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Nintendo of America files "reapplication" for Eternal Darkness trademark

Macka

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I wouldn't mind Retro doing this? Although then going forward they'd be torn in three different directions with Metroid, Donkey Kong and Eternal Darkness...so maybe this isn't a good idea.

HD remaster would be cool too.
 

dancrane212

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I'd be happy for more folk to get their hands on this game with a remaster, first time playing it a couple years ago and I loved it. The GameCube game still holds up very well on modern TVs with native 16x9 support, 480p and 60fps.

As much as I understand why it didn't get the needed support I'm still bummed Shadows of the Eternals never managed to get funded. Maybe Nintendo can pick up the slack and make an ED sequel instead.
 

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There is simply not demand nor anticipation for a new Eternal Darkness. Its spiritual successor has been on Kickstarter twice, the second time with a very reasonable goal. Did not even scratch it.

Ok, there was Dyack and Silicon Knights and so on, not properly the most lovable people around as far as feedback goes... and yet, the game failed.

It makes no sense to develop a new Eternal Darkness.
 

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Yeah, this is just Nintendo holding onto an IP. Basically all companies do this and prefer to hold onto them "just in case" if nothing else.

It only make sense if maybe they'll do a VC release, but nothing more than that.

There's no way Nintendo would fund a sequel. They probably saw how Shadow of the Eternals kickstarter failed and that was enough to tell them there's not enough interest.

It's just extremely unlikely that Nintendo would fund such a game. Even the original sadly did not sell well. And after the dismal sales of Bayonetta 2 and such, I doubt Nintendo would want to risk investing in a sequel that has no guarantee of success.
 

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There is simply not demand nor anticipation for a new Eternal Darkness. Its spiritual successor has been on Kickstarter twice, the second time with a very reasonable goal. Did not even scratch it.

Ok, there was Dyack and Silicon Knights and so on, not properly the most lovable people around as far as feedback goes... and yet, the game failed.

It makes no sense to develop a new Eternal Darkness.
They can just hire del Toro & Kojima to make it.
 

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Yeah, this is just Nintendo holding onto an IP. Basically all companies do this and prefer to hold onto them "just in case" if nothing else.

It only make sense if maybe they'll do a VC release, but nothing more than that.

There's no way Nintendo would fund a sequel. They probably saw how Shadow of the Eternals kickstarter failed and that was enough to tell them there's not enough interest.

It's just extremely unlikely that Nintendo would fund such a game. Even the original sadly did not sell well. And after the dismal sales of Bayonetta 2 and such, I doubt Nintendo would want to risk investing in a sequel that has no guarantee of success.
Sigh :'( Unfortunate but true.
 

Verger

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Sigh :'( Unfortunate but true.
Believe me I wish it weren't true. I just remember Denis saying that the reason SK even left Nintendo to begin with was because both Eternal Darkness and Metal Gear: Twin Snakes just sold terribly and Nintendo was not going to give SK a chance to make anymore games like that on the Wii (since the Wii's core audience and focus turned out to be much different than the Gamecube's). So when Microsoft offered to not only fund Too Human but expand it into a Trilogy, it was a no-brainer to part with Nintendo at the time.

It's been what, about 12 years since the original's release and Nintendo has never even gave much lip service or callbacks to the game at all. Their determination to hold onto the IP for me just seems again like a company covering its bases and keeping it just in case.

Again, the only way I could see them using it is if they should decide to re-release the original on the VC. But given how slow Nintendo is with VC games I'm not sure I see that happening. Just like funding a sequel, which would be a huge investment, seems far-fetched given the current climate at Nintendo with sales of "M-rated" games falling very flat on the Wii U.

Heck, only way I see the ED trademark ever being used is if Nintendo does eventually lose the TM and Dyack snatches it up to rebrand SotE.
 

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As much as I understand why it didn't get the needed support I'm still bummed Shadows of the Eternals never managed to get funded. Maybe Nintendo can pick up the slack and make an ED sequel instead.
Actually, according to the rumors, there were talks between SK and Nintendo way before the Kickstarter campaign. When SK lost their lawsuit against epic and it became clear they were finished, Nintendo backed out of the deal and their only resort was to do the kickstarter campaign. Which failed. Twice.
 

foxuzamaki

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There is simply not demand nor anticipation for a new Eternal Darkness. Its spiritual successor has been on Kickstarter twice, the second time with a very reasonable goal. Did not even scratch it.

Ok, there was Dyack and Silicon Knights and so on, not properly the most lovable people around as far as feedback goes... and yet, the game failed.

It makes no sense to develop a new Eternal Darkness.
Dennis dyack had no trust among the gamers along with a child pornography Charge against one of his employees and the Kickstarter was destined to fail. There has been demand and anticipatton for this game for a while now.
 

Platy

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I refuse to get my hopes up again.

When will this Eternal Darkness Trademark Madness end?

Probably never; Nintendo owns the rights to the Sanity Meter, and probably don't want to let it go.
To be fair the insanity effects have "kojima" written all over it xD
 
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I refuse to get my hopes up again.

When will this Eternal Darkness Trademark Madness end?

Probably never; Nintendo owns the rights to the Sanity Meter, and probably don't want to let it go.
Woah, they really own the rights to that?

That's actually a terrible shame, since Nintendo will probably never use it anywhere. I'd like to see what others could do with the idea.
Maybe they could *lend* the rights for that for a fatal frame game, since they're Nintendos go to horror series now anyway.
 

Kriken

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The race between The Last Guardian and Eternal Darkness rages on for which will never be seen again
 

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Rösti;95709787 said:
From USPTO's glossary:


It means that if they want this trademark, they have to in one way or another within 36 months come up with a game related to Eternal Darkness.

And what Dascu wrote.
I really hope this is what Retro is currently working on.
 

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I tried... I tried to tell them... But they wouldn’t listen to me... Damn them! Damn their eyes! They didn’t believe me. Strange creatures... The world in peril from unseen foes... The death... The darkness! Instead, they jeered and threw me into this forsaken place – a place of empty souls and fevered thoughts, reeking of foetor and decay, thinking me mad with delirium! The fools cast away their hopes of salvation, by locking me in this damned asylum!

May the rats eat your eyes! I am now lost to your cause ! The darkness comes! It will damn us all!
I. WANT. ED. BACK. HD or Virtual Console.
 

kizmah

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Every time Eternal Darkness pops up in a thread title my heart skips a beat. Please Nintendo, just straight up remake/reimagine the original. It's sooo good, but it's technically sooo flawed and uneven. In right hands (Retro) this could turn into a masterpiece, and be like an entirely new title for most gamers.
 

Neiteio

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Eternal Darkness is amazing. Played through all three paths for the true ending, which then blew my mind with the way everything came together. :-O