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Nintendo Financial Results Briefing [GfK, NPD, etc.]

Jun 7, 2007
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A lot of interesting stuff:

Yearly Portable Hardware Sales in US, Europe
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p05.gif
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p06.gif

Yearly Portable Software Sales in US, Europe
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p07.gif
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p09.gif

Yearly Home Console Hardware Sales in US, Europe
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p11.gif
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p12.gif

Yearly Home Console Software Sales in US, Europe
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p13.gif
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p14.gif

Yearly Software Sales in US by Platform, Company
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p15.gif
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p16.gif

Yearly Software Sales in Europe by Platform, Company
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p18.gif
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p19.gif

Weekly Home Console & Portable Hardware Sales in US
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http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p24.gif

Weekly Home Console & Portable Hardware Sales in Europe
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p25.gif
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p26.gif

Sales Transitions of Nintendogs, Brain Training, More Brain Training, Wii Fit
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p28.gif
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p29.gif
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http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p32.gif

Cumulative Monthly Software Sales in US (Total, Third-Party, First-Party)
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http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p35.gif
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p36.gif

Total Hardware Sales by Region (GC/GBA, PS2/PS3, Wii/DS)
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p45.gif
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p46.gif
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p47.gif
sources:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/index.html
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/index.html
 

Stumpokapow

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of note from the supplemental data release:
- wander donkey not on 2009 ds release list. shitcanned? (edit: removed kirby, it is on the list)
- mario tennis and pikmin gcn->wii ports confirmed for us
- valkyrie profile ds confirmed for us.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
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Stumpokapow said:
of note from the supplemental data release:
- kirby not on 2009 wii release list, wander donkey not on 2009 ds release list. shitcanned?



http://kotaku.com/5071872/the-great-2009-nintendo-release-schedule
 

schuelma

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Stumpokapow said:
well that's what i get for reading a list reported second-hand instead of clicking on the pdf myself. consider me ashamed. i'll put myself in a 30 minute time out in the corner.


I still think you may be on to something. Wasn't Kirby in the 08 financial reports all last year as well?
 

Jammy

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Huge numbers for the big three (SSBB, Wii Fit, Mario Kart Wii)... with Nintendogs and other DS games just reaching for 15 million and beyond.
 
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It's time to count some pixels. xD


Europe Hardware:



Chart Track / Elspa = UK
GfK = France
Media Control = Germany
AC Nielsen = Spain

1 pixel = 71,428


2008 Europe Hardware Jan. - Sep.:
Wii = 48 pixels = 3,428,571
PS3 = 21 pixels = 1,500,000
360 = 14 pixels = 1,000,000
PS2 = 06 pixels = 428,571
 

cw_sasuke

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Captain Smoker said:
It's time to count some pixels. xD

1 pixel = 71,428


2008 Europe Hardware Jan. - Sep.:
Wii = 48 pixels = 3,428,571
PS3 = 21 pixels = 1,500,000
360 = 14 pixels = 1,000,000
PS2 = 06 pixels = 428,571

Awesome *haha* *goodwork*
Poor 360 Sales :eek:
Ps2 is also slowly dying ....
 

yankee666

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Will the Cube wimakes gonna have some wiimote implementation or they only will repack as wii games (easy money)?? Ill love to see Mario tennis wiimote edition, but much more a REAL Mario Tennis wii.
 

cw_sasuke

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yankee666 said:
Will the Cube wimakes gonna have some wiimote implementation or they only will repack as wii games (easy money)?? Ill love to see Mario tennis wiimote edition, but much more a REAL Mario Tennis wii.

There will be wiimote implementation. Pikmin 1+2 should be even more awesome with Wii Controls.
 

Psychotext

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Captain Smoker said:
2008 Europe Hardware Jan. - Sep.:
Wii = 48 pixels = 3,428,571
PS3 = 21 pixels = 1,500,000
360 = 14 pixels = 1,000,000
PS2 = 06 pixels = 428,571
Wii is an utter beast... ludicrous. :lol
 

yankee666

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cw_sasuke said:
There will be wiimote implementation. Pikmin 1+2 should be even more awesome with Wii Controls.


YEahhh, those game plus Metroid prime 1+2 gonna be amazing with the wiimote!!!
 

Michan

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Sony marketing friendly statistics below (using 1 pixel = 71,428.57 units).

USA 2007 (Jan 1 - Sep 30):

Wii: 3,392,857 (37.3% share)
360: 2,250,000 (24.7% share)
PS2: 2,142,857 (23.5% share)
PS3: 1,142,857 (12.5% share)
GCN: 178,571 (2% share)
All: 9,107,142


USA 2008 (Jan 1 - Sep 30):

Wii: 5,107,143 +50.5% (45.8% share)
PS3: 2,214,286 +93.8% (19.9% share)
360: 2,107,143 -6.35% (18.9% share)
PS2: 1,678,571 -21.7% (15.1% share)
GCN: 35,714 -80% (0.3% share)
All: 11,142,857

+22.4% year-on-year growth for USA hardware
 

Psychotext

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Actually... that's a fairly good way of testing the pixel theory because we have released NPD data to cover those periods.

USA 2008 (Jan - Aug Inclusive NPD):

Wii: 4,491,000
PS3: 2,018,400
360: 1,741,000

Are we sure it's not to the end of September which would give us:

USA 2008 (Jan - Sep Inclusive NPD):

Wii: 5,178,000
PS3: 2,250,800
360: 2,088,200

[Edit - It must be... which means that the pixel theory is pretty accurate]
 

Michan

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Psychotext said:
Actually... that's a fairly good way of testing the pixel theory because we have NPD data to cover those periods.

USA 2008 (Jan - Aug Inclusive NPD):

Wii: 4,491,000
PS3: 2,018,400
360: 1,741,000

Are we sure it's not to the end of September which would give us:

USA 2008 (Jan - Sep Inclusive NPD):

Wii: 5,178,000
PS3: 2,250,800
360: 2,088,200

[Edit - It must be... which means that the pixel theory is pretty accurate]

Looks like we're on to something!
 

Michan

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Pureauthor said:
Guys, are you even aware of how the pixel theory came about?
I seem to remember counting pixels long before Captain Smoker's contribution to this thread (with my Mario charts, etc), but if you'd like to speak about the origins of this dark art, then go right ahead.
 

manueldelalas

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So, do we have world wide numbers? (graphs)

I would like to know what is the gap between Wii and HD consoles =P.
 

Parl

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Good news for Nintendo: Or how Wii and DS are #1 and #2 in hardware and software in US and Other


DS creams PSP in Europe.


Wii software sales defeat 360 and PS3 software sales in US.


Wii and DS the software kings in US. More evidence that the top 10 NPD are useless to guesstimate relative total software sales.


Wii and DS software account for more than half of total software market in Europe. Sonyland is no more.


Wii and DS software sales reaching the half way mark of total US software market.


DS #1, Wii #2 in Europe.



Wii strongest platform for third parties for US at respective points since launch.


First party sales strongest in Wii in US (ultra-obvious one).


Add them together, Wii the clear software winner in US, launches aligned.


Additionally:

Global million sellers:
DS: 69 (39 third party million sellers)
Wii: 36 (21 third party million sellers)


Bad news for Nintendo: Japanese market

DS increases its installed base at a slower rate this year in Japan.


Still on par with previous precedent though.



Good news for Nintendo:

 
Jun 7, 2007
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manueldelalas said:
So, do we have world wide numbers? (graphs)

I would like to know what is the gap between Wii and HD consoles =P.
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p45.gif
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p46.gif
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/505df43b35/image/p47.gif

WII = 29.800.000
360 = 16.000.000 - 17.000.000
PS3 = 12.600.000

29.800.000 > 28.600.000 - 29.600.000


But that's without Canada, Australia, Russia, Korea and the Rest of the World.
 

Shiggy

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Concerning Europe, if I see it correctly, the Nintendo has sold around a million more Wii consoles if you count the sales of both competitors together.
 

fabprems

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Captain Smoker said:
Thx. :)

Here are the pics:


Well, the message Nintendo is sending to third party is pretty clear.
"We have plenty of money, so be our guest while we take a rest"
 

DDayton

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yankee666 said:
YEahhh, those game plus Metroid prime 1+2 gonna be amazing with the wiimote!!!

As far as we know, wasn't the plan to release Metroid Prime 1 and 2 -individually- on the Wii?

If they are going to bundle 'em, I'd buy the package immediately.
 
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Thx to BKK2 for the analysis.


Europe, weekly hardware sales analysis:



A: 360: Hardware price cut
B: PS3: GT5:prologue released
C: Wii: Mario Kart Wii released
D: Wii: Wii Fit Released
E: PS3: GTA IV released
E: 360: GTA IV released
F: Wii: Super Smash Bros. Brawl released
G: PS3: 80Gb model released
H: 360: Hardware price cut
H: 360: FIFA 09 released
H: PS3: FIFA 09 released
 

donkey show

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All I needed to see was Wii de Asobu Mario Tennis GC.

If we can't get a decent Wii tennis game aside from Wii Sports, I am all for Mario Power Tennis to have Wii controls. :D
 

Caesar III

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donkey show said:
All I needed to see was Wii de Asobu Mario Tennis GC.

If we can't get a decent Wii tennis game aside from Wii Sports, I am all for Mario Power Tennis to have Wii controls. :D
I haven't realized this. I hope they improve the visuals a bit on Wii. But I would prefer a straight Wii developed version.
 

Shin Johnpv

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Captain Smoker said:


I look at this and go WOW, that's with the absolute shit tripe that third parties have released on the Wii so far. Imagine if they had put some fucking effort into their shit, and released games of the same caliber as what they're doing on the PS360. Third parties really need to wake the fuck up already.
 

DNF

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fabprems said:
Well, the message Nintendo is sending to third party is pretty clear.
"We have plenty of money, so be our guest while we take a rest"

And the message from third-party on wii to Nintendo is also pretty clear.
"Nah Nintendo, we don't like money, so we will just release another 20 Animalzzz and multiplatform-games with shitty graphics and without online features"
 

andthebeatgoeson

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Never finished Pikmin 2 so I'll be looking forward to that with Wiimote controls. Definitely looking forward to Metroid Prime 2 and may even give 1 a replay for the right price.