Mozza
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I knew it..............lol
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Nintendo Q3 FY 2025 earnings: Switch 2 17.37M, Switch 155.37M, and more
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Mozza
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Incoming............. The Vita actually sold more then the DS lol...
Emmy Ator Best
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Alright but then Sony for some reason went out of their way to present their real data in the fakest way possible. Their choice but don't get offended if people don't believe you.
Mozza
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Touchy subject obviously.
jm89
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Nothing fake about the way the presented it. You just didn't like it.
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Emmy Ator Best
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Nothing? Usually companies don't wait 12 years to say how much they sold
LordOcidax
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The theory was that Sony was presenting the PS2 sales data as PS3 data on their financial reports at time, to hide the poor sales performance of PS3… PS3+PS2= PS3 on the report, so, we didn't had any methods to know the real PS2 sales data by that time or any official information… The issue here is that they never subtracted the PS2 sales for the PS3 total sales at the end…and the PS3 end up selling more than the 360… The reality is that something is really fishy in all this.
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Mozza
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Please stop and seek some help..
Mozza
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You are allowed to question many things on here, but not the revised PS2 total lol...
jm89
Member
Nah nothing fake about that, you just didn't like the number hence it became suspicous.
You even have shawn layden confirming the number who doesn't even work for sony anymore. But i'm sure you'll find some conspiracy with shawn soon
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kazuyamishima
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The Sony report is in a few hours, that will be a fun thread to watch.
Mownoc
Member
This is not the case at all. The PS2 selling 160m absolutely lines up with PS3 figures and other figures Sony have given in the past. We can even get the number for Vita sales which they don't disclose.
PS Sales as of August 9th 2018:
PS1 - 102.5m
PS2 - 160.6m
PS3 - 87.4m
PS4 - 81.2m
PSP - 82.5m
Vita - 11.1m
Total - 525.3m
They announced 525.3m of all systems combined, and 81.2m PS4's on August 9th 2018: https://sonyinteractive.com/en/pres...playstation4-pro-500-million-limited-edition/
Using the final sales totals we have for all previous consoles we can get the final breakdown above.
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Baemono
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Nah that's conspiracy theory.
LordOcidax
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We don't have a financial report from the PS3 era with PS2 and PS3 separate sales data, you can check by yourself… At least the latest.
Baemono
Gold Member
I know, I even said it before you in this very thread
But it doesn't mean we still don't know the exact PS3 figures.
GoldenEye98
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Japan made up 25% of Switch 1 sales yet for Switch 2 in Q3 it outsold every other region with 35% of sales. The trend for Switch 2 is different.
It makes sense when you realize that Switch 2 sells for $340USD in Japan and $450USD+ everywhere else...
Topher
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This is false. The PS2 and PS3 numbers were combined. PS2 sales were never presented as PS3 sales. It was presented as the combined numbers of PlayStation sales as a whole. Falsely presenting PS2 as PS3 numbers to stock holders would be illegal.
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Topher
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"On here" the PS2 total is questioned regularly with every new Nintendo financial thread.
Emmy Ator Best
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Again? How many times do I need to explain you that the Switch 2 costs 50k yen and there's no way to take advantage of the exchange rate?
LordOcidax
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Agree with you, it was presented as PS, not PS3, but they did that to hide the PS3 issue by that time. Sony numbers weren't clear at all in terms of sales to differentiate the PS2 data and the PS3 data, and obviously was on purpose. And before the 160M PS2 sold we had another update that put the PS2 over the DS… I remember that pretty clearly. But back on topic of the thread.
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Topher
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They were definitely trying to hide the PS3 poor sales, but they eventually went back to reporting them individually. It's a footnote in PS history, but irrelevant today.
The PS2 155m sold was announced in 2012. DS 154m was announced in 2016.
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Tiago Rodrigues
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Imagine if somehow PS5 sold over 7M consoles during last quarter. This forum won't be able to handle that.
LordOcidax
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It was not that simple, if it was like that them we knew the exact numbers of PS2 sold by that time… They started giving the PS3 numbers again based in the total of PS systems that they were reporting before without any clarification. There comes the issue for me. Also, did you have any source that the last update of DS was on 2016?… That's basically a year before the Switch launched and years into the 3DS.
LordOcidax
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And probably above Switch 2, i expect that. If the PS5 end up selling more than the Switch 2 in 2025 that's another story.
Topher
Identifies as young
We did know the exact number sold when Sony reported the numbers separately again and not combined. The separated PS3 numbers were based on PS3 sold. The separated PS2 numbers were based on the PS2 sold. This is a non-issue.
I got the DS sales updates from wikipedia which has every reported number cited:
Nintendo DS sales - Wikipedia
Robb
Gold Member
They must've sold more than 7M, they've been outperforming every quarter so far compared to FY2024, and iirc they managed upwards of to 10M(!) in Q3 2024.
I'm expecting an impressive showing.
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LordOcidax
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There's no way to know that, because they never clarified that…Thats the issue. A nintendo give updates on sales numbers in every financial. The DS didn't reach 154M in 2016.We did know the exact number sold when Sony reported the numbers separately again and not combined. The separated PS3 numbers were based on PS3 sold. The separated PS2 numbers were based on the PS2 sold. This is a non-issue.
I got the DS sales updates from wikipedia which has every reported number cited:
Nintendo DS sales - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
yep but the last ~25mn sold into ASia somewhere excluding Japan after the PS3 launched.Exactly
Code:PlayStation 2 Hardware Unit Sales (Unit Million) FY Apr-Jun Jul-Sep Oct-Dec Jan-Mar FY LTD _____________________________________________________________________ FY 1999/00 - - - 1.4 1.4 1.4 FY 2000/01 1.1 1.0 2.9 4.2 9.2 10.6 FY 2001/02 4.3 4.6 5.4 3.7 18.1 28.7 FY 2002/03 4.6 8.3 8.0 1.6 22.5 51.2 FY 2003/04 2.7 8.8 6.8 1.8 20.1 71.3 FY 2004/05 0.7 2.0 7.4 6.1 16.2 87.5 FY 2005/06 3.5 5.0 5.4 2.3 16.2 103.7 FY 2006/07 2.3 3.4 6.7 2.4 14.7 115.6 FY 2007/08 2.7 3.3 5.4 2.4 13.7 129.3 FY 2008/09 1.5 2.5 2.5 1.4 7.9 137.2 FY 2009/10 1.6 1.9 2.1 1.7 7.3 144.5 FY 2010/11 1.6 1.5 2.1 1.2 6.4 150.9 FY 2011/12 1.4 1.2 0.9 0.6 4.1 155.1 FY 2012/13 5.0 160.0 _____________________________________________________________________ FY 2012/13 2.8 3.5 6.8 3.4 16.5 (PS2+PS3)
More than 160,000,000 units sold worldwide since 2000
160,636,885 units poroduced
Business Data & Sales
View PlayStation sales data, revenue insights, and key business metrics from Sony Interactive Entertainment.sonyinteractive.com
2000 PlayStation 2 - PSP PlayStation Portable | PlayStation History timeline
The 30 years of PlayStation timeline continues with the launch of PlayStation 2, and later with PSP PlayStation Portable.www.playstation.com
Topher
Identifies as young
Clarify what? Those numbers are distinct. PS2 sold is PS2 sold. PS3 sold is PS3 sold. Misrepresenting those numbers would be highly illegal. You are trying to create an issue where there is none.
When then?
LordOcidax
Member
2014
Topher
Identifies as young
Ok. So they kept counting sales up until 2016 which added another 100k. Fair enough.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
It was 9.5 last year and it was their oeak quarter i think? Maybe im wrong lol.
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Robb
Gold Member
Seems to be the holiday quarter. Only found the Q1 table for now, but they did 3.9M in Q2 iirc.
I'd expect less than 9.5M of course, but more than 7M seems very likely imo.
Felessan
Member
Unlikely unless Europe did some very heavy lifting
US did ~1 mio less in Nov-Dec'25 compared to 24
I would expect quarter sales 7-8mio for PS
Robb
Gold Member
It's subjective I guess but I think 8M would be impressive.
Isn't their target something like 15M for the FY? If they manage 8M they're basically there already.
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Zacfoldor
Gold Member
Has another console ever hit this number this fast?
I asked gemini:
"Yes, as of early 2026, the Nintendo Switch 2 is considered the fastest-selling video game console in history. It achieved this by selling over 17 million units in just under nine months, significantly outpacing the launch trajectory of the original Switch, PlayStation 4, and PlayStation 5. "
Is that true? If so, fuck mate, this is the fastest selling console of all time year 1?
I asked gemini:
"Yes, as of early 2026, the Nintendo Switch 2 is considered the fastest-selling video game console in history. It achieved this by selling over 17 million units in just under nine months, significantly outpacing the launch trajectory of the original Switch, PlayStation 4, and PlayStation 5. "
Is that true? If so, fuck mate, this is the fastest selling console of all time year 1?
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J Required
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Seems to be the holiday quarter. Only found the Q1 table for now, but they did 3.9M in Q2 iirc.
I'd expect less than 9.5M of course, but more than 7M seems very likely imo.
Its very unlikely due to US numbers, I expect around 5.6m myself.
Robb
Gold Member
Oh wow, maybe I'm too optimistic.
TheGodfather07
Member
Not when it's from Sony itself you don't. We're not debating vgchartz or alinea analytics. I'm not sure what the issue is here?? Anyway no point discussing it because it's official. Going all conspiracy about it won't change that.
S0ULZB0URNE
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Which region sold the most SW2 's?
LordOcidax
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Official like mixing PS3 and PS2 sales in the PS3 era… Blame Sony for make some people doubt.
LordOcidax
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Americas
TheGodfather07
Member
It doesn't surprise me that PS2 managed another 5m in it's final year. That thing was a monster that just wouldn't stop selling. Still the only system that felt legit mainstream to me. It seemed like everyone owned one.
TheGodfather07
Member
Well you know now, so whats the problem? PS2 total is 160m. PS3 was 88m.
LordOcidax
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J Required
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Im taking into consideration the economic factors at play, people are simple cash deprived all over the world. Also PS5 has been performing badly in Japan, Europe and RotW cannot pick up the reduced NA/JP sales or get close to the impressive 9.5m figure of last year.
I hope I can be wrong though and Sony might achieve better performance, but in general I expect it less or around Switch's 7m figure.
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J Required
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That would actually be great — and honestly proof that Sony's strategy is a lot more robust and clever than people give them credit for. If they've managed to break into the Chinese market in any meaningful way, that's a huge strategic win, not some fluke.