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Nintendo officially announces DSi (Downloadable DS Ware/Camera/Browser)
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Metaphoreus
This is semantics, and nothing more
Xavien said:
I think I prefer the flat look over the glossy look of the DS Lites, but only because the glossy finish has been all I've been exposed to for the last few years. Does anyone know what that small dot is next to the external camera, though?
Little Green Yoda
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Ten-Song said:
I must be the only person in the world who likes the glossy tops. D:
creamsugar
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wow. Looks like shit compared to the lite. Not noticably smaller/thinner. Screens not noticably bigger.
audio player looks like that crappy one they released on GBA ages ago. Web browser looks like the crappy opera they had before. Doesn't sound like the specs of the machine have changed so it'll still be crappy slow at browsing probably.
camera is shit, but maybe enough to capture images for games. which of course you won't be able to use online with friends because of Nintendo's morbid fear of irresponsible use.
No external screen or controls for changing the music (maybe they'll support some kind of headphone remote?). finish just looks worse than the DS lite (nasty hinges, flat finish)
DS ware might be intersesting if there is a wifi app store equivalent - not if you have to download on PC or wii and transfer.
audio player looks like that crappy one they released on GBA ages ago. Web browser looks like the crappy opera they had before. Doesn't sound like the specs of the machine have changed so it'll still be crappy slow at browsing probably.
camera is shit, but maybe enough to capture images for games. which of course you won't be able to use online with friends because of Nintendo's morbid fear of irresponsible use.
No external screen or controls for changing the music (maybe they'll support some kind of headphone remote?). finish just looks worse than the DS lite (nasty hinges, flat finish)
DS ware might be intersesting if there is a wifi app store equivalent - not if you have to download on PC or wii and transfer.
JoshuaJSlone
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So if the GBA hardware is still in there, I wonder how long it will take for someone to try a hardware mod to add the port back in. Something that seems much more feasible than early hoaxes that had DS playing GBC games.
DefectiveReject
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mrklaw said:
(neutral) mrklaw
MrArseFace
(Today, 09:57 AM)
works for me, doesn't for you..... OH NOES!!
the VC store makes it difficult to import. I'm assuming they'll lock access based on the machine, much like the wii. So if you import a Japanese one you'll only get the Japanese VC store. Unless they really take account of the 'portability' part and make it region free like the rest of the DS.
Crayon Shinchan
Aquafina Fanboy
The piracy potential!
It's OVER 9000!
It's OVER 9000!
JoshuaJSlone
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Isn't part of the reason it's that way for portables because you might be in a different place and buy the physical carts/cards? Not an issue for an online service; if you're near a place where you can connect to the Internet, you should be able to connect to your regional store.mrklaw said:
farnham said:
ok, I was in 'be harsh' mode
I really meant 'ancient and lazy port of that old audio player'. And if its true there is no mp3, I'm guessing due to licensing reasons and Nintendo being a right tight arse.
DefensiveReject - you really think this is a compelling new offer? the download store is the only thing that'll sell it to me. Luckily I think I'll have to wait for it to come out in the UK if Nintendo lock you to the machine's region, which will give me some time to see how successful/compelling the download store is.
JoshuaJSlone said:
yes, although the way they manufacture the DSes might mean they can't region lock you - it might not have any region info in the machine and they might not bother adding it. but enough of a concern for me to at least wait and see. And usually I jump on these things pretty quickly (and my DS lite buttons are wearing out so I need a new one in the next few months anyway - seems I go through one a year...)
Graphics Horse
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Are there two cameras? I need to read more.
SD slot is nice if it's put to good use.
I never bought a DS Lite and now my phat has lost a hinge after one too many accidents.
Which ones? And don't say pokemon.
SD slot is nice if it's put to good use.
I never bought a DS Lite and now my phat has lost a hinge after one too many accidents.
Neo Child said:
Which ones? And don't say pokemon.
So basicly, DSi is the equivalent of GBC. Is that a fair comparison ?
DSi will play all DS games (no GBA games) and have new games of its own that cannot be played on DS or DSL. Yet, DSi is not the next-gen DS2 that's expected by gamers and the industry sometime around 2010 or later (but hasn't been announced).
I'm in an interesting position. I own the original fat DS, bought one in early 2006 for $129 when they were offering a free game (Advance Wars: Dual Strike), so I never got a DSL.
Maybe I'll go for a DSi since I wanted a DSL. Now with DSi I'll have the option of playing whatever new DSi-only games get made.
DSi will play all DS games (no GBA games) and have new games of its own that cannot be played on DS or DSL. Yet, DSi is not the next-gen DS2 that's expected by gamers and the industry sometime around 2010 or later (but hasn't been announced).
I'm in an interesting position. I own the original fat DS, bought one in early 2006 for $129 when they were offering a free game (Advance Wars: Dual Strike), so I never got a DSL.
Maybe I'll go for a DSi since I wanted a DSL. Now with DSi I'll have the option of playing whatever new DSi-only games get made.
EmCeeGramr
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Its like they did everything the successor to the ds needed except increase the specs.
The new hardware and os sounds exciting, but Id rather wait another 2 years for better cameras and additional horsepower. The least the dsi could do is provide texture filtering.
edit: how do they plan on offering a competent browser without additional RAM?
The new hardware and os sounds exciting, but Id rather wait another 2 years for better cameras and additional horsepower. The least the dsi could do is provide texture filtering.
edit: how do they plan on offering a competent browser without additional RAM?
Companion Cube
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I'm glad that they added the camera now, on the DS rather than the successor. With all of those methods of user input in one portable machine, it'll take developers some time to find out what works and what doesn't in terms of critical/commercial success.
Being a DS, even if nobody makes great use of the camera, we would still have plenty of other 'traditional DS' games still being made. Hopefully we won't be stuck with them spending over a year trying to figure these things out. (I'm looking at you, western DS/Wii devs.)
Being a DS, even if nobody makes great use of the camera, we would still have plenty of other 'traditional DS' games still being made. Hopefully we won't be stuck with them spending over a year trying to figure these things out. (I'm looking at you, western DS/Wii devs.)
Ninja Kn1ght
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The shoulder buttons are pretty ugly but other than that it looks good.
Wrestlemania
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Did people get this upset about the two PSP revisions we've seen in the last year?Vaandaviii said:
Wrestlemania
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And a power button which isn't exposed, meaning no more accidentally turning it off while it's in sleep mode.Masklinn said:
Graphics Horse
Member
mrklaw said:
It'll be 640 x 480, which is plenty for the ds, or even Wii! Shit for serious photography though, but so was the gameboy camera.
Masklinn said:
I wish they'd bring back the volume wheel.
Dabookerman
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Billions of dollars in R&D
They should make N64 games, SNES games and so forth downloadable on it. That would make it the best handheld machine ever.
They should make N64 games, SNES games and so forth downloadable on it. That would make it the best handheld machine ever.
Diablohead
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Looks like shit when closed with those ugly corners but the black DSi looks nice when open, i'll probably import a black one for PS0 will still end up cheaper then waiting for march in the UK and paying £129 or something inflated.
will still end up cheaper then waiting for march in the UK and paying £129 or something inflated.Dabookerman
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Same way PS1 games can be played on the PSP and same way Mario 64 can be played on the DS.Ten-Song said:
Does it come with english language option?
I dunno about this. I was expecting something.. more. At least a sort of cosmetic refresh of some kind, but it looks virtually identical to the Lite.
The sticking point is this Downloadable games part. Does this now mean my old DS simply wont be able to ever obtain these titles and play them? Because thats pretty shitty of Nintendo if so.
The sticking point is this Downloadable games part. Does this now mean my old DS simply wont be able to ever obtain these titles and play them? Because thats pretty shitty of Nintendo if so.
Dabookerman
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Ten-Song said:
Ok good bye then.
Of course, I was also referring to the BRILLIANT PS1 emulation of the PSP with it's Mappable!!! Buttons <------
abstract alien
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I find this peculiar as well. I mean, its just a clean slate...never would have guessed that.antispin said:
EmCeeGramr
Member
dabookerman said:
Mario64 was a rebuilt version of the game. It wasnt a port, but a remake. Realistically any vc like service for ds would only allow emulation maxing out at the 16 bit consoles. I suspect the only offerings will be gb, gbc, game gear, neo geo pocket, etc.
lowrider007
Licorice-flavoured booze?
They need to emboss the lid with some kind of design or logo, it's just too plain/flat, the black one when closed looks like a personal organiser/PDA rather than a hand-held games machine, it looks too formal if you get what I mean.