads so successful (HINT: It was Kevin Butler). I hope Sony handles the PSP2 advertising a lot better than they have for the entire length of the PSP's life.
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