Just look at that poor line-up ... everyone who purchase day one has to buy Zelda, it's the only ambitious game.
That 100% attach rate isn't a sign that Nintendo can boast about
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Nintendo France sales expectations
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Just look at that poor line-up ... everyone who purchase day one has to buy Zelda, it's the only ambitious game.
That 100% attach rate isn't a sign that Nintendo can boast about
The perfect Dark
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Or people could just wait and don't buy the system. But apparently they want the system.
BoxManLocke
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I don't know how much stock Nintendo has allocated for the Switch in France, but the price was cut by about 30€ for most online retailers, with pretty sweet deals here and there, yet they weren't any shortages anywhere unlike the US and other EU countries.
So either Nintendo is super competent when it comes to demand for that particular market, or maybe that Nintendo guy's estimates are just a little too high.
So either Nintendo is super competent when it comes to demand for that particular market, or maybe that Nintendo guy's estimates are just a little too high.
He says preorders are alligned with Wii figures, so they must be pretty damn good.
Dark Cloud
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Looks like another topic to save. All these prediction threads are full of gold quotes for the future.
I like the confidence. We'll see if it can pretty much do the entire Wii U's life in one year. So far the positivity for this system is far and away better than the Wii U. Marketing has been much better also and the Switch is just a better product compared to the Wii U.
I like the confidence. We'll see if it can pretty much do the entire Wii U's life in one year. So far the positivity for this system is far and away better than the Wii U. Marketing has been much better also and the Switch is just a better product compared to the Wii U.
BoxManLocke
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That'd be more helpful if we had a rough idea of what these numbers were for the Wii. Obviously it was a huge success overall but strictly speaking of preorders, anybody have an idea ?
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I think it could happen. I mean NIntendo has two AAA games and one remake this year alone. I doubt Mario makes it out in the first year, but if it did that would just be icing on the cake.
Depends if he means "in line with wii (preorder) figures" or "in line with wii (first day) figures".
Expecting 95k on day one likely isn't a number they're just pulling from thin air and is based on preorder figures.
I remember wii u struggled to around 40k in the UK when it launched. Hoping Switch does much better than that.
Dark Cloud
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Mario is going to make it out this year. They've said it's almost finished.
Chû Totoro
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That's really really ambitious IMO but Splatoon, MK and Mario could help reach quite big levels this year alone.
He has way more information than us but even with the best case scenario I think it won't be that easy (maybe they have a few big games to present during E3 that'll be here in Q4).
Will see, did my part ^^
He has way more information than us but even with the best case scenario I think it won't be that easy (maybe they have a few big games to present during E3 that'll be here in Q4).
Will see, did my part ^^
Spiral Insanity
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I still doubt it. Maybe a delay until January?
BoxManLocke
Member
Thanks, sorry I missed that.
This is gonna be a fun thing to monitor anyway. I think the 3DS still being around will impact the Switch a fair amount here. The thing is a monster and is selling exceptionally well. I've done my part, got three of those.
Dark Cloud
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Why would you doubt it? It's going to be playable at E3. Bruh it's coming out this November. Save this post. Nintendo is spreading their games out and Mario is a holiday title.
Spiral Insanity
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Due to precedent, I'd love to be wrong though!
That's my point. They take the Wii as an example or a sales target, but they don't talk about Wii Sports role in the Wii early success. And of course they don't because Switch doesn't have a similar game.
And yet if you're not interested in Zelda, there is no point to spend $300 (more than that really) until when? Splatoon 2 likely. All the games you listed have their place in the year 1 line-up, but still, I think there's a risk it's not wide enough to maintain momentum after June (if Splatoon doesn't release there).
You're taking it the wrong way. That was my point too.
TP already showed that and BotW is on the same track: Zelda fans and gamers interested in Zelda are getting the game and the console at launch if they can afford it.
After a short while Zelda's impact on hardware sales will be minimal.
Not only they seems to forget that, but see my answer to Marco, the variety in the initial line-up is null. Far from Wii's offering.
And yeah I'm forcing my way here because I only consider retail 1st party games when it comes to drive Nintendo hardware sales. But I don't want to drag this any longer for the moment
Aaron Strife
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Drop Pokémon Stars and/or Smash in Q4 and that seems attainable.
One of those could probably be shunted into Q1 2018 and that wouldn't be much of an issue.
3D Mario in addition to the other of those games should put sales through the roof.
One of those could probably be shunted into Q1 2018 and that wouldn't be much of an issue.
3D Mario in addition to the other of those games should put sales through the roof.
Cert.in.Death
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Ambitious, but I'm still of the mind that sticker price is gonna hurt this thing after its initial launch wave. I expect there will be challenges as well in overcoming comparisons with other systems with the likes of Arms and 1,2 Switch running next to Mass Effect, Horizon, and others.
I agree. I'm living in France and I feel like it'll need to wait for some special offers to take off.
It also needs the 3ds to disappear.
Hope I'm wrong, because I mostly checked the water when it was still 349€.
Maybe now that it's 299...
Anyway I preordered it so it's 800 000 minus 1. 799 999 to go.
Dark Cloud
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Super Mario 3D World was announced at E3 2013 and released that November.
This game was announced in January. January to November is 11 months. Come on join my side lol 😈
Also: when was the last time a mainline MARIO game was delayed. People sometimes claim mario sunshine was because it was the long rumoured Mario64-2, but from announcement to release it was on time. Announced sept 2001 - released summer 2002.
Rumours say they actually delayed the launch of the Nintendo 64 until Mario 64 was ready. (well, not really rumours - I think nintendo actually said they delayed Ultra64 from 1995 to 1996 because the software wasn't ready)
That would be about the same amount they sold in 2015 (685 000) - quite crazy. I imagine they think pokemon stars, fire emblem en yukai watch (which is quite big in france) will push this? He must see good numbers for the first few months of 2017 to predict that.
700k 3DS? Well that explains why Nintendo are pushing switch as a home console and avoiding treading on the toes of the 3DS. That's a surprising number with such a relatively light release calendar. Wonder if they are anticipating a price drop?
You as usual.
KratosEnergyDrink
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It's the most ambitious launch game since many console generations.
Mario Kart Deluxe a few weeks later following by Arms, Mario Odyssey, Skyrim, Splatoon2. Games like Fast RMX in between. When reaching the holidays the line-up is probably better than for any other Nintendo console before in the first 8 month.
Ok, that made me laugh hahahaha
That is not true? All the data I have is that Germany is a bigger market than France.
It's probably not counting PC, because in that case i can see the UK and France being bigger markets than Germany
Herb Alpert
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I'd say it's normal given the perceived quality of the game.
Otherwise people just wouldn't buy the console now.
Germany is the biggest European video game market.
... Which maintains the attach rate of 100%. Still, if Zelda wasn't very good, then the Switch likely wouldn't sell out as quick as it does (although that is not a given).
kraspkibble
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give us Pokemon and i'll believe it.
The other half is countries like Greece where they don't sendNo wonder when half of Europe is ordering at Amazon.fr
Those aren't pre-order numbers. Saying "in line with Wii" is essentially meaningless.
Yeah, Nintendo will have some of the big hitters out in their first 12 months. It's actually quite crazy:
Zelda
Mario Kart
3D Mario
Splatoon
Xenoblade
Pokemon (?)
Smash Brothers (?)
People often talk about Nintendo fans like they are one big bunch, but it's ofcourse also segmented with fans of particular franchises and a lot of those will release in the first year, even if they are only as ports (of Wii U, it would still be "new" game experiences for handheld only nintendo fans).
PdotMichael
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Well, Nintendo has a history of being great at reading the market and providing correct estimates in the past years.
He talks about 95k consoles day one. It seems on par with Wii figures.
Can't wait for Switch to sell 105 millions consoles LTD!!! !!111!!!11!!!
Dark Cloud
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I'm thinking it will too. How much is good? 200K?
We don't know if "Zelda is very good". The marketing for it has been on point, the game sure looks good and the promise of the adventure as advertised is what get people interested (mostly gamers though)
I added a few détails. I understand they didn't reach the market they had with the Wii U but don't overestimate the "craziness", it'll be use for PR purposed but it has to be nuanced with the reality of the facts.
Yeah, the marketing stuff and initial impressions was what I meant, I didn't word it accurately.
Dark Cloud
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This is literally a Gamefaqs post. Splatoon 2 is an enhanced port? Go away troll.