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Nintendo Switch Pro could be possible with the new Tegra X1+

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25+% increase? Yeah, that would fit in a NEW Switch(i) and not a Switch Pro.
 
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it COULD, but they are already using it for meaty battery life and lower heat on the new models
 

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The biggest bottleneck of the X1 model isn't even the CPU or GPU, but the RAM. The Switches LPDDR4 RAM is slow and has a much lower bandwidth than the GDDR5 that the other consoles use. So unless they find a better low power RAM solution (LPDDR4X is barely any better and LPDDR5 is still in testing stages) I wouldn't consider it a "Switch Pro". More like a subtle model upgrade. Like Switch model 1.2 or something.
XboxOne uses DDR3 for main ram at 68GB/s. TX1 uses LPDDR4 at 25GB/s (64x 1600MHz, 3200MT).

The greatest bottleneck in the switch is the artificial cpu clock halving.
 
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The Switch Pro is the new Wii HD.

The current Switch already has two major modes. Seems a little overkill to create a third one, unless there are external benefits. Like the improved 3D effect of the New 3DS. Notice that they didn't add a new mode to the New 3DS, it was more powerful, but they weren't setting a new standard around it. Was simply an outside feature of the machine.

A Switch Pro makes no sense whatsoever.

Instead, they are probably working on a Switch 2, that should come in about four years or so.
 
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The Switch Pro is the new Wii HD.

The current Switch already has two major modes. Seems a little overkill to create a third one, unless there are external benefits. Like the improved 3D effect of the New 3DS. Notice that they didn't add a new mode to the New 3DS, it was more powerful, but they weren't setting a new standard around it. Was simply an outside feature of the machine.

A Switch Pro makes no sense whatsoever.

Instead, they are probably working on a Switch 2, that should come in about four years or so.
6 and a half years in the mobile space is an eternity. 2 years tops Nintendo should be coming up with a successor and keep the steam going instead of letting it die an agonizing slow death like the Wii. By 2023 even smartwatches will be more powerful than the current Switch, so to speak.
 

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6 and a half years in the mobile space is an eternity. 2 years tops Nintendo should be coming up with a successor and keep the steam going instead of letting it die an agonizing slow death like the Wii. By 2023 even smartwatches will be more powerful than the current Switch, so to speak.
With MS and SONY releasing new consoles in 2020 it wouldn’t be a bad idea for spec bump on the switch.
 

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Heck, the Switch is already underpowered right now, but then again, i don't think Nintendo cares about marketing to people who want the best graphics and all that, but people who just want a system to play games, i don't think they have even tried to be on par with other systems since the Gamecube even.
 

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I want to see a home console variant/New Switch Pro with Tegra X1 16nm, no LCD, no batteries, a hefty desktop cooler and max clocks.

What CPU/GPU clocks should we expect in that scenario? Assuming LPDDR4X will suffice of course.
 

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With MS and SONY releasing new consoles in 2020 it wouldn’t be a bad idea for spec bump on the switch.
Eh, Nintendo will be fine. I believe both Nintendo and Nvidia are working on a new Next Gen SoC for maybe the Switch 2 or whatever they're making. They'll move on from the Tegra X1 to a brand new custom Tegra chip.
 

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I think this is probably basically the same chip that Nintendo are already using in the Switch Lite and the revised Switch - except Nintendo have configured it for identical performance but better battery life.
Yup. Refresh because they probably want to stop production of the old X1 (if they haven't already) and keep selling Shield TVs.
 

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Could that mean it's not actually a "Pro" version but just an "aways Docked" version? Because it sounds like something they would do.

Always docked version. No screen, new chip, more memory bandwidth, wired connection only, no battery, bigger heat sink. No joy cons. $350. Pro-controller sold separately.
Includes pro controller, $400.

All of a sudden all compatible games get full 1080p and faster load times.


New coming games 100% compatible with all systems, but will give the perks from above when played on pro system.

Imagine getting Xenoblade Chronicles.

Use your switch lite, 720 portable. Original/New version 720 portable, up to 900p docked.

Pro version, 1080p native, some beefed up upscale algorithm for 4k tv's out there.
 
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Always docked version. No screen, new chip, more memory bandwidth, wired connection only, no battery, bigger heat sink. No joy cons. $350. Pro-controller sold separately.
Includes pro controller, $400.

All of a sudden all compatible games get full 1080p and faster load times.
Believe in your dreams, I guess.

Question: what would Nintendo gain by doing this? Market share? Switch has been the best-selling console for ten months in a row; and the most likely to unseat it, the PS5, doesn’t arrive until late 2020. More games? Hasn’t been an issue, they keep coming. More respect on gamer forums? Yeah, I suppose it’d earn Nintendo that much.
 
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That would be way to expensive , under $300 for home console with Pro controller sounds about right.
I wouldn't pay more than $250 for a docked-only Switch with Pro controller.

$400 is nuts. You can buy PS4 Pro or XB1X and they're far more powerful than Tegra X1+.
 

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what surprises me is that the switch is a little more powerfull then the wii u
and that console was pretty big ish

now we have the switch lite.
i can't believe nintendo is making something even more powerfull !

damn great
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Believe in your dreams, I guess.

Question: what would Nintendo gain by doing this? Market share? Switch has been the best-selling console for ten months in a row; and the most likely to unseat it, the PS5, doesn’t arrive until late 2020. More games? Hasn’t been an issue, they keep coming. More respect on gamer forums? Yeah, I suppose it’d earn Nintendo that much.
I kinda understand the point, but the real question is "what would Nintendo have lose?"

They have being pretty risky in terms of releasing stuff. What they gained with WiiU? Or with Labo?
 

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Every time the same shit, some minor/non relevant thing = "oooh nintendo will use it and have 4k 120fps vr super computer hybrid!?"

Don't nintendo-fanboys have any common sense and knowledge of tech?

Tegra x1 is WEAKLING, add 25% to weakling = still weak.

Also, that 25% is probably on max clocks, while switch runs on lower clocks.

X1 is so weak that even if they would double or triple the perf, it's still kind of weak.

Handheld switch is like 10% of ps4 og, and then some seriously think that +25% would make the next gen switch possible..

Switch pro needs new SoC to be anything more than a joke of an upgrade
 
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They have being pretty risky in terms of releasing stuff. What they gained with WiiU? Or with Labo?
That’s exactly right: they’re risky with their hardware. Wii U was risky, Switch was risky, Labo was risky, Ring Fit Adventure is risky. Releasing a higher-specced version of your existing product isn’t risky. It can’t earn them any significant return, because there’s so little chance of it failing.
 
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The teardowns will confirm this, but the chip on the new switch is the same there is in these newer shield tvs.

The difference is that Nintendo lowered the voltage to keep the same output but at a lower energy cost while nvidia kept the same voltage and is getting better performance.

There is no new switch pro.
 

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Pointless, won't happen. Even Wii (by far Nintendo's smallest leap over any previous generation system) had 50% more processing power than its predecessor (GameCube). They wouldn't bother for 20-25%.

The teardowns will confirm this, but the chip on the new switch is the same there is in these newer shield tvs.

The difference is that Nintendo lowered the voltage to keep the same output but at a lower energy cost while nvidia kept the same voltage and is getting better performance.

There is no new switch pro.
That makes much more sense. Though I'd add "There is no new Switch Pro... yet".
 
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Pointless, won't happen. Even Wii (by far Nintendo's smallest leap over any previous generation system) had 50% more processing power than its predecessor (GameCube). They wouldn't bother for 20-25%.



That makes much more sense. Though I'd add "There is no new Switch Pro... yet".
Yup, Nintendo would just quietly use this new chip and lower the voltage to increase battery life.
 

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Pointless, won't happen. Even Wii (by far Nintendo's smallest leap over any previous generation system) had 50% more processing power than its predecessor (GameCube). They wouldn't bother for 20-25%.



That makes much more sense. Though I'd add "There is no new Switch Pro... yet".
Yup, Nintendo would just quietly use this new chip and lower the voltage to increase battery life.
Never said a Switch Pro is coming just possible, if Nintendo wanted they could also possibly increase the base frequency of both the CPU/GPU to ”OC” the package for more performance.
Knowing Nintendo its not happening but it’s still possible.
 

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what surprises me is that the switch is a little more powerfull then the wii u
and that console was pretty big ish
If you look at the main board for the Wii U, it's mostly empty space. They could have made it a lot smaller if they had wanted to, but the desire to make it backwards compatible with the original Wii meant that it had to have a drive that could accept 12cm optical discs, which prevented it from being much smaller than it is.