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Nintendo of America is lost without Cammie Dunaway

Htown

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People hated her at E3, I guess, but the numbers don't lie.

She was NoA's executive vp of sales and marketing from October 2007 to October 2010.

When were Nintendo's products most popular in the North American market?

Exactly.

When did things start falling apart?

Exactly.

Prove me wrong.
 

TheSeks

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So, Reggie was Cammie's sockpuppet then?
 

Wynnebeck

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People hated her at E3, I guess, but the numbers don't lie.

She was NoA's executive vp of sales and marketing from October 2007 to October 2010.

When were Nintendo's products most popular in the North American market?

Exactly.

When did things start falling apart?

Exactly.

Prove me wrong.

The year her kids didn't go on the ski trip.
 

Mileena

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I don't think she had anything to do with people getting tired of the motion fad and Nintendo not making Wii games after 2010
 

Zombie James

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This rock keeps away tigers.

 

JordanN

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People hated her at E3, I guess, but the numbers don't lie.

She was NoA's executive vp of sales and marketing from October 2007 to October 2010.

When were Nintendo's products most popular in the North American market?

Exactly.

When did things start falling apart?

Exactly.

Prove me wrong.
That's a textbook example of correlation does not imply causation.
 
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The reason NOA was doing so well at the time when Cammy was there was because President Bush and his republican buddies deregulated the banking (and other industries) making access to money and loans ridicolusly easy. They also kept interest rates down to get people to buy overpriced houses and made americans feel rich. These combined made people feel like they had money to burn so families had 200+ dollars to throw away for a stupid game system with waggle controls for their kids or to "exercise" or "keep up with the jonses" or whatever

In 2008 the economy collapsed and the happy (fraud) days of unlimited disposable income were over
 

Terrell

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I don't think she had anything to do with people getting tired of the motion fad and Nintendo not making Wii games after 2010

No, but her absence did have a lot to do with how Nintendo handled marketing the Wii and the few games that DID get released.

No one was steering that ship, and given what it's current trajectory was, it unsurprisingly hit an iceberg.

Besides, it's not like Scott Moffitt is doing a better job.
 

linkboy

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No, they're lost without Howard Lincoln because,

A) He would stand up to Reggie and probably fire him for being totally useless.

B) He wouldn't let the Wii U suffer like it is, he'd do something to try to fix it (instead of sitting on his ass with his hands in his ear like Reggie is).
 

AniHawk

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I don't think she had anything to do with people getting tired of the motion fad and Nintendo not making Wii games after 2010

motion fad? motion controls are what made xbox 360 sales explode from 2010-2012. upcoming sony and microsoft consoles will have motion controls out of the box. they're part of console gaming now.
 

Whiskeymatt

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No, they're lost without Howard Lincoln because,

A) He would stand up to Reggie and probably fire him for being totally useless.

B) He wouldn't let the Wii U suffer like it is, he'd do something to try to fix it (instead of sitting on his ass with his hands in his ear like Reggie is).

Counterpoint: the Seattle Mariners

Howard Lincoln is actually a pretty great owner who is more than willing to spend money when it's the appropriate time to do so
 

Vamphuntr

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People hated her at E3, I guess, but the numbers don't lie.

She was NoA's executive vp of sales and marketing from October 2007 to October 2010.

When were Nintendo's products most popular in the North American market?

Exactly.

When did things start falling apart?

Exactly.

Prove me wrong.

So your points are :

1) Nintendo's product were really popular in 2007-2010
2) Cannie Dunaway was executive VP of sales and mareketing at Nintendo in 2007-2010
3) Thus, Cannie Dunaway is the only one and the only factor responsible for the success of Nintendo in 2007-2010

hmmm reminds me of something...
 

Oddduck

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Howard Lincoln gave Nintendo fans Rareware and Retro Studios.

Therefore Lincoln > Reggie
 

Screamapillar

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People hated her at E3, I guess, but the numbers don't lie.

She was NoA's executive vp of sales and marketing from October 2007 to October 2010.

When were Nintendo's products most popular in the North American market?

Exactly.

When did things start falling apart?

Exactly.

Prove me wrong.

Cammie joined in October 2007... DS Lite launched in May 2006, sales of that device exploded as soon as it went on sale. Wii launched in November 2006, sales of that device exploded as soon as it went on sale. So what exactly are you proving, that Cammie happened to be there during the honeymoon period? Because that's about all that happened. Your point about her being the reason behind the success means nothing. DS and Wii were explosive in Japan and Europe, just as in North America, and Cammie had absolutely no involvement in the European or Japanese market.
 

Screamapillar

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The reason NOA was doing so well at the time when Cammy was there was because President Bush and his republican buddies deregulated the banking (and other industries) making access to money and loans ridicolusly easy. They also kept interest rates down to get people to buy overpriced houses and made americans feel rich. These combined made people feel like they had money to burn so families had 200+ dollars to throw away for a stupid game system with waggle controls for their kids or to "exercise" or "keep up with the jonses" or whatever

In 2008 the economy collapsed and the happy (fraud) days of unlimited disposable income were over

The most useless and factually incorrect post I've ever read on a forum.
 

jay

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The reason NOA was doing so well at the time when Cammy was there was because President Bush and his republican buddies deregulated the banking (and other industries) making access to money and loans ridicolusly easy. They also kept interest rates down to get people to buy overpriced houses and made americans feel rich. These combined made people feel like they had money to burn so families had 200+ dollars to throw away for a stupid game system with waggle controls for their kids or to "exercise" or "keep up with the jonses" or whatever

In 2008 the economy collapsed and the happy (fraud) days of unlimited disposable income were over

Waggle is a Republican plot to disenfranchise black voters.
 

Artemisia

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Is this a cammie appreciation topic?

Awesome. I was planning on making one to spread the love for cammie.

Face it. Nintendo has never had a more barren e3 lineup while still having the best conference. Cammie's power. Who else?
 

Kai Dracon

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When she left Nintendo, Cammie Dunaway took forty prototype Wii U games. She took 40 games. That's as many games as Reggie as ever approved.
And that's terrible.
 

Goldmund

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The most useless and factually incorrect post I've ever read on a forum.
The reason NOA was doing so well at the time when Cammy was there was because there was this thing because of which it was Cammy at the time NOA was doing what at the time when Cammy was there was the reason because of which it was Cammy at the time doing so well because there was this thing.
 

Stumpokapow

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Before continuing the discussion, it might be useful for posters to suggest what they think Cammie Dunaway's position entailed on a short-, medium-, and long-term basis.
 

serplux

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When she left Nintendo, Cammie Dunaway took forty prototype Wii U games. She took 40 games. That's as many games as Reggie as ever approved.
And that's terrible.

Dude, she's like the richest woman in Redmond. Can't she just buy some prototypes?
 

Starphoenix

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Cammie joined in October 2007... DS Lite launched in May 2006, sales of that device exploded as soon as it went on sale. Wii launched in November 2006, sales of that device exploded as soon as it went on sale. So what exactly are you proving, that Cammie happened to be there during the honeymoon period? Because that's about all that happened. Your point about her being the reason behind the success means nothing. DS and Wii were explosive in Japan and Europe, just as in North America, and Cammie had absolutely no involvement in the European or Japanese market.

Well. This is a very holistic post.