jufonuk
not tag worthy
PS4 Pro and Xbox One X didn't kill anything either.
Yeah but I am sure it was talked up before release, not release Nintendo style...
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Pro , please be excite
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Nintendo Switch Lite announced
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Yeah but I am sure it was talked up before release, not release Nintendo style...
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Pro , please be excite
TLZ
Banned
They have to make it kid friendly. They'll drop it a lot and gotta make sure it doesn't crack easily.so same performance smaller screen 5.5' with same 720p . and why screen is not larger size as that border around screen ? why that border even needed ?
Fake
Member
Yes. Nintendo claim BOTW will be 1 hour more longer in mobile vs original NS.
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waylo
Banned
Considering the form factor was one of the main reasons I sold my Switch (I've got really big hands and holding that thing for extended periods was very uncomfortable), this looks to be more or less the exact same thing just shrunk down which is disappointing. Also, I thought the analog sticks on the Joycons were trash, and these seem to be the same ones.
That's a pass for me.
That's a pass for me.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
A bigger battery makes it a hardware revision? I guess.
Huevos de Oro
Member
Fuck Zelda. All I care about from this asshole company is Animal Crossing.
Fake
Member
Yes and no. Bigger battery don't reflect additional 1 hour.
New battery plus some new chipset at the reduce size can do that longer.
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Fake
Member
Its just a comparison. Nintendo is right about using Zelda because he just act like a battery benchmark for the system.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
How does the Ps Vita original and the 2000 differ in battery life then? OLED screen aside?
Aintitcool
Banned
Why does it look like they wanted to fit a bigger screen but couldn't so they left it outlined like that.
DunDunDunpachi
Patient MembeR
$200 price point is legit. They can now retire the 3DS and start pushing toward that magic $150...
waylo
Banned
But what if they run like shit? You'd just rather deal with horrible framerates than have the option to play them on more powerful hardware?
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
You're getting hung up on the name. Think for a second, about the business, not the consumer dream world - why would anyone ever buy the original again when they could get a Switch Lite, with better hardware, TV connection, and an official Pro Controller for $30 less than the original model? Nintendo aren't that stupid. They're not about to utterly invalidate their base model system. This model is for the people who just wanted a new handheld and don't care about the switching.
Fake
Member
Yes. Some tricks here and there. Fabrication size, different screen, lcd vs led vs oled, new battery, etc...
All this at the same time can indeed get this level of battery, not just 'replacing new battery'.
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This is up there with the discless Xbox One S.
You're losing features and gaining what? It doesn't even look that much smaller than the standard Switch.
What's the draw here apart from the price?
It isn't even capable of switching between being a handheld and a home console, yet it's called a "Switch Lite". The name suggests it can still at the very least "switch" modes.
Instead of trying to awkwardly cover both bases with the Switch, I think Nintendo would have been better off building a new handheld from the ground up.
You're losing features and gaining what? It doesn't even look that much smaller than the standard Switch.
What's the draw here apart from the price?
It isn't even capable of switching between being a handheld and a home console, yet it's called a "Switch Lite". The name suggests it can still at the very least "switch" modes.
Instead of trying to awkwardly cover both bases with the Switch, I think Nintendo would have been better off building a new handheld from the ground up.
Not having to do that is the biggest benefit of consoles though. Or at least was. I refuse to upgrade mid-gen, so if Ps5/scarlett announce a pro version at any point I'll likely trade mine in and go back to PC only. Console tax is only worth it if I'm not having to deal with the annoyances of PC, but if I'm dealing with them anyway, I'll take the option that plays all my games at 60fps after the upgrade, and doesn't stumble and run some games at worse framerates on the "improved" version.
I'd much rather the big 3 enforce rules for console games so that devs would actually have restrictions on how their games perform and work around the consoles power instead of building a game that runs at 20fps and pretending current hardware is good enough. That's incredibly unlikely though, especially from sony or MS because most general customers don't care about framerate and all that
TLZ
Banned
This will be a weird one. This version is officially a portable only device. But its sales will still be added to the Switch overall sales? And compare it to other home consoles sales? This will be so unfair imo. Even the Switch should go under portable sales, since this portable only version is confirmed to be using the same hardware, just with tv out removed. With it included everyone wanted to call it a home console, when it clearly wasn't one.
metareferential
Member
Nintendo tech. They're 10 years behind anyone else in everything. Except for game design, thank God.
It's the same old Nintendo. They're a green company, reclying tech is important.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
You know it lasts longer since the joycons aren't being "charged" anymore and the screen is smaller right?
ThatStupidLion
Member
even though i 99.9% play my switch in handheld mode, it seems like I made the right decision with the OG vs the lite.
the only thing im slightly envious of is that dpad...but i still think id rather have a larger overall console, tv out, and removable joycons, etc.
maybe the next revision i'll jump in, but this one just doesnt bring enough difference to warrant a second switch or upgrade
the only thing im slightly envious of is that dpad...but i still think id rather have a larger overall console, tv out, and removable joycons, etc.
maybe the next revision i'll jump in, but this one just doesnt bring enough difference to warrant a second switch or upgrade
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I'd rather they enforce rules for games published on their consoles. Look at sony's PSVR restrictions for example. Games literally aren't allowed to drop below 60fps. It's ridiculous to me that games like bloodborne won't be playable without stutter for around a decade, if not more after launch when emulation catches up. Games need to be built with limitations in mind, not built without them and scaled down to a functional level.
If a game can't be run on current hardware, it shouldn't be made until the hardware is there, or should be on PC.
That being said, I know it's just a personal peeve and this is never going to happen because the average person doesn't care about framerates and it would be console war suicide to give competitors free exclusives because of framerate drops.
PendekarRajawali
Member
Take that, Sony! You're too cocky to support your own poor child.
xGreir
Member
An even smaller screen without improving the hardware...?
Yeah, it has a market full of parents looking for cheap solutions for their problematic kids, but this is a huge no no in my eyes.
Why I would buy a Switch that can't Switch? I like playing on the TV with friends, and this "revision" doesn't accomplish anything...
We need to get the games to 1080p and leave it at that, improve the hardware Nintendo, for the sake of God
Yeah, it has a market full of parents looking for cheap solutions for their problematic kids, but this is a huge no no in my eyes.
Why I would buy a Switch that can't Switch? I like playing on the TV with friends, and this "revision" doesn't accomplish anything...
We need to get the games to 1080p and leave it at that, improve the hardware Nintendo, for the sake of God
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
Post giant hands with your switch for comparison.
Mista
Banned
Alright give me a minute
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Nice price, shitty colors. I'd like to get one (if it's sold for 199 or less here too) and some nice Nintendo Selects type deals but next year we might have the New Switch bumping the specs a tad and a while after that a New Switch Lite to match New 2DS. Unless they just don't go with that upgrade path this time. But I wouldn't mind not having a New version if the new specs don't significantly change functionality (like how the most demanding games played on a non-New 3DS actually disabled some OS features altogether in order to dedicate all the system's power to the game just to run it) and games perform OK enough (so devs don't use New as a crutch for shittier performance on original). I don't get why they didn't use the original Switch joycon neon and grey colors, they're so much better than these here. or the New 2DS colors, those looked pretty decent too.
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Huevos de Oro
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Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Well, I've sold my Switch at the right time cuz now and after Lite version will release this September, it'll be not that simple to sell the main model for a good price if people will only care about handheld mode, cuz now they can buy Lite version just for that and for $200. Speaking of which.... no HD rumble and IR motion camera is a huge bummer, plus I really don't like the screen and huge fat line on every side, looks cheap as hell. D-pad is a nice feature, but implementation is not perfect from an eshetic point of view - it'll get dirty in no time and it'll be huge pain in the ass to clean - N3DS XL has much better D-Pad implementation with no visable holes on the sides and so you don't need to wory about cleaning it. Overall, Lite version looks cheap (and it should be for $200) and color variation is abysmaly low - I don't like any of these colors, but I asume that bundle version will have different decals and overall look / design.
Do we know about the specs? Is it the same stuff but with some features removed and 5.5'' screen?
Do we know about the specs? Is it the same stuff but with some features removed and 5.5'' screen?
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Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
It's actually 3x as powerful (yet costs less than the other version)!
Of course it's just cut down. Hopefully only in the obvious ways and not in additional cost cutting like the 2DS mono speaker deal back then.
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Mista
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
A...are you sitting on a mushroom couch?
EightBit Man
Member
Looks way more comfortable to hold than the standard Switch, and it looks very nice. Tough done for recognition's sake, the name Switch is a bit useless at this point, as there's nothing to "switch to" with this device...
Also, less heat vents? Even though the processor may be more efficient, the standard one can get pretty hot after playing the more demanding games. With some reports of players having broken or melted heat vents, or cracks around that area, I'm dubious.
Also, less heat vents? Even though the processor may be more efficient, the standard one can get pretty hot after playing the more demanding games. With some reports of players having broken or melted heat vents, or cracks around that area, I'm dubious.
Mista
Banned
Mario themed, yes
TLZ
Banned
Of course in business world it makes sense. The Switch itself is a portable and they put a tv out because they wanted to leave behind the home console business. It wasn't making them enough money as their handhelds. So of course they were going to double down on this portable business even more. I knew it was coming and so did a lot of people. But I was still hoping they'd keep that one tv out feature in.
As for why would people get the Switch instead of the Lite, well because it has a bigger screen, separate joycons, rumble etc. They can release an XL version with a slightly bigger screen around 7" and phase this one out. People buying the Lite with tv out would want it for the smaller 5.5" screen and more portable factor, but still would like to connect to TV if they feel like.
If you ask me though, from my point of view, the Lite made the Switch redundant. If you release a portable only for people who don't care about TV, then release a home console only for people who don't care about portable and always keep their Switch docked, as the current Switch feels like it's a jack of all trades, and does justice to neither home console nor portable. But that's my point of view. And business is business, as usual.
Unfair on who, exactly?
The number of units sold is the same regardless of whether or not people call it "home" or "portable".
As if people stop playing it as soon as they step inside their house.
The only people I can see this being "unfair" to is Microsoft because Xbox can somehow be compared to Switch under the "home console" banner and Switch might end up outselling X Box One.
Nintendo and Microsoft are never going to outsell Sony this generation and I would not expect that to change in the next gen either. Shit they might not even outsell Sony combined.
So what difference does it make if the regular Switch is counted as home console sales but the Switch Lite is counted as portable?
Fake
Member
Dunno. I don't have a original NS for knowing this, but maybe. Nintendo want any help he can get.
Ma-Yuan
Member
I wanted to replace my current switch. Because the back tore appart from heat using it in the docking station . . . But this mini is a downgrade . . . So its pointless . . And I am not buying the same falwed design again.