The Switch 2 seems so successful that I can see them putting it aside earlier. But at the same time, Nintendo said that they understand that some people still can't make the jump to the new gen so they want to support those who are still stuck with it. Let's remember that Nintendo wanted to keep the 3DS alive for more time, but the public moved to the Switch so fast that they had to kill it.
2d mario is one Nintendo biggest gaming franchises and it didnt even out sell some Sony exlusives like god of war and spiderman 2018 which are above 20 million. Think about this Mario party and is outselling 2d Mario. 17 million for a 2d Mario is one of the lowest just check sales history
No, no, no...please keep engaging. The little feller is providing big laughs!
These seem like paper tigers. Let's look at it like Sony and Nintendo are playing a game of Texas Hold'em. In Sony's hand, they have The Last of Us, Uncharted...and Knack. Nintendo has Zelda, Mario, and Animal Crossing. A couple of solid river cards have already been thrown for both sides in Resident Evil: Requiem, and Pragmata. If the next card on the flop is GTA VI...then Sony should probably fold, but they won't. They'll announce the specs for their own hybrid device, launching in 2028.
I never said its lowest selling 2d Mario games but if you look what franchises like zelda, and 3d mario for example did on switch its wasn't a massive success on those levels. I said it didn't light up the charts and when you look at Nintendo biggest sellers it didn't.
Just curios how many 2d mario mainline games are behind it? from what i can see not many.>>
Report the troll instead of engaging with it. This won't be the first time or last time he's banned.
You are funny.
Are you gonna go in every thread complaining about me like im talking to about your mom or something? It's just video games grow some thicker skin.
Maybe you should stick to threads that interest you, rather than ones you care nothing about, other than shit on anything Nintendo. We are going to report your shit now. You've worn out your welcome.
Its gaming forum? What did i say that was offensive? 3d Mario was never a huge 20-30 million seller till mario Odyssey so i think its not gonna be massive system seller just a opinion and the other was 40- 60fps variable fps with out vrr is terrible and you're begging mods to ban me like im talking about your mom lmao. Weirdo
Nintendo stock also tanked 11% after ER its not looking good. Must a really slow in sales to have a clearance on a switch 2 at Sam's just insane.I dont know guys seems like a BOMBA to me.
I don't think changing the narrative again to now comparing software sales is a good idea.
Then why not give the figure when production ended, plus the Sony fanboys always seem to have this whole argument around shipped vs sold, obviously when it suits their arguments. But this figure was units produced, so very vauge in terms of what the actual sold figure was. And the timing of the figures release so many years later is laughable. Clearly the Switch closing in on the original figure played a part.
Perhaps Nintendo should did into their archives and find out how many DS consoles they actually produced lol... Anybody with an ounce of sense know what Sony are doing with the produced PS2 number released many years later...
Not mad in the slightest. I find it very sad a company like Sony has to resort to such obviously sketchy tactics to keep their console on the top of the pile. The fact it's a number of produced consoles, then revealed many years later tells you everything you need to know. It's only the Sony fanboys that fail or more likely refuse to see this for what this clearly is.
The fact you did not suspect this in the slightest makes me worry. But I am pretty sure you are well aware.
DIdnt last longEspecially to shareholders
While I agree with you, you need to remember this was 2013, where people were about to buy a PS4 and the PS3 was pretty cheap. So the "full year" of PS2 sales in 2013 wouldn't be that high. And they did a lot of creative accounting back then, disclosing production numbers first before switching to shipping numbers, and then gathering PS2 and PS3 sales to hide the bad PS3 sales early on. And production figure doesn't necesseraly means shipped units (as they certainly not shipped that last unit displayed in the museum).
Exactly
PlayStation 2 Hardware Unit Sales (Unit Million)
FY Apr-Jun Jul-Sep Oct-Dec Jan-Mar FY LTD
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FY 1999/00 - - - 1.4 1.4 1.4
FY 2000/01 1.1 1.0 2.9 4.2 9.2 10.6
FY 2001/02 4.3 4.6 5.4 3.7 18.1 28.7
FY 2002/03 4.6 8.3 8.0 1.6 22.5 51.2
FY 2003/04 2.7 8.8 6.8 1.8 20.1 71.3
FY 2004/05 0.7 2.0 7.4 6.1 16.2 87.5
FY 2005/06 3.5 5.0 5.4 2.3 16.2 103.7
FY 2006/07 2.3 3.4 6.7 2.4 14.7 115.6
FY 2007/08 2.7 3.3 5.4 2.4 13.7 129.3
FY 2008/09 1.5 2.5 2.5 1.4 7.9 137.2
FY 2009/10 1.6 1.9 2.1 1.7 7.3 144.5
FY 2010/11 1.6 1.5 2.1 1.2 6.4 150.9
FY 2011/12 1.4 1.2 0.9 0.6 4.1 155.1
FY 2012/13 5.0 160.0
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FY 2012/13 2.8 3.5 6.8 3.4 16.5 (PS2+PS3)
sonyinteractive.com
www.playstation.com
"*Sales data on PlayStation Vita are not disclosed". That's the kind of company we're dealing with.Business Data & Sales
View PlayStation sales data, revenue insights, and key business metrics from Sony Interactive Entertainment.
SONY has always done this for its consoles at the end, so why would you think they would lie about it
Dude, the Switch is literally 5 million units away — it's going to pass the PS2. At this point it's almost guaranteed.
Come on now.
Their exact wording was over 160m manufactured. And that's true. And those consoles DID end up in players hands. But like I said, that doesn't pass the sniff test; they're folding console replacement hardware in with shipped/sold and that's obvious. And there's nothing wrong with that in my opinion.SONY has always done this for its consoles at the end, so why would you think they would lie about it
Does it hurt you that much that the PS2 sold 160 million units?
Good one. But doesn't have quite the same impact as explicitly saying they're not disclosing the sales data. I see WiiU on there which was more of a flop than Vita, whereas VB was an aside rather than a mainline console/handheld.
The Virtual Boy was a system in its own right, just like other Nintendo consoles. At least, that's how Nintendo saw it, but strangely enough, there are no sales figures for it on their website, just like Sony did with the Vita there is no difference between the two manufacturer.
I've never reflected on this. Pretty interesting that it's absent.IR Information : Sales Data - Dedicated Video Game Sales Units
www.nintendo.co.jp
whers is the virtual boy sales data ?
Dragging Virtual Boy into a sales obfuscation argument is literally the definition of grasping at straws to try to make a point. VB wasn't one of Nintendo's main handhelds or consoles which were still very active and highly supported when they introduced the Virtual Boy. The VB was just something completely separate and that's partially why it failed. It had no market. Nintendo already had a handheld and home console and the VB was just unnecessary.The Virtual Boy was a system in its own right, just like other Nintendo consoles. At least, that's how Nintendo saw it, but strangely enough, there are no sales figures for it on their website, just like Sony did with the Vita there is no difference between the two manufacturer.
As you can see for Nintendo the virtual boy is a "32-bit portable system" or "home 3-D video game system".
Honestly, I don't really care too much. Nintendo does what it wants and doesn't have to answer to anyone.
At least Sony has some form of mention of Vita on their page though. I can't find any mention of why VB would be absent.
Bro why do you say weird shit like this? No one gets "mad" about this stuff. It's just online banter and back and forth. Also, why would it make me mad? I've owned every PlayStation hardware ever made with exception to PSVR2 and PS5 Pro. Shit, I owned three PS2s.
I don't care whether you had a PS2 or not, you're clearly implying that they lied, so why does the 160 million announced by Sony make you angry?Bro why do you say weird shit like this? No one gets "mad" about this stuff. It's just online banter and back and forth. Also, why would it make me mad? I've owned every PlayStation hardware ever made with exception to PSVR2 and PS5 Pro. Shit, I owned three PS2s.
Maybe you're.... projecting?!?
3DS ceased production in 2020, three years after Switch released. So it stands to reason Switch 1 will remain in production for at least two more years. Nintendo will have manufactured well over 160m by then. It's just obvious.
It's fucking 2026 and you're accusing people of damage controlling the fucking VB sales numbers of all things. That's some of the saddest shit I've read on this forum.
Because everything about this shit is suspect. If they said 160 million in 2013 no one would've had a problem with it. But saying it 12 years later and only when they were about to be passed by the Switch is questionable behavior to say the least.
Shawn Layden, several years after leaving Sony, confirmed that the final number of PS2's was 160,636,855.
We prefer 'revisionists'.
