Calamari41
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It's just trolling. Exactly like a couple of E3s ago when posters were pretending that they didn't know whether the Wii U was a new console or just a Wii add-on.
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Nintendo ditches main E3 conference, still there with games, press events, N-Direct
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It's just trolling. Exactly like a couple of E3s ago when posters were pretending that they didn't know whether the Wii U was a new console or just a Wii add-on.
I get that. It doesn't change the negative perception created by canceling the normal conference, and it doesnt help the articles being written today.
Can't say I blame them Nintendo will be over shadowed this year because the other two will be showing off new hardware.
Nintendo Direct has been doing pretty well also.
That wasn't trolling it was genuine confusion.
Nintendo Direct has been doing pretty well also.
That wasn't trolling it was genuine confusion.
It's gonna be the same, just a different format and with less fluff. You can bet your ass that whilst the Directs are occurring, every journo worth his salt at E3 is gonna be glued to their laptop.
Are you kidding? That wasn't trolling. People are still confused today!
/cross posting from the other thread
It's really simple. By canceling the normal press conference, the implication is that they don't have content worth announcing at a normal press conference.
It doesn't matter if they do or not. The perception will be negative.
Zen_Arcade
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If its so important don't you think Sony and Microsoft would have waited to reveal their brand new consoles there?
Zoramon089
Banned
When people are asking how the press will report what Nintendo has at E3 when the thread title says "press events" that's trolling. Either you posted in a thread without reading the title or you posted without reading the original post...take your pick
Well not really, revealing it at your own show means you get 100% media focus.
Even though Sony and MS will have announced their consoles before E3 their conferences will still be centred around the new consoles.
Where did I mention the title of this thread or the content of the first post, I was replying to a post that made a statement about trolling and the previous E3 which was not true.
Calamari41
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Come on. Everybody posting in that live thread knew that the Wii U was a new console. Nintendo had pictures and press releases the day before the conference even began that were pored over by this forum, if I recall. Are you also suggesting that there are NeoGAF posters who, today, think the Wii U is an add-on?
Lol
BurnOutBrighter
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Wuthering_Heights
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Fauxtaku ‏@Fauxtaku 7m
If Nintendo's not at E3, I am concerned that nobody will be there to peddle stuff we've already played the last two decades. Oh wait.
Man, I love Fauxtaku.
If Nintendo's not at E3, I am concerned that nobody will be there to peddle stuff we've already played the last two decades. Oh wait.
Man, I love Fauxtaku.
Calamari41
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I'm talking about GAF posters
And I'm stating that you would have to either be brain damaged or trolling to be an active member of these forums at that time and not know that Nintendo was unveiling a new console. Normal consumers are definitely confused now, but that has nothing to do with what we're talking about.
The same way you would have to either be brain damaged or trolling to read this thread title and be more than 40 pages into it and still think that Nintendo is skipping E3 entirely, or cutting out the press.
I'm not suggesting anything, I'm stating the following as fact. There were GAFfers who were generally confused back then, and there are still normal consumers confused now.
Psycho_Mantis
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Nintendo why not both?
They just ended an era of tradition
If they did this thinking they would not get compared to the PS4/720 as much or won't be overshadowed they will be sorely mistaken. It is only natural for gamers to be most excited about next gen hardware especially when third parties are making the jump too.
Great post that was missed by many. You cannot seriously think Nintendo directs reach more people than E3.
I doubt ND have more than 1 million people watching their stream. The last one I watched had 80 000 but that was a small one I think and a long time ago.
They just ended an era of tradition
If they did this thinking they would not get compared to the PS4/720 as much or won't be overshadowed they will be sorely mistaken. It is only natural for gamers to be most excited about next gen hardware especially when third parties are making the jump too.
Great post that was missed by many. You cannot seriously think Nintendo directs reach more people than E3.
I doubt ND have more than 1 million people watching their stream. The last one I watched had 80 000 but that was a small one I think and a long time ago.
Gonzo The Great
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But Nintendo is attending E3, so what a failed attempt at being funny.
Zoramon089
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Nintendo why not both?
They just ended an era of tradition
If they did this thinking they would not get compared to the PS4/720 as much or won't be overshadowed they will be sorely mistaken. It is only natural for gamers to be most excited about next gen hardware especially when third parties are making the jump too.
Great post that was missed by many. You cannot seriously think Nintendo directs reach more people than E3.
I doubt ND have more than 1 million people watching their stream. The last one I watched had 80 000 but that was a small one I think and a long time ago.
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/10/29/between-600000-to-1-million-people-watch-nintendo-direct-videos-in-a-week/
And during E3, where it's going to be announced well in advance and hyped, the number of viewers will be just as large
Zen_Arcade
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And that's exactly why Nintendo is doing this. If E3 was such a necessity and was so important Sony wouldn't have even thought about announcing anything early out of fear of killing hype.
So if revealing the PS4 at a seperate event didn't kill the hype for PS4, then why are we pretending that all of the sudden it will kill the hype for all of these Wii U games? The press is still going to get hands on with everything at E3 and give us their impressions like they usually would, the only difference is we wont be finding out what the games are the same day we get the hands on coverage.
This is a really poor comparison. Sony is still having their normal E3 press conference. Had they cancelled it in favor of something else, you'd have a point.
peaceiscloser
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I would love if one of the Nintendo Directs was held with an audience like the E3 conferences. There's nothing quite like the audience's reaction to new announcements -- on both sides of the spectrum.
Remember the utter ecstasy that was the Smash Bros. Brawl unveiling (even though we knew it was coming) and hearing the audience just made it a lot better.
Remember the utter ecstasy that was the Smash Bros. Brawl unveiling (even though we knew it was coming) and hearing the audience just made it a lot better.
Lord_Byron28
Member
Lol. That's a wrap. I understand the idea of being in a giant theatre is a bit more exciting but I think having a Direct that cuts out the press and investor aspect that plagues many E3 press conferences including Nintendo is better.
Zen_Arcade
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It doesn't matter. Are you any less hyped for anything you saw at the PS4 conference because it wasn't announced at the spectacle that is E3? Probably not. All the Sony conference is going to do reguarding those games is showing hands on gameplay and announce release dates....which is probably exactly what will happen with all of the Wii U games at E3.
So if Sony announces/shows new games
outside of E3 it doesn't kill any hype but for some reason if Nintendo does it nobody will care?
The PS4 conference and Nintendo Directs are just companies realizing that they don't need E3 as much as they used to.
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
Because it's Nintendo, dummy.
All I'm saying is that canceling the E3 conference has created a negative perception. The reality of how much content they announce and how many Directs they have is irrelevant.
PR is all about sending a message and canceling the conference sends a message.
EDIT: just so we're all clear, I'm not necessarily saying canceling is a bad idea. It might be, it might not, but either way it's an obvious perception problem.
Schnozberry
Member
Exactly. Nintendo is going to have separate boring ass events for investors and the press. They will release Nintendo Directs to convey the information they want to convey to consumers. I can't comprehend how that is a bad thing, unless you're the type that lives vicariously through the success of your favorite companies E3 Press Conference, which presents far more questions about that person than it does Nintendo.
Schnozberry
Member
You can't cancel a conference that was never planned.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
It's not bad things but it wouldn't be same without live audiences screaming out of hypeness. (Mainly I was looking forward to see how people reacted to SSB4.)
Elwood Blues
Member
They had a live audience last year and there was definitely no screaming out of hypeness.
Schnozberry
Member
I guess you'll have to replace that with the hype train on GAF.
I am, it's the first.
It was still expected though.
Nintendo Direct has become the new E3. Every E3 the media either misinterprets Nintendo or rips into them. Sometimes that's Nintendo's fault (E3 2008, 2011, 2012) but sometimes its the media wanting clicks.
This is Nintendo's final salvo of the "fuck the journalists, we are going straight to the fans" strategy. They can control the message, content, and the way they want their info to be interpreted instead of the media spinning it.
This is Nintendo's final salvo of the "fuck the journalists, we are going straight to the fans" strategy. They can control the message, content, and the way they want their info to be interpreted instead of the media spinning it.
My only issue with this is that we probably won't get megatons in the same ND. At E3, we were hit with megaton after megaton. Whether the megaton was disappointing or not is another question, but you get what I'm saying. It seems like these ND will be specific for individual games rather than just a single unveiling of multiple games.
The safer bet is the former.
But they didn't cancel it, they never reserved a room for their big conference, If Nintendo announced a time and date for their conference and than cancelled it than yeah it would look really bad.
Your still going to get that from GAF and Youtube videos.
NOPE. Just games and release dates.
The "perception problem" is people who only read the titles of press articles. Not Nintendo's fault people jump to conclusions without reviewing all presented information.
Also, as a sidenote unrelated to your comment, Tobor... I thought responding to thread without reading the titles was a very bad thing.
Zen_Arcade
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They aren't cancelling the conference. They're having a new kind of conference set up in which instead of having some hour long on stage presentation with a mixture of sales numbers/unnecessary celebrity appearances/games they're going to set up three separate events each tailored to get the right information in the hands who people who want it.
-A business conference with sales numbers.
-A hands on media specific meeting.
-And Nintendo Directs for people at home to get information out to people that aren't at E3.
I don't know why this is so hard to understand. The same information is going to get out there with this set up. We still get to see new games, the media still gets to tell us their impressions on said games, and investors will get all the business information they would usually get.
The only difference is that we don't have to sit through the boring parts we don't care about and constantly complain about every year.
Psycho_Mantis
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http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/06/15/spike-tv-and-gametrailers-com-score-big-with-record-breaking-viewership-during-the-2011-electronic-entertainment-expo-e3/95673/
Again this years E3 will have two new Gaming consoles so the viewership will be even higher. I cannot believe your trying to argue more people watch Nintendo Directs than E3 conferences.
E3 is still the biggest gaming event of the year.
What they've shown in the last couple of Directs has been better than their last couple E3 conferences.
For me it's all about the content and not the "presence" or whatever.
Publishers, manufacturers tried to get rid of E3 since years (and the anger was at its climax right after Nintendo ate everyone's dinner in 2006). They failed twice (2007, 2008) and tried to get back to the old formula without the same success (see 2012). Then they see other ways of building hype like Apple, Samsung, Google which are holding their own punctual events and they're followed by thousands of journalists for their own and personal quarter of fame. Then Sony has seen the hype they built with PS4 announcement, MS is trying the same with the announcement of NextBox. Nintendo is doing the first step about downplaying E3 conference dominance, let's see if it goes bad word of mouth of if it changes the rules of the game. If it fails, I think they'll go back to the old formula.
So a Nintendo Direct the length of an E3 conference.. Fuck they'll demo the shit out of the games. 30 minutes of that needs to be used for nothing but X
We all know they have one every year. There is an expectation of a conference and it is not being met. You can replace the word cancelled with whatever you like. The sentiment is the same.
Zen_Arcade
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What makes you think Wii U still wont be getting coverage all throughout E3? They're still going to be there, they're still going to have hands on impressions. The only difference is they wont have an hour long conference.
grimshawish
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...people realise that Nintendo's conference will just be other stuff?
Its still going to be Nintendo's section?
The big hall isn't magical. Thats not what people tune in to see.
Its still going to be Nintendo's section?
The big hall isn't magical. Thats not what people tune in to see.
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